DS #2107: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings Of Fate (USA)

[DiNo29]

So, anybody tried with a slot2 supercard ?

 

[buddha-kun]

okay, im already at the Abandoned City, at around 50mins.... and still NO TIME OUT..

im using a ninjapass X9 btw, i'll keep on playing to see if its safe to say, this one's not 'affected'

 

[0xyG3N]

This one looks good

But i needda finish my other final fantasy first

If i finished that there will be another final fantasy :X

 

[FAST6191]

Works with no$gba 2.4c, just beat the first boss.
Probably not going to bother with a cart for a while though unless I fancy doing an undub.

 

[scubersteve]

This one looks good

But i needda finish my other final fantasy first

If i finished that there will be another final fantasy :X

Oxymoron FTW?
Same thing happened on forums when Final Destination 2 came out...

 

[Yigor]

copy protection seems to be something like a random md5 hash check, cause if you use the clean unpatched rom, you r able to play...
any patched, modified or in any other way changed rom dump wont work...

 

[0xyG3N]

This one looks good

But i needda finish my other final fantasy first

If i finished that there will be another final fantasy :X

Oxymoron FTW?
Same thing happened on forums when Final Destination 2 came out...

Oxymoron ?

 

[iNFiNiTY]

copy protection seems to be something like a random md5 hash check, cause if you use the clean unpatched rom, you r able to play...
any patched, modified or in any other way changed rom dump wont work...

Seems to make sense... the cards which patch on-the-fly and don't really run clean dumps are not going to work. So someone needs to disassemble the game, probably find where the 'Thanks for playing' text is called and just remove the check, or something similar to that i reckon anyway.

 

[Zucot]

copy protection seems to be something like a random md5 hash check, cause if you use the clean unpatched rom, you r able to play...
any patched, modified or in any other way changed rom dump wont work...

Did you verify this yourself? Does the 'unpatched' rom work on an R4?

I only saw one release, is there another version floating around?

 

[tjas]

somewhere I have a supercard cf! i will try that one

 

[Doggy124]

At first, I thought this protection is made for R4 (because of it famous as easiest way to play rom)
so other carts that has the same way to patch rom got the same result.

but M3Real and other carts may have other way to patch rom so they don't get any problem.

BUT.....if M3Real works
Why G6Real doesn't?
It share the same firmware.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Did you verify this yourself? Does the 'unpatched' rom work on an R4?

I only saw one release, is there another version floating around?

The R4 patches the game on-the-fly if you choose to or not AFAIK

 

[Doggy124]

copy protection seems to be something like a random md5 hash check, cause if you use the clean unpatched rom, you r able to play...
any patched, modified or in any other way changed rom dump wont work...

Did you verify this yourself? Does the 'unpatched' rom work on an R4?

I only saw one release, is there another version floating around?

I think he means unpatch option on SCDS.

 

[Saylient_Dreams]

Just wanted to add that this works on EzV carts, with hybrid mode and cheat mode off. Requires clean mode to work just like other carts. Also played it trimmed.

Why does everyone always assume it is "protection" rather than simply a compatibility issue? (Like those games that used a different mask ROM ages ago, which because the dumpers were not coded to compensate everyone assumed it was "protection"

.)

Sounds to me like there is a pointer to the pak file getting trashed somewhere along the way, maybe even directly to do with whatever is done to the ROM by very specific methods that make it work on unofficial hardware in the first place. Might even be a good test to see exactly which "teams" are snaking code from competitors...

I agree with cory1492, I don't think this is a copy protection. However if it is, it's targeted towards the way probably a general way how flash carts patch roms "on-the-fly." I knew getting an EzV would pay off at some point.

 

[Jesterace]

Safe mode + Trim Rom, I played the 20 minutes. Started from a save and so far so good on my G6 Lite.

 

[Ktaro]

umm has anyone tried to copy the japanese voices into it yet? is it easy or do you have to use a hex editor and complicated crap? what were the program you needed anyway I can't remember hmm...we wants original seiyuu!

 

[damon666]

working on M3 Real , as it should be . beated the first boss
and no crappy messages from the developers .

good work 'hugecock'

 

[BlueStar]

Does the 'unpatched' rom work on an R4?

This confusion is understandable because the R4 doesn't really run unpatched roms but you can put unpatched roms onto your microSD and play them on the R4. When you run those roms however the R4 patches them before it loads them into memory. Basically what we used to do on our PCs before transferring the patched roms onto our slot-2 supercard or whatever the R4 does itself within its operating system. But by the time the game runs it's not an unpatched, clean rom so any copy protection which checks if the rom has been modified will kick into action.

EDIT: So presumably this means the CycloDS truely runs clean, unaltered roms and that's why it can run this game fine? I saw people a back when the CycloDS came out trying to come up with solutions to check but I can't remember how it panned out. Only occasionally read the Cyclo forums because I don't own one

 

[iNFiNiTY]

This confusion is understandable because the R4 doesn't really run unpatched roms but you can put unpatched roms onto your microSD and play them on the R4. When you run those roms however the R4 patches them before it loads them into memory. Basically what we used to do on our PCs before transferring the patched roms onto our slot-2 supercard or whatever the R4 does itself within its operating system. But by the time the game runs it's not an unpatched, clean rom so any copy protection which checks if the rom has been modified will kick into action.

Yep, everyone just read this before asking anymore questions since it explains it all perfectly. Same applies to other carts which patches on-the-fly.

 

[Yigor]

copy protection seems to be something like a random md5 hash check, cause if you use the clean unpatched rom, you r able to play...
any patched, modified or in any other way changed rom dump wont work...

Did you verify this yourself? Does the 'unpatched' rom work on an R4?

I only saw one release, is there another version floating around?

theres no need to verify, just read the boards and use your brains... there is one person around here, which tried to undub the sound... read that and count 1+1...