FOX Announces Gotham / Gordan Gets his own Show

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On the same day that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. premiered, FOX decides to announce its own super hero spin-off show. Enjoy!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/27/entertainment-us-batman-idUSBRE98O1AQ20130927
 

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This is Pre-Batman, right? That doesn't sound all that exciting. There are various other police dramas on television that I can watch to get my fix if need be. Maybe if this ties into the new line of films I'll attempt to watch it at least once, but for now I'll pass.
 
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I loved every bit of the Batman trilogy, this is definitely something I'll be keeping my eye on.
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.
you can make a series out of any stupid idea, only now they are using a selling point to get free publicity... and can sometimes makes cameos here and there...
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.
Except Jim Gordon is a legitimate and interesting character and police dramas/procedurals are actually pretty difficult to fuck up. J3 and print editing, not so much.
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.

No idea why, but I legit busted out laughing at that last bit haha! All-in-all, I agree! I don't see this lasting long.
 

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Except Jim Gordon is a legitimate and interesting character and police dramas/procedurals are actually pretty difficult to fuck up. J3 and print editing, not so much.


"Pretty difficult to fuck up" because they're boring and formulaic. And if Agents of SHIELD is teaching us anything it's that superhero shows minus superheroes are actual shit. Because superheroes are interesting because they're A) super and B) heroes. Their cavalcade of side characters are neither and completely uninteresting.
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.

I would watch the hell out of that, assuming it was sort of like an Office type show, and it had J.K. Simmons.
 

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So it's Batman before any of the things that make the franchise interesting (you know, Batman and the rogues gallery that comes with). Woo?

It'd be like if Sony tried to make "Jameson", an exciting prequel to the Spider-Man franchise where J. Jonah Jameson runs a newspaper and sometimes gets grumpy.


I think it'd be more like if they tried to make a Captain Stacey show about how he becomes Captain.
 

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Two shows compared to the large amount other shows they either canned flat out or cancelled than un-cancelled, then cancelled again.
Just because they didn't cancel two shows doesn't give any hope to this one.
 

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Two shows compared to the large amount other shows they either canned flat out or cancelled than un-cancelled, then cancelled again.
Just because they didn't cancel two shows doesn't give any hope to this one.


The vast majority of television shows get cancelled anyway; it's not just Fox. I mean, of all the new shows premiering this fall, how many do you think are actually going to stick around? I guarantee you it'll be a small percentage. Networks find what works in their schedule and then cull the rest.

And the point wasn't "These shows didn't get cancelled." The point is that Fox is more than happy to run something into the ground for as long as it can, perhaps more than any network. There's far, far more examples where they came from (24, the entire MacFarlane block, American Idol, Married... With Children, etc.). Hell, they gave Arrested Development three seasons. Considering that show's abysmal ratings, that was pretty damn generous of them.

Firefly was 10 years ago. Move on, bub.
 

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The vast majority of television shows get cancelled anyway; it's not just Fox. I mean, of all the new shows premiering this fall, how many do you think are actually going to stick around? I guarantee you it'll be a small percentage. Networks find what works in their schedule and then cull the rest.

And the point wasn't "These shows didn't get cancelled." The point is that Fox is more than happy to run something into the ground for as long as it can, perhaps more than any network. There's far, far more examples where they came from (24, the entire MacFarlane block, American Idol, Married... With Children, etc.). Hell, they gave Arrested Development three seasons. Considering that show's abysmal ratings, that was pretty damn generous of them.

Firefly was 10 years ago. Move on, bub.

My point still is that I don't expect this show to last as long as it should. Not saying it's impossible, but FOX has been known to do some weird things, like cancel popular shows, but keep shows that were losing in popularity. Maybe I will be wrong and this show will not only be a hit, but FOX will see that and keep it running, who knows I don't predict the future.
 

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"Pretty difficult to fuck up" because they're boring and formulaic. And if Agents of SHIELD is teaching us anything it's that superhero shows minus superheroes are actual shit. Because superheroes are interesting because they're A) super and B) heroes. Their cavalcade of side characters are neither and completely uninteresting.
I agree. All superhero shows without superheroes leave a little to be desired. All of them. The one superhero show without superheroes... But does that really mean it's impossible for someone to get it right? And is it really that fair to deem a show shit after two decent episodes?
 
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