Homebrew [Discussion] Next Smea release looks like it's gonna be a big one!

[bakurage]

I'm on N3DS 9.9, i'm hop full kernel exploit for dump my game, and playing whithout take my game cards, not install C.I.A. The DS Linker have kill my pleasur playing at DS, i buy 1 game per month or 2, it's good for me

 

[olshrimpeyes]

I honestly think that everyone knows that yellows8 and smea have access to kernel and arm9 and arm11 like srsly how do u think they modified the CPU speed and all that stuff....if somebody could get the permissions that the CPU has (maybe arm9?) We could possibly get full access to the system

You obviously don't know what your talking about. Controlling the CPU clockspeed is done by a service called PTM:sysm which is a userland service.

 

[dark_samus3]

That's not the point. They can be used to do illegal things. You could say "what about emulators in userland," userland exploits simply make the system Open Source. Just like Android.

Do you even know what you're talking about? The 3ds has never been and will never be Open Source... To clarify the difference between open and closed source lets take Android you can go to http://android.googlesource.com and all of Android's code is there and you can modify it and recompile it to do whatever you want it to do... The 3ds will stay closed source because Nintendo has always liked "proprietary" which ends up biting them in the ass a lot (we probably wouldn't have as much rampant piracy if they allowed us to run any userland code and gave us a small SDK or something). Open source means you me or anyone with access to the internet in the world can view, change and then possibly have their changes merged upstream (which means added to the original project basically). Anyways please refrain from talking about things you don't know much about

 

[Death78793]

There's no visible need for devs to find another kexploit aside from dynarec and other small goodies. Smea isn't too proud of what ninjhax 1 became, and now ninjhax 2/other hax have everything any AP dev could need and with the new update they have even more stuff coming their way.

 

[Garcia98]

That's not the point. They can be used to do illegal things. You could say "what about emulators in userland," userland exploits simply make the system Open Source. Just like Android.

I'm waiting for a CyanogenMod build for the 3DS.

 

[dark_samus3]

I'm waiting for a CyanogenMod build for the 3DS.

This just made my day... Thank you

 

[kiwiis]

There's no visible need for devs to find another kexploit aside from dynarec and other small goodies. Smea isn't too proud of what ninjhax 1 became, and now ninjhax 2/other hax have everything any AP dev could need and with the new update they have even more stuff coming their way.

There's enough legitimate reasons to want a kernel exploit. Smea does a lot for the community but his anti-piracy stance prevents things like romhacks (so far), dynarec, legitimate backups (I have a substantial collection of imports I'd like to preserve) and eShop spoofing. Competition is a healthy thing to have in any community. I don't think anyone can really say that the majority of big 3ds releases coming from one guy (and his circle of friends) is that healthy for the community. Don't take this as an insult to the guy (it isn't, he's awesome). I'm sure in time a kernel exploit will come for 9.3+, it's just going to be a long wait.

 

[Selim873]

Do you even know what you're talking about? The 3ds has never been and will never be Open Source... To clarify the difference between open and closed source lets take Android you can go to http://android.googlesource.com and all of Android's code is there and you can modify it and recompile it to do whatever you want it to do... The 3ds will stay closed source because Nintendo has always liked "proprietary" which ends up biting them in the ass a lot (we probably wouldn't have as much rampant piracy if they allowed us to run any userland code and gave us a small SDK or something). Open source means you me or anyone with access to the internet in the world can view, change and then possibly have their changes merged upstream (which means added to the original project basically). Anyways please refrain from talking about things you don't know much about

Yea, bad comparison. I know the official OS is closed. What I meant though was you can just write open source software for the 3DS now with the Homebrew launcher and the correct libraries. You couldn't do that with a fresh out of the box system, of course we'll need the homebrew launcher, which is also an open source software. I think a better example would be an exploited 3DS vs a jailbroken iPhone.

 

[SLiV3R]

Smealum or Yellows8 will never release any kernal exploit like everyone is saying.

That is Gateways business, remember?

 

[bakurage]

Smealum or Yellows8 will never release any kernal exploit like everyone is saying.

That is Gateways business, remember?

Gateway never relase any kernel exploit free, just for lunch gateway or play gateway on 10.X

 

[ValouIka]

Lunch Gateway? OMNOMNOMNOMNOM


Sorry.

 

[SLiV3R]

Gateway never relase any kernel exploit free, just for lunch gateway or play gateway on 10.X

Nope, I know. Its THEIR business like I said. But last time yifan_lu RE:ed so we had kernel access up to 9.2 instead of 4.5. The history will probably repeat

 

[olshrimpeyes]

There's enough legitimate reasons to want a kernel exploit. Smea does a lot for the community but his anti-piracy stance prevents things like romhacks (so far), dynarec, legitimate backups (I have a substantial collection of imports I'd like to preserve) and eShop spoofing. Competition is a healthy thing to have in any community. I don't think anyone can really say that the majority of big 3ds releases coming from one guy (and his circle of friends) is that healthy for the community. Don't take this as an insult to the guy (it isn't, he's awesome). I'm sure in time a kernel exploit will come for 9.3+, it's just going to be a long wait.

I think most of that is technically possible with just userland exploits, excluding backups of course. If they can get DSP working I'm sure you could get Dynamic Recompilation.

 

[bakurage]

Lunch Gateway? OMNOMNOMNOMNOM


Sorry.

:'(

 

[Death78793]

I think most of that is technically possible with just userland exploits, excluding backups of course. If they can get DSP working I'm sure you could get Dynamic Recompilation.

Yeah, not to mention that the backups thing is a real conflict for anyone, since it will end up being used for piracy (call it what you will; someone will use it to pirate)
Anyways, let's hope someone helps out with this since I would fancy myself some better emulators on my 9.9 n3DS

 

[kiwiis]

I think most of that is technically possible with just userland exploits, excluding backups of course. If they can get DSP working I'm sure you could get Dynamic Recompilation.

Hopefully. eShop spoofing would be a big one to have in case Nintendo closes these userland exploits (even if it's only a temporary stop), allowing people to stay on outdated firmware for HBL and still have access to the eShop.

 

[SomeGamer]

Hopefully. eShop spoofing would be a big one to have in case Nintendo closes these userland exploits (even if it's only a temporary stop), allowing people to stay on outdated firmware for HBL and still have access to the eShop.

And play online.

 

[teampleb]

Hopefully. eShop spoofing would be a big one to have in case Nintendo closes these userland exploits (even if it's only a temporary stop), allowing people to stay on outdated firmware for HBL and still have access to the eShop.

If we can modify game memory it might be possible. We'll have to see.

 

[TR_mahmutpek]

I'm waiting for a CyanogenMod build for the 3DS.

You are the best man... I am using CyanogenMod on Note 3...

 

[Arseface_TM]

Will this likely change how homebrew needs to be written, or will it use the same libraries, just updated?