Hacking Emulation Potential Speculation

[metroid maniac]

What are your opinions on the capabilities of the 3DS and N3DS as an emulation device?
A few emulators have already started popping up but I haven't used any of them.
Will it have an edge on the PSP? The two screens of 400x240 and 320x240 seem ideal for accurately displaying systems like the NES, SNES and Genesis, but it's hard to say how well they'd run in comparison to the PSP which had significant issues with the SNES and GBA. And of course, the PSP has hardware designed for PS1 to give it an advantage there.
What do you think?

 

[the_randomizer]

Already, the Snes emulation aspect is showing it better than on the PSP, at least when it comes to sound emulation, which been an issue on portable devices with said emulation. Genesis can be done I'm sure, GB/ GBC is being worked on, as is NES. Soon I hope we get GBA emulation as Nintendo used DS mode for their Ambassador Program, so, for pretty much all 8, 16 and some 32-bit systems, I can see it being done on the 3DS. PSX, maybe, but it would be a royal pain to port code written in x86-64 to ARM for a console that was written in MIPS (both PSX and N64).

 

[metroid maniac]

Already, the Snes emulation aspect is showing it better than on the PSP, at least when it comes to sound emulation, which been an issue on portable devices with said emulation. Genesis can be done I'm sure, GB/ GBC is being worked on, as is NES. Soon I hope we get GBA emulation as Nintendo used DS mode for their Ambassador Program, so, for pretty much all 8, 16 and some 32-bit systems, I can see it being done on the 3DS. PSX, maybe, but it would be a royal pain to port code written in x86-64 to ARM for a console that was written in MIPS (both PSX and N64).

The PS1 and N64 are probably going to be 3DS' limit. The N3DS might fare better but N64 on PSP was not a nice experience, and I think the 3DS and PSP are comparable in power.

 

[reprep]

I would be really happy if 3DS happens to have near perfect GB/GBC/GBA, NES, SNES and Sega Genesis emulation. N64 and PSX are extra for me.

 

[the_randomizer]

The PS1 and N64 are probably going to be 3DS' limit. The N3DS might fare better but N64 on PSP was not a nice experience, and I think the 3DS and PSP are comparable in power.

They are, 3DS might be slightly more powerful and Snes definitely is starting to fare better on it than the PSP, many games are running full speed and sound is much better PSX is a big maybe, but it would be awesome.

 

[metroid maniac]

They are, 3DS might be slightly more powerful and Snes definitely is starting to fare better on it than the PSP, many games are running full speed and sound is much better PSX is a big maybe, but it would be awesome.

I'd switch over in a heartbeat even if PS1 emulation wasn't possible to the same standard. I've always hated how the PSP screen blurred the image, made it jaggy or windowboxed the game. The two 3DS screens almost seem designed for emulation.

 

[the_randomizer]

I'd switch over in a heartbeat even if PS1 emulation wasn't possible to the same standard. I've always hated how the PSP screen blurred the image, made it jaggy or windowboxed the game. The two 3DS screens almost seem designed for emulation.

This post here, http://gbatemp.net/threads/blargsnes-snes-emulator-for-the-3ds-wip.369900/page-55#post-5183364 shows how amazingly fitting Snes is on the 3DS screen, excellent aspect ratio and resolution, with the borders. It's like the 3DS was designed like you said, for old school emulation. Now we need Genesis/Megadrive emulation.

 

[Seraphiel]

I would think some ps1 games like Castlevania SoTN and Kof 95-99 might work then they used to work flawlessly on psp and have no need for a powerful engine.

 

[GreatCrippler]

Already, the Snes emulation aspect is showing it better than on the PSP, at least when it comes to sound emulation, which been an issue on portable devices with said emulation. Genesis can be done I'm sure, GB/ GBC is being worked on, as is NES. Soon I hope we get GBA emulation as Nintendo used DS mode for their Ambassador Program, so, for pretty much all 8, 16 and some 32-bit systems, I can see it being done on the 3DS. PSX, maybe, but it would be a royal pain to port code written in x86-64 to ARM for a console that was written in MIPS (both PSX and N64).

Better when it comes to sound emulation? As far as I know, not a single emulator's official build even supports sound. Unless i am mistaken?

 

[kedest]

Snes emulation is pretty nice already, can't wait to see what else is coming. I hope it has the power to properly run FX chip games in future updates.
I was thinking about getting a dedicated open-source handheld for emulation gaming (like a gcw-zero for example, or the upcoming pyra), but it looks like 3DS has great potential now.

 

[4gionz]

Better when it comes to sound emulation? As far as I know, not a single emulator's official build even supports sound. Unless i am mistaken?

Blargsnes 1.2 is out supporting sound (and yes it's already better than the psp on the sound front i think psp had horrible sound) also it's a damn fine emulator especially that its so early in development

 

[the_randomizer]

Better when it comes to sound emulation? As far as I know, not a single emulator's official build even supports sound. Unless i am mistaken?

Actually, there is sound, as of version 1.2, which was released the other day on the BlargSnes thread, it uses CSND access as a placeholder via Gateway or the Ninjax exploit. The DSP will be RE'd soon to make it easier.

 

[GreatCrippler]

Spiff, then I do stand corrected.

 

[MyJoyConRunsHot]

The PS1 and N64 are probably going to be 3DS' limit. The N3DS might fare better but N64 on PSP was not a nice experience, and I think the 3DS and PSP are comparable in power.

Emulation poptential, they are comparable. Power is a whole nother ballpark where the PSP couldn't compete.

 

[Oxybelis]

Is not BlargSNES a emu built from ground up for DS/3DS? And PSP only got ports of SNES9X.

 

[the_randomizer]

Is not BlargSNES a emu built from ground up for DS/3DS? And PSP only got ports of SNES9X.

Yeah, it is, the PSP got a shitty port of Snes9x 1.43, this one had some parts from lolSnes ported over, but a lot of it is from scratch as well, and already showing signs of being better than the PSP Snes emulation.

 

[piratesephiroth]

emulation potention speculation

 

[hippy dave]

emulation potentulation speculation

 

[DiscostewSM]

I would think some ps1 games like Castlevania SoTN and Kof 95-99 might work then they used to work flawlessly on psp and have no need for a powerful engine.

They work flawlessly because the PSP and the PS1 share the same CPU base architecture, so they require little emulation (if any) in that department. The rest can be spent on what makes them different. With that said, I can see a GBA emulator (not using the built-in firmware on the 3DS) run quite well for the same reason.

 

[Seraphiel]

They work flawlessly because the PSP and the PS1 share the same CPU base architecture, so they require little emulation (if any) in that department. The rest can be spent on what makes them different. With that said, I can see a GBA emulator (not using the built-in firmware on the 3DS) run quite well for the same reason.

Well yea I guess that's true as well, but if the 3DS is somewhat close to psp in specs there might be a chance.

Also now that I remember i actually played KoF on a neogeo emulator on the psp, makes me wonder if arcade emulator can work on a 3DS too.