Five Reasons the PSP2 won't succeed

[Sully99]

Sony has announced the PSP2 (temporarily named the “Next Generation Portable”), perhaps the final boss of handheld consoles. It’s far more powerful than its destined competitor, Nintendo’s 3DS, and incorporates social and locational data, 3G, a monster 5? OLED screen, and a number of other features detailed here. It is to be one of the linchpin platforms for the world’s most recognizable entertainment electronics company, a stomping ground for new games, media, and services. And I think it’s going to go down in flames.

Why? It’s got its competitor beat on nearly every spec, it’s got the backing of droves of Sony fanboys, and million-selling franchises just waiting to be put on its crisp 960×544 screen. How can it fail? I’d say by not addressing the fundamental needs of a handheld gaming console and ignoring strong trends in the market.

Before I start, I just want to register my admiration of the Sony team in putting together such an impressive piece of hardware. No one can fault that. Sony is firing on all cylinders — but in my humble opinion, in the wrong direction. Here are the reasons why I feel they’re going to be steamrolled by Nintendo (and Apple) over the next three years.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/01/27/five-...2-wont-succeed/

 

[Vigilante]

great nintendo fan boy on the link

 

[_Chaz_]

A lot of the same could be said of the 3DS.

Or really every gaming system ever sold.

 

[TheTwoR's]

I don't know if I'm the only one who 100% agreed with the guy who wrote that page.

 

[Neo_Ch!p]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

 

[TheDestroyer]

Every gaming console has drawbacks and even so, it's a decision made by people. Theres probably 90% chance of me getting both 3ds and psp2 on the near future.

 

[CarbonX13]

Can this even be considered news?

 

[_Chaz_]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

Ha!

I've been saying it for at least 4 years!

 

[nryn99]

i don't agree to all his points but most if it. but the touchpad behind is new.

 

[Terminator02]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

then i bet u hate the 3DS

 

[Maedhros]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

Yes, because having great graphics you CAN'T have FUN...

Seriously... (sorry moderation, you can warn/ban me), but guys like you are fuck'n retards. That means... 90% of this forum.

 

[_Chaz_]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

then i bet u hate the 3DS

The first console to use 3D visualizations without the need for glasses let alone with touch screen technology?

Yeah, it sure sucks.

 

[SylvWolf]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

Innovation != fun. Innovation can lead to a lot of fun, as evidenced by the DS and Wii, but that's mainly due to solid games making good use of new features. If innovation meant instant fun, then the VirtualBoy and CDi would have done a little better, don't you think?

EDIT: I read it a bit wrong, but I still don't think innovation is even a major part of fun, at least to some people.

 

[Maedhros]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed
then i bet u hate the 3DS

The first console to use 3D visualizations without the need for glasses let alone with touch screen technology?

Yeah, it sure sucks.

QUOTE(Maedhros @ Jan 28 2011, 11:54 PM)

Yes, because having great graphics you CAN'T have FUN...

Seriously... (sorry moderation, you can warn/ban me), but guys like you are fuck'n retards. That means... 90% of this forum.

He literally said "Graphics DO NOT 'make' 'FUN'." You're making it seem like he said "Graphics = No Fun."

I think you're a bit retarded.

Something that will not be used for more than some minutes at least and something that brings NOTHING major to the gameplay (immersion could even be a nice argument, but that only works on big screens), it's just a gimmick.

Graphics don't have NOTHING to do with the fun. What is important are the games who will be released, that's valid for both consoles. If we have good games coming for them, it'll sell.

EDIT: About the second quote... a lot of people think that Sony only focus on graphics, so no fun. I assumed that he was one of these. But I have understood him wrong, I guess... anyway... Inovation don't bring fun necessarially... it's how the companies uses the resources of the console who makes it fun... and NGP has nothing wrong on that side, it has a lot of things who could be used to make great games. And the thirdies ARE interested on it, so we can expect a lot of games bringing innovative uses.

 

[Oveneise]

Honestly, they both look like they'll be great systems, but Sony shouldn't market the psp2 on its hardware alone, but rather, market it on the games that will get released on it. A game system is only as good as the games it has on it. I have both a DS and borrowed my buddy's PSP for a few months, and I hardly ever touched the PSP, due to it mostly having watered-down PS2 ports, and just not enough fun games. Hopefully Sony will be able to make some great games for the PSP2, since it looks like it has a ton of potential.

EDIT: Wow... a lot of butthurt on this thread.

 

[Gman 101]

The article does seem a "little" biased *COUGH*. To say that it doesn't bring anything new isn't necessarily a drawback. For the 3DS, the addition of no-glasses 3D is just bait for the sheeple and uneducated masses. Soon it blows over since it isn't that great. The revolutionary thing about the PSP2 is two joysticks. That really changes everything. Whereas the 3DS' main improvement over the DS is a joystick. Both have much larger processing power than previous generations, although the PSP2 is truly impressive.

And then saying AAA titles never sell. That's like saying the CoD series won't help console sales. It sure does. I'm pretty sure if piracy isn't rampant on the PSP2, games like GTA would help sell the console like hotcakes. Granted, this wasn't the case on the DS, and people are still confused as to why.

Finally to address the statement that "big-screen titles are big screen for a reason". That argument is quite disillusional, and somewhat strawman. People would kill to have full console games on the go, otherwise what are portable gaming laptops for? Or GTA on PSP. This guy just sounds like a typical pro-casual gamer Nintendo fanboy.

Nevertheless, I'm supportive of both the PSP2 and the 3DS, just that the prospect of full console games on the PSP2 with two joysticks really makes me excited. The only thing that gets the 3DS going for me is Ocarina of Time... and that's about it.

 

[_Chaz_]

Something that will not be used for more than some minutes at least and something that brings NOTHING major to the gameplay (immersion could even be a nice argument, but that only works on big screens), it's just a gimmick.

Graphics don't have NOTHING to do with the fun. What is important are the games who will be released, that's valid for both consoles. If we have good games coming for them, it'll sell.

Some gimmicks are fun.
The DS and the Wii wouldn't have been nearly as much fun if I wasn't tapping a screen or flailing my arms. It's just FUN.
Big screens are just another reason for developers to not try as hard as they would have to on a small screen.

Graphics have almost nothing to do with the fun. My proof? Zork.

 

[Maedhros]

Something that will not be used for more than some minutes at least and something that brings NOTHING major to the gameplay (immersion could even be a nice argument, but that only works on big screens), it's just a gimmick.

Graphics don't have NOTHING to do with the fun. What is important are the games who will be released, that's valid for both consoles. If we have good games coming for them, it'll sell.

Some gimmicks are fun.
The DS and the Wii wouldn't have been nearly as much fun if I wasn't tapping a screen or flailing my arms. It's just FUN.
Big screens are just another reason for developers to not try as hard as they would have to on a small screen.

Graphics have almost nothing to do with the fun. My proof? Zork.

That's really subjective... I don't like waving my arms most of the time on the wii, but that's me (when the game have support for GC/Classic Controller, you can bet I'll use that).
The DS brought some interesting uses of the touchscreen... but most of the time, games would use the touch to access menus and maps... not that was a bad thing... but that's a example of bad use of an interesting feature. It only depends on how the hell the companies will use the features on the NGP (we already saw a really interesting tech demo using the back touchpad).
The hell big screens have to do with developers no trying... that makes no sense.

 

[_Chaz_]

That's really subjective... I don't like waving my arms most of the time on the wii, but that's me (when the game have support for GC/Classic Controller, you can bet I'll use that).
The DS brought some interesting uses of the touchscreen... but most of the time, games would use the touch to access menus and maps... not that was a bad thing... but that's a example of bad use of an interesting feature. It only depends on how the hell the companies will use the features on the NGP (we already saw a really interesting tech demo using the back touchpad).
The hell big screens have to do with developers no trying... that makes no sense.

Subjective or not, enough people found it fun to make them the best selling consoles of their generations.

It makes plenty of sense. Do I want to attract you with effort, or do I want to impress you with the number of polygons you can see at once?

 

[Rock Raiyu]

I've been saying it for 3 straight months. Graphics DO NOT 'make' "FUN". I'll spell out what plays a major role in "Fun":

"I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N"... case closed

then i bet u hate the 3DS

The first console to use 3D visualizations without the need for glasses let alone with touch screen technology?

Yeah, it sure sucks.

Sure it does that, but it doesn't bring anything to the table. Not many are interested in the 3D. What drew people in were the graphics it was showing and capable of doing.