DSi-Mode Homebrew is Here

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DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)
 
Hop2089 said:
Too little, too late now that the 3DS will have a date and price in a month's time, they should have waited and focused their resources on the 3DS.

How are they suppose to work on something that very little is known about it and probably will be nearly impossible to use a flash cart to play games for
 
To stop the n00b flood:

QUOTE said:
This method also won’t allow you to run rom dumps and it’s not something I plan to support at any point in the future. Obviously I can’t control what you do when you have the ability to run code but please consider not releasing anything that’s piracy related or has the potential to enable piracy. I believe homebrew can thrive as long as we distance ourselves from the people who want to get their games for free.
 
Hakoda said:
To stop the n00b flood:

QUOTE said:
This method also won’t allow you to run rom dumps and it’s not something I plan to support at any point in the future. Obviously I can’t control what you do when you have the ability to run code but please consider not releasing anything that’s piracy related or has the potential to enable piracy. I believe homebrew can thrive as long as we distance ourselves from the people who want to get their games for free.

Still, AFAIK and ROM Loader is possible, just not by the same hacker.
 
Awesome lets see what the community does with this
Offtopic:Why isnt there like a homebrew you can run from another flashcart which will allow ds homebrew be loaded through download play or something or better yet from your pc.
 
Hop2089 said:
Too little, too late now that the 3DS will have a date and price in a month's time, they should have waited and focused their resources on the 3DS.

People didn't stop developing GBA homebrew when the DS came out, why shouldn't the same apply for the 3DS?

QUOTE(YayMii @ Aug 25 2010, 06:51 PM) DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)

I'm fairly certain team twiizers have mapped quite a bit of the offsets for things like the SD slot. What we need to worry about it whether or not this DSi Mode we get gives us access to all the functions (check my post on page 3).

Really with the DSTwo the only thing that could be of use is the cameras and SD slot.
 
naruses said:
Hakoda said:
To stop the n00b flood:

QUOTE said:
This method also won’t allow you to run rom dumps and it’s not something I plan to support at any point in the future. Obviously I can’t control what you do when you have the ability to run code but please consider not releasing anything that’s piracy related or has the potential to enable piracy. I believe homebrew can thrive as long as we distance ourselves from the people who want to get their games for free.

Still, AFAIK and ROM Loader is possible, just not by the same hacker.
True but this would stop questions like "How can get free DSi ROMs?" or "Where do I download the hack for DSiWare?"

Sure, its possible but just not in this article or at this moment.
 
So this is not fully done yet right? I think we should all wait until a stable and tested version of it is out.
 
haddad said:
So this is not fully done yet right? I think we should all wait until a stable and tested version of it is out.
I don't think you know what people mean by 'stable'.
This is the exploit that might lead us to everything possible, it's just that nobody has designed anything to take advantage of it.
 
Just a question do I need Cooking Coach and Classic Word Games on my Flashcard or on a real card ??
I don't understand what to do with that DSlink stuff
unsure.gif
 
YayMii said:
DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)

You think if custom channels were possible, it wouldn't have been done already by hackers like WinterMute? There'd have to be a major flaw in the DSi system to allow unsigned/fakesigned channels to be installed, like the Trucha Bug on the Wii, and AFAIK, no such major flaw has been found as of yet.

haddad said:
So this is not fully done yet right? I think we should all wait until a stable and tested version of it is out.

It IS fully done, it IS stable and it IS tested. I don't know what more you want, but I think you are implying that because it can't run warezed DSiWare and DSi exclusive/enhanced games, its not finished. Those things will NEVER be added to this. The dev is very much against piracy. This is only for loading homebrew apps and games.


shakirmoledina said:
maybe he should have waited until 3ds was really close since 3ds may block such an exploit... lets hope nintendo doesnt find out
camera and SD huh... there can be some good ideas coming already

Considering recent hardware revisions of the DSi block the exploit, that is incredibly unlikely.

QUOTE(SOS-Rens @ Aug 26 2010, 10:20 AM)
Just a question do I need Cooking Coach and Classic Word Games on my Flashcard or on a real card ??
I don't understand what to do with that DSlink stuff
unsure.gif

You need them on a real card, because they need to be in DSi mode.

As for not understanding what to do:

Use a DSi Compatible flash card to run the DSLink installer.
Then inject the exploited save into one of the games, and run it.
Perform the exploit.
Run the host application on your computer (there are versions for Windows, Linux and Mac) to send a homebrew app to DSi.
 
shakirmoledina said:
maybe he should have waited until 3ds was really close since 3ds may block such an exploit... lets hope nintendo doesnt find out
I don't think it would've made the slightest difference if this was released /after/ the 3DS release.
I'm guessing Nintendo will entirely revamp their current structure with the 3DS. :/
 
SifJar said:
YayMii said:
DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)

You think if custom channels were possible, it wouldn't have been done already by hackers like WinterMute? There'd have to be a major flaw in the DSi system to allow unsigned/fakesigned channels to be installed, like the Trucha Bug on the Wii, and AFAIK, no such major flaw has been found as of yet.

haddad said:
So this is not fully done yet right? I think we should all wait until a stable and tested version of it is out.

It IS fully done, it IS stable and it IS tested. I don't know what more you want, but I think you are implying that because it can't run warezed DSiWare and DSi exclusive/enhanced games, its not finished. Those things will NEVER be added to this. The dev is very much against piracy. This is only for loading homebrew apps and games.


shakirmoledina said:
maybe he should have waited until 3ds was really close since 3ds may block such an exploit... lets hope nintendo doesnt find out
camera and SD huh... there can be some good ideas coming already

Considering recent hardware revisions of the DSi block the exploit, that is incredibly unlikely.

QUOTE(SOS-Rens @ Aug 26 2010, 10:20 AM)
Just a question do I need Cooking Coach and Classic Word Games on my Flashcard or on a real card ??
I don't understand what to do with that DSlink stuff
unsure.gif

You need them on a real card, because they need to be in DSi mode.

As for not understanding what to do:

Use a DSi Compatible flash card to run the DSLink installer.
Then inject the exploited save into one of the games, and run it.
Perform the exploit.
Run the host application on your computer (there are versions for Windows, Linux and Mac) to send a homebrew app to DSi.
How can I use the windows client
? it asks for an adress.
 
8BitWalugi said:
Wait, so HOW do I install DSLink?

Get a DSi Compatible flashcard (e.g. M3iZero, SCDS2 etc.) and run the file "installDSiLink.nds" on it.

QUOTE(ismaelWii @ Aug 26 2010, 12:21 PM) How can I use the windows client
? it asks for an adress.

Open a command prompt (press Windows button and R together, then type "cmd" and press enter), navigate to the location of "dslink.exe" (to make life easier, you may want to copy it to the root of the C: drive, then you can just type "cd C:\" to get to the right location), and type "dslink.exe -a {ip address} {pathtondsfile}". The IP address should be displayed on the DSi when you have triggered the exploit in Cooking Coach or Classic Word Games AFAIK.
 
SifJar said:
YayMii said:
DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)

You think if custom channels were possible, it wouldn't have been done already by hackers like WinterMute? There'd have to be a major flaw in the DSi system to allow unsigned/fakesigned channels to be installed, like the Trucha Bug on the Wii, and AFAIK, no such major flaw has been found as of yet.

This release by wintermute is an advancement towards the next step in obtaining the common-key.

Why are we talking about pirating dsiware? As mentioned before wintermute has no intentions of piracy, even though that wouldn't stop devs from doing he's asking nicely not to.

Don't be guided to think making a "homebrew/rom loader" is simple, most of you are spoiled by Wii where you can install/run easily homebrew and run your Warez. Its well complicated but not impossible, it just takes time and the more people fiddle with this the more chance we can hack it right. I'm not a coder but I'm sure if someone can run a program with its 16mb space in the wifi card to some how crash the system then "common-key" goodness is only week's away.
 
ThatDudeWithTheFood said:
Awesome lets see what the community does with this
Offtopic:Why isnt there like a homebrew you can run from another flashcart which will allow ds homebrew be loaded through download play or something or better yet from your pc.

Used to be we could do that through Download Play, on the very first few batches of Phat DS systems. There was a signature bug that allowed people to do that, but it quickly got fixed when they let the next batch loose. It hasn't been applicable since then.

As for loading from your PC, realize that the loading speed on larger homebrew and any required data would be brutally slow at times because of the really slow connection speed on the DS.
 
Neo_Ch!p said:
SifJar said:
YayMii said:
DSi Mode=access to all the new hardware of the DSi. Currently, we can't access the cameras, the SD card, or the extra power because we haven't completely uncovered the code to any of these things. All flashcarts (so far) doesn't use DSi Mode, so we have to get someone to start using this to actually do stuff. The extra power could be used for a better homebrew browser, new versions of homebrew that support WPA, much better emulators (which has already been made possible due to the DSTWO), video recorders, etc.

We can't pirate DSiWare yet, but if someone was dedicated enough to investigate more, we'd be able to get these and so much more (custom DSi channels, anyone?)

You think if custom channels were possible, it wouldn't have been done already by hackers like WinterMute? There'd have to be a major flaw in the DSi system to allow unsigned/fakesigned channels to be installed, like the Trucha Bug on the Wii, and AFAIK, no such major flaw has been found as of yet.

This release by wintermute is an advancement towards the next step in obtaining the common-key.

Why are we talking about pirating dsiware? As mentioned before wintermute has no intentions of piracy, even though that wouldn't stop devs from doing he's asking nicely not to.

Don't be guided to think making a "homebrew/rom loader" is simple, most of you are spoiled by Wii where you can install/run easily homebrew and run your Warez. Its well complicated but not impossible, it just takes time and the more people fiddle with this the more chance we can hack it right. I'm not a coder but I'm sure if someone can run a program with its 16mb space in the wifi card to some how crash the system then "common-key" goodness is only week's away.

The exploit isn't made for obtaining the common-key. It's so you can do things like run homebrew in DSi-mode. Granted it could be easier to exploit the system and obtain the common key when it's in this state, but that definitely wasn't the main goal wintermute had in mind when he was making this. Also just having the common-key doesn't mean the gates are wide open and hackers can do whatever they want, in fact they could install channels without the common-key if they find another trucha bug. The common-key just makes things easier in the long run.

Further more, SifJar, one of the reasons there's no channels yet is because unlike the Wii there's no easy way to obtain NAND access. Bushing said on the Wii it was something as simple at editing a quick file on the Wii, but on the DSi it isn't the same case.
 

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