DSi incompatible with existing flash carts?

[Sir-Fritz]

The following carts, along with the R4 DS and EZ V DO NOT WORK ON THE DSi

CycloDS - Failed
G6 DS Real - Failed
M3 DS Real - Failed
Supercard DS One - Failed
iTouch DS - Failed
FCard - Failed
NCard - Failed
M3 DS Simply - Failed
U2DS - Failed

There are also LIVE (mandatory?) updates to the DSi firmware when you enter the Shop or Settings menu, much like the Wii.

LIVE sounds more like you simply get the update (and the update is performed) while you can browse the shop / settings menu. Wouldn't expect that though (would expect a big message 'don't turn off, updating' while you can't do a thing). Thing is of course without internet connection no update via settings menu

. But why haven't any of the slot-2 card been tested (with passme2/nopass)? Have they kept the bios/firmware chip the same btw?

The dsi doesnt have slot 2.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Yeah, I was just about to write that!!

Only passcard can be tested, and that's only if it has splash screen!

 

[teonintyfive]

I'd laugh like fuck if they tried the DS-X and it worked.

 

[kedest]

Interesting. I always thought a flashcard was a perfect imitation of a real game, so the DS - even a new model - could never tell the difference.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

In that case, I think p1ngpong would be on the top of the World!!

And, it's not that impossible that DS-X would work! It might just happen..

 

[Scorpei]

The following carts, along with the R4 DS and EZ V DO NOT WORK ON THE DSi

CycloDS - Failed
G6 DS Real - Failed
M3 DS Real - Failed
Supercard DS One - Failed
iTouch DS - Failed
FCard - Failed
NCard - Failed
M3 DS Simply - Failed
U2DS - Failed

There are also LIVE (mandatory?) updates to the DSi firmware when you enter the Shop or Settings menu, much like the Wii.

LIVE sounds more like you simply get the update (and the update is performed) while you can browse the shop / settings menu. Wouldn't expect that though (would expect a big message 'don't turn off, updating' while you can't do a thing). Thing is of course without internet connection no update via settings menu

. But why haven't any of the slot-2 card been tested (with passme2/nopass)? Have they kept the bios/firmware chip the same btw?

Because there's NO slot-2?

Granted (yes I did forget that for a second) it isn't there right now, but what I'm getting at is open the thing up and see if one couldn't connect one

. Would also be interesting to see what a nopass (/passme) would do in general. I wonder if the buffer overflow is still there. Also (at least passme1) used the original cards authentication.

 

[Brian117]

Wow...whoever thought Nintendo would allow flashcart use, really fails miserably.

You're telling me, after all the crap they're doing right now with the flashcart companies, you thought they would allow piracy even MORE on their new system?

Crazy...

But don't get me wrong, having flashcart use on it would be cool.

 

[raulpica]

The following carts, along with the R4 DS and EZ V DO NOT WORK ON THE DSi

CycloDS - Failed
G6 DS Real - Failed
M3 DS Real - Failed
Supercard DS One - Failed
iTouch DS - Failed
FCard - Failed
NCard - Failed
M3 DS Simply - Failed
U2DS - Failed

There are also LIVE (mandatory?) updates to the DSi firmware when you enter the Shop or Settings menu, much like the Wii.

LIVE sounds more like you simply get the update (and the update is performed) while you can browse the shop / settings menu. Wouldn't expect that though (would expect a big message 'don't turn off, updating' while you can't do a thing). Thing is of course without internet connection no update via settings menu

. But why haven't any of the slot-2 card been tested (with passme2/nopass)? Have they kept the bios/firmware chip the same btw?

Because there's NO slot-2?

Granted (yes I did forget that for a second) it isn't there right now, but what I'm getting at is open the thing up and see if one couldn't connect one

. Would also be interesting to see what a nopass (/passme) would do in general. I wonder if the buffer overflow is still there. Also (at least passme1) used the original cards authentication.

Thought the same thing, but I'm still waiting for some internal photos, to say that

 

[BlueStar]

I'm curious to see if the Acekard 2 fails or not.

Only sliver of hope with AK2 is that it doesn't skip the health and safety screen.

 

[kedest]

Why do some of you think DS-X might work? What's different about that one?

 

[Destructobot]

I'm curious to see if the Acekard 2 fails or not.

Only sliver of hope with AK2 is that it doesn't skip the health and safety screen.

Neither does the CycloDS.

 

[BORTZ]

balls! Well i guess we dont have much to worry about. alot of you said you werent going to even bother buying one, and then an top of that we would have to wait for new flash carts, which shouldnt be too far behind. and even then we might not need them. We have an SD slot? whats stopping us?

 

[agentgamma]

R.I.P Flashcards

Hackers will probably make CFWs! XD
Memory card slots usually lead to piracy.
SO WHY did Nintendo add one?!?! XD
Just look at the

 

[CockroachMan]

This was pretty much expected..

Now we wait for someone to hack the SD slot.

 

[Mohammad]

please someone hack the firmware quickly lol, yeah what will be first a firmware hack (or new firmware) or a flashcard that can bypass, so what makes an official card official? Can't we just copy something like Mario Kart DS and have it look real?

 

[FAST6191]

Why do some of you think DS-X might work? What's different about that one?

Nothing but it seems the DSX has replaced neoflash as the byword for useless in the world of flash carts so it would be incredibly ironic for the DSX to work where all the other top tier carts stumble.

Back on topic while the whitelist idea is one but a couple of thousand games and the impracticality of hashing the whole rom means any whitelist would probably be restricted to the header information. I have not studied how DS flash carts are made/work in that great an amount of detail at this stage so I am not sure if it is merely a bug that has been exploited up to now that has been fixed or not.

What would be interesting (to me at least) is a savelist era (no bootstrap update) EZ5.

 

[lcleong]

get over with it !! why so nice about DSi anyway? if u wan DSi just buy the orignal game instead of hoping it working on flashcart!

 

[agentgamma]

please someone hack the firmware quickly lol, yeah what will be first a firmware hack (or new firmware) or a flashcard that can bypass, so what makes an official card official? Can't we just copy something like Mario Kart DS and have it look real?
My predictions
1- Hacker finds exploit.
2- People use exploit
3- Nintendo patches firmware
4- Hackers workaround new firmware in 5 minutes.
Repeat

Also if any company does put a real games header feel the wrath of Nintendooooooooooo!
QUOTE(lcleong @ Oct 31 2008, 11:25 PM) get over with it !! why so nice about DSi anyway? if u wan DSi just buy the orignal game instead of hoping it working on flashcart!

StillAliveDS?
Video Games Hero?
Emulators?

 

[JPH]

Dude, you gotta be kidding me - none of the flashcarts work?
Nintendo really showed us now.
That's pretty fucking crazy - kudos to you, Nintendo.

Hopefully some DSi-compatible flashcarts will pop up at the time needed, but until then let everyone enjoy their Lite's and the stacks of flashcarts available.

 

[Deleted member 76381]

Well, I feel sorry for everyone here. You all have to sell your old DSes and buy the DSi against your will. Tsk tsk. I'll keep playing on my old DS because I'm free of mind control!

Edit: And besides, who didn't see this coming? Durr, Sony did the same thing with the PSP-3000 and the TA-088v3 or whatever motherboards.