Gaming Graphical Improvments on DSi

[Fraesh]

The biggest letdown for me was the Batterytime. It has less battery time as the DS, so WTF? For me the main point of a handheld is the batterytime and how long you can play it with one charge (wihout carrying accus). So id think about a buy if the batterytime would be the same as the DSLite... now the accu is smaller...

i read the batterytime is only low on full lightend display, if you set the backlight on a lower and play without sound it should be enough at least for me

 

[thedicemaster]

i believe it was tested to have about 25-30% less battery time than a lite with the same settings.
that means a DSL with no sound, no wifi, and backlight lvl1 would still last a few hours longer than a DSI with no sound, no wifi, and lvl1 backlight
(lvl1 backlight is the lowest setting of backlight that doesn't turn off the screen)

 

[zidane_genome]

guys, think about it please...
watch the grand brother of the ds, the computer!
there are computers with diffrent graphics that all play the same games, more or less good...
what about games with adjustable graphics, hm?
options -> DS/Lite - DSi
so it actually IS possible then techincal way but i dont think nintendo will do ;P

wtf u talkin about?

He's talking about something that wouldn't work at all.

Or put simply, I think he's trying to say that games should have a "DS Mode" and a "DSi mode" if the DSi were to have better graphics.

The cart would have two sets of the game on it, say one has higher resolution textures, and it would detect whether it's being run on a "DS" or a "DSi" and choose which set, low-res or high-res, of textures to use.

It wouldn't work though. The idea is just stupid.

Yea, because no other Nintendo handheld consoles did this...

Oh, wait...

Zelda Oracle's did that... it would detect if it was in a GBC or GBA and load a different palette set as well as open a new shop if on GBA...
Zelda DX had the BW/Color option... GB(M) or GBC... different palette sets as well (and a new dungeon)

There were other games to do that, just can't remember any as it's been a while since i've played them...

it's not all that hard to do... a different palette set for 2d graphics... as for FMV, just 2 different resolution videos...

 

[redviper]

The games would need two tile sets or texture sets which would result in double file size. You can't compare that to the GB/GBC thing.

Nintendo won't do that.

 

[Tormendo]

A question: Mario Kart DS will be have a Larger screen size on the DSi? That will be a bad graphic.

 

[da_head]

A question: Mario Kart DS will be have a Larger screen size on the DSi? That will be a bad graphic.

every game uses full screen. and no it won't look that bad, the screen is only SLIGHTLY larger.

 

[Fraesh]

The games would need two tile sets or texture sets which would result in double file size. You can't compare that to the GB/GBC thing.

Nintendo won't do that.

lol i wrote that nintedo wont do ^^
also, a normal ds games has about 30-60mb so what? 120mb per game is still not really much! you get 4gb USB flash for nothing and my 2gb microsd casts 10€ so it does it matter that much o0 also, you can stretch or cut a video ;P

 

[da_head]

The games would need two tile sets or texture sets which would result in double file size. You can't compare that to the GB/GBC thing.

Nintendo won't do that.

lol i wrote that nintedo wont do ^^
also, a normal ds games has about 30-60mb so what? 120mb per game is still not really much! you get 4gb USB flash for nothing and my 2gb microsd casts 10€ so it does it matter that much o0 also, you can stretch or cut a video ;P

ds games r cartridges not usb sticks.

 

[Fraesh]

The games would need two tile sets or texture sets which would result in double file size. You can't compare that to the GB/GBC thing.

Nintendo won't do that.

lol i wrote that nintedo wont do ^^
also, a normal ds games has about 30-60mb so what? 120mb per game is still not really much! you get 4gb USB flash for nothing and my 2gb microsd casts 10€ so it does it matter that much o0 also, you can stretch or cut a video ;P

ds games r cartridges not usb sticks.

i know but i wanted to show that space isnt expencive and that 100mb isnt that much these days... i know they are cartridges -.-

 

[Ferrariman]

Yes it's possible, but it won't happen. Nintendo would have shown a crazy tech demo. It's like saying that the PS2 Slim had better graphics then the original PS2.

Yea, because no other Nintendo handheld consoles did this...
Oh, wait... Zelda Oracle's did that... it would detect if it was in a GBC or GBA and load a different palette set as well as open a new shop if on GBA... Zelda DX had the BW/Color option... GB(M) or GBC... different palette sets as well (and a new dungeon) There were other games to do that, just can't remember any as it's been a while since i've played them... it's not all that hard to do... a different palette set for 2d graphics... as for FMV, just 2 different resolution videos...

WOW!!! THAT SOME PROOF YOU GOT THERE. Oh wait.GBA and GBC had NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrrr...)

 

[MyauChanDesu]

there are no graphical improvements. the screen is just SLIGHTLY larger.

Which, when you think about it, might actually make the graphics appear worse. Since the fidelity of the DS is already so limited, blowing that up a bit probably will only help to highlight this fact. Of course, we're talking about a very minor expansion in the screen(s) size.

isn't there going to be something to prevent the game to look pixilated?

 

[kennypu]

Yes it's possible, but it won't happen. Nintendo would have shown a crazy tech demo. It's like saying that the PS2 Slim had better graphics then the original PS2.

Yea, because no other Nintendo handheld consoles did this...
Oh, wait... Zelda Oracle's did that... it would detect if it was in a GBC or GBA and load a different palette set as well as open a new shop if on GBA... Zelda DX had the BW/Color option... GB(M) or GBC... different palette sets as well (and a new dungeon) There were other games to do that, just can't remember any as it's been a while since i've played them... it's not all that hard to do... a different palette set for 2d graphics... as for FMV, just 2 different resolution videos...

WOW!!! THAT SOME PROOF YOU GOT THERE. Oh wait.GBA and GBC had NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrrr...)

wow nice put down you got there, DSi has a camera? oh wait, it has NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrr...)
anyways, I am quite sure they will have DSi only games. Especially now that they have a camera, mp3 player, sd card reader, this gives chance for new game play that isn't possible on the DSL or original DS. I don't think the DSi is such a bad idea as some of you guys put it to be. especially since they will have DS 'channels' too. A lot of interesting things can come out. we shall be patient and see :3

 

[Fraesh]

at least games from the download channelwill be dsi only xD

 

[Twiggy12]

guys, think about it please...
watch the grand brother of the ds, the computer!
there are computers with diffrent graphics that all play the same games, more or less good...
what about games with adjustable graphics, hm?
options -> DS/Lite - DSi
so it actually IS possible then techincal way but i dont think nintendo will do ;P

wtf u talkin about?

He's talking about something that wouldn't work at all.

Or put simply, I think he's trying to say that games should have a "DS Mode" and a "DSi mode" if the DSi were to have better graphics.

The cart would have two sets of the game on it, say one has higher resolution textures, and it would detect whether it's being run on a "DS" or a "DSi" and choose which set, low-res or high-res, of textures to use.

It wouldn't work though. The idea is just stupid.

the idea may be stupid, yeah, but on the other hand, there were some n64 games which worked on the n64 just fine, but could be improbed by adding a ram pack to it...

well right now ive been thinking.......the ds is great with cartoons and some sprites since it has such a range of colours , what was it, 4568 colours or sumfin so maybe dsi has a larger range of colours so they wont have to change resolution or anything like that they could just display more colours for better detail

(by the way NO I DONT know wot im talkin bout im just saying another one of my stupid suggestions

 

[Raestloz]

Yes it's possible, but it won't happen. Nintendo would have shown a crazy tech demo. It's like saying that the PS2 Slim had better graphics then the original PS2.

Yea, because no other Nintendo handheld consoles did this...
Oh, wait... Zelda Oracle's did that... it would detect if it was in a GBC or GBA and load a different palette set as well as open a new shop if on GBA... Zelda DX had the BW/Color option... GB(M) or GBC... different palette sets as well (and a new dungeon) There were other games to do that, just can't remember any as it's been a while since i've played them... it's not all that hard to do... a different palette set for 2d graphics... as for FMV, just 2 different resolution videos...

WOW!!! THAT SOME PROOF YOU GOT THERE. Oh wait.GBA and GBC had NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrrr...)

wow nice put down you got there, DSi has a camera? oh wait, it has NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrr...)

I believe ferrariman was pointing at the fact that GB and GBC has different hardware graphical-wise, not feature-wise, Game Boy Camera was an expansion

Wait..... There are 4 versions of Game Boy

Game Boy
Game Boy Color
Game Boy Advance
Game Boy Advance SP
One of them (GBC) got a Game Boy Camera

NDS has 3 versions of itself
NDS Phat
NDS Lite
NDSi
One of them (NDSi) got a Camera

Now, with this pattern, I'm sure we'll see another version of NDS

 

[thedicemaster]

Spoiler

Yes it's possible, but it won't happen. Nintendo would have shown a crazy tech demo. It's like saying that the PS2 Slim had better graphics then the original PS2.

Yea, because no other Nintendo handheld consoles did this...
Oh, wait... Zelda Oracle's did that... it would detect if it was in a GBC or GBA and load a different palette set as well as open a new shop if on GBA... Zelda DX had the BW/Color option... GB(M) or GBC... different palette sets as well (and a new dungeon) There were other games to do that, just can't remember any as it's been a while since i've played them... it's not all that hard to do... a different palette set for 2d graphics... as for FMV, just 2 different resolution videos...

WOW!!! THAT SOME PROOF YOU GOT THERE. Oh wait.GBA and GBC had NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrrr...)

wow nice put down you got there, DSi has a camera? oh wait, it has NEW HARDWARE. (Durrrr...)

I believe ferrariman was pointing at the fact that GB and GBC has different hardware graphical-wise, not feature-wise, Game Boy Camera was an expansion

Wait..... There are 4 versions of Game Boy

Game Boy
Game Boy Color
Game Boy Advance
Game Boy Advance SP
One of them (GBC) got a Game Boy Camera

NDS has 3 versions of itself
NDS Phat
NDS Lite
NDSi
One of them (NDSi) got a Camera

Now, with this pattern, I'm sure we'll see another version of NDS

spoilered the quote.
all gameboys i know of:
gameboy(like DS phat)
gameboy pocket(like DS lite)
gameboy color(like DSi)
gameboy advance
gameboy advance afterburner(not sure about the name, it was a small upgrade that included a built-in screen light)
gameboy advance SP
gameboy advance micro
and there's the 2 adapters for playing GB/GBA games on a console.

 

[Raestloz]

Oh, yeah forgot Game Boy Micro. Wait... is there Game Boy Advance afterburner? I never heard of that, and the same for Game Boy Pocket.

Adapters for playing GBA on console, is that GBA Player for GameCube? what's the other one?

 

[thedicemaster]

Oh, yeah forgot Game Boy Micro. Wait... is there Game Boy Advance afterburner? I never heard of that, and the same for Game Boy Pocket.

Adapters for playing GBA on console, is that GBA Player for GameCube? what's the other one?

i think supergameboy for the snes.
a snes cart with a GB/GBC slot so you can play your GB/GBC games on your TV.

the GBA afterburner i only heard of from GBA(rom) sites, and the GB pocket has the hardware of a GB, but is slightly smaller than a GBC.
and it comes in different colors(tough i've only seen red ones)

EDIT: did some wikipedia searching.
apparently there's no info about a GBA afterburner, tough there was an afterburner mod-kit that allowed you to build a backlight into your GBA.

i did however find 2 other not listed gameboys on wikipedia:
gameboy light(a gameboy with backlight)
and the GPA SP+(a GBA SP with backlight instead of frontlight, and 2 brightness settings)

 

[kennypu]

If were talking about gameboy versions here, theres one very underground one, I forgot what its called, but It was exactly like the first game boy(the fat one), xcept it had a back light to it. I think it was called gameboy glow or something like that, my cousin has it.

EDIT: K i found it, it was called Gameboy Light. It never came to the US no wonder its not known here -.-

EDIT2: thedicemaster beat me to it, nvm

 

[Raestloz]

I'll just hope Nintendo will stall NDS life longer with new NDS versions, I don't need a camera on my DS, my CyberShot is there for obvious reason

BTW, now NDS has touchscreen, camera, and microphone, it's so interactive, wonder what will be implemented on Nintendo's next handheld? NDSi has taken everything an interactive handheld can have except graphical power