DSi incompatible with existing flash carts?

[lolzed]

lol,more resons why people won't buy DSi,guess most of us are sticking to DSLite,no?

 

[lcleong]

Fuck DSi! who care it anyway! ALL HAIL to DSLite!

 

[Gullwing]

I'm sure that flashcards are gonna be developed for the DS i too.... So people will buy it for sure....

 

[WildWon]

Erm, whats stopping flash-cart makers to update the firmware to be read in a different way? The DSi came out... this morning, was it? Give it a week (at MOST 2) before you freak out about not being able to use your flash carts. Have faith in the scene people. Shit'll be hacked in no time

 

[agentgamma]

Dude, you gotta be kidding me - none of the flashcarts work?
Nintendo really showed us now.
That's pretty fucking crazy - kudos to you, Nintendo.

Hopefully some DSi-compatible flashcarts will pop up at the time needed, but until then let everyone enjoy their Lite's and the stacks of flashcarts available.

SD Slots never helped pirates

 

[thegame07]

If new flash cards have to be made Nintendo are just giving the flash card makers more money. The question is will newer versions of the nds lite work with flash cards?

 

[Lumstar]

AFAIK DS is technically capable of region lock, but it was never used. Not even as a proof of concept.

 

[Destructobot]

Erm, whats stopping flash-cart makers to update the firmware to be read in a different way?

Mainly the fact that the firmware never gets a chance to run, because the DSi won't boot the carts in the first place.

 

[arctic_flame]

AFAIK DS is technically capable of region lock, but it was never used. Not even as a proof of concept.

It is technically possible. The GameCodes in the header contain a region flag.

 

[thegame07]

Some cards can be updated when not in the ds though.

 

[agentgamma]

The question is will newer versions of the nds lite work with flash cards?

They probably won't put effort into the DSL since they WILL kill it.
Give them about 2 months after release =P
They want to focus their energy on the iDS DSi

QUOTE(Haruhi @ Oct 31 2008, 12:56 PM) AFAIK DS is technically capable of region lock, but it was never used. Not even as a proof of concept.

It is technically possible. The GameCodes in the header contain a region flag.

Although they probably wouldn't =)
Think about it - Little Billy takes a DS with him to his trip to the US
Billys mother decides to buy him a game in the US for the long flight home.
If its region locked Little Billy will cry

Parent gets annoyed as DS game doesnt work.
Parent decides not to buy more DS games.
Nintendo see LESS money.

 

[WildWon]

Erm, whats stopping flash-cart makers to update the firmware to be read in a different way?

Mainly the fact that the firmware never gets a chance to run, because the DSi won't boot the carts in the first place.

I've worked with three separate cards over the past few months. CycloDS, Supercard DS-1 and DS-TT. Now, if i'm right, SC-DS1 & TT can be fully firmware upgraded w/out running the card. I mean, their info is all changed ON the micro-sd card. Now the Cyclo needs to run for the firmware to be updated... but whats stopping them from making a compatible update that you put into a DS or DSL and updated it, then it works with DSi as well?

 

[Destructobot]

whats stopping them from making a compatible update that you put into a DS or DSL and updated it, then it works with DSi as well?

As far as I know, the bit of code that boots the flashcarts and then loads the firmware cannot be overwritten (at least not on most flashcarts). This bit of code is what the DSi won't run.

 

[kitetsu]

Hmph. Well, tough shit, i guess. Waiting for a successful report won't kill me, unless it's Judgment Day tomorrow.

 

[Raven Darkheart]

well the way i see it. we have a year or so to figure this out stateside. and if no one does. we all stick with our DSL's for now.

its not like were short of games and need to get this on launch day

 

[go185]

There still might be hope for the AK2, AK-RPG, Ninjapass X9, and Ninjapass DS Flash!

Actually, a Ninjapass DS Flash/Ninjapass Junior might be something to try, as you can "burn" games to it and, at the DS main menu, appears as the game you burned and not as a flashcart.

 

[DjoeN]

Lucky i have enough original games to run on the DSi i pre-ordered from play-asia

(Black)

and it's not about pirating games on it, i buy it more for my collection of nintendo stuff

It's always fun to have something months before others do

 

[Raika]

It seems that most of the flashcarts we use are not compatible...

 

[RadioShadow]

Well Nintendo have put in a SD Slot in so it does mean hackers can work on a solution.

 

[shaunj66]

Also, importers please note that there is no English language option in the firmware - only Japanese, so be careful!