Hacking Differences between PS1 and PS2 emus and PS2 CONFIG files question

[Windows_10_User]

What are the differences between ps1emu, ps1netemu and ps1newemu and between ps2emu, ps2gxemu, ps2softemu and ps2netemu? Do I need to install PS2CONFIG if running PS2 games on webMAN MOD to improve PS2 game compatibility?

EDIT: Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[godreborn]

ps2emu is for bc; ps2gxemu is for partial bc; ps2softemu is an early build of net emu without the licensing, and netemu is for ps2 classics. softemu is pretty rough if you've ever used it. it was supposed to take the place of gxemu I believe, but then sony got greedy and created netemu where you have to rebuy games.

 

[Windows_10_User]

ps2emu is for bc; ps2gxemu is for partial bc; ps2softemu is an early build of net emu without the licensing, and netemu is for ps2 classics. softemu is pretty rough if you've ever used it. it was supposed to take the place of gxemu I believe, but then sony got greedy and created netemu where you have to rebuy games.

Are those the only differences and can emulators be chosen when playing PS2 games? What do you mean by partial BC? How can I know which one I'm using? What about PS1 emulators and updating the XMB without rebuilding the PS3's database?

 

[godreborn]

I believe opening a game will refresh the xmb. you're talking about if you changed the name of a game or something, right? partial bc = a ps3 that is partially backwards compatible.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I believe opening a game will refresh the xmb. you're talking about if you changed the name of a game or something, right? partial bc = a ps3 that is partially backwards compatible.

No, for instance, I uploaded a PS3 game save to the PS3 and for it to appear on the XMB I always have to rebuild the PS3's database which takes some time and messes up the XMB categories. I know what it means but I thought the PS3 was BC or not. What does partial BC mean?

 

[godreborn]

for ps1 games, all ps3s are bc, but not for ps2 games. I think you can enter the game and it will update the save.

 

[Windows_10_User]

for ps1 games, all ps3s are bc, but not for ps2 games. I think you can enter the game and it will update the save.

Why are there different PS1 emulators? OK, but I want it to appear on the XMB without running the game and loading the game save and IIRC even if I ran the game, the game save wouldn't appear, at least if I had deleted the previous game save on the XMB.

 

[zfreeman]

What does partial BC really mean?

https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Emulation#Description

Emulation of Playstation 2 is currently handled by 3 kind of emulators. CECH-A/B models use ps2_emu.self able to use built-in PS2 hardware (EE/GS/Rambus memory), and have best compatibility. CECH-C/E use ps2_gxemu, this emulator use physical Graphic Synthesizer found in this ps3 model, but Emotion Engine is fully emulated here, also there is no Rambus memory. All other models emulate PS2 thru fully software based ps2_netemu used for ps2 classics, and hacked now to use decrypted ISO files. Earlier before Sony provided ps2 classics on PS Store there was another soft only emulator strongly based on ps2_gxemu. It was called ps2_softemu, and had support for original PS2 CDVD. Only emulator not able to run physical discs is ps2_netemu.

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Are those the only differences and can someone choose between emus (I guess not)?

https://rebug.me/official-rebug-4-84-2-rex-d-rex-cobra-8-1-toolbox-2-03-02-mar-29th-2019/

REBUG TOOLBOX 2.03.02 MULTI 16: (PS2 Emu swapper’s removed as this became obsolete since Cobra 8.1)

PlayStation 2 on NON-BC Consoles
Software (SW) Emulation:Support for PS2 ISOs in non BC consoles was removed in Cobra 4.30 (usb), due tops2_softemu missing. It has been re-enabled now by hacking of ps2_netemu. You can use it in the same way as before, just load an ISO and launch from disc icon, Cobra core takes care of rest. No need for encrypted isos, isos patched with limg sectors, etc. Just your normal PS2 isos dumped from discs. However, there is NO SUPPORT for Optical Discs in PS2_NETEMU.
Note 1: Don’t forget to set the memory cards in XMB, in the old memory card utility for PS/PS2, as ps2_netemu won’t let you assign them in game. As long as you use the new ps2 launcher.Note 2: Decrypted Config can now be used , place the CONFIG file in the same game path. An example below :
dev_hdd0/PS2ISO/God of WAR2.ISO
dev_hdd0/PS2ISO/God of WAR2.ISO.CONFIG

Decrypted CONFIG files are available via:
https://github.com/aldostools/webMAN-MOD/releases/download/1.47.25/PS2CONFIG.pkg

PlayStation 2 on BC and Semi-BC ConsolesHardware (HW) Emulation:
PS3 Models: CECHA, CECHB, CECHC and CECHE Backwards Compatible (BC) Consoles will still use their respetive emulators(ps2_emu, ps2_gxemu), which have much better compatibility and also support optical discs, original or backup.

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What are the differences between ps1emu, ps1netemu and ps1newemu

https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS1_Emulation#Emulator_versions

There is no accurate info in wiki about the different PS1 emulator .self revisions.

 

[Windows_10_User]

https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Emulation#Description

Emulation of Playstation 2 is currently handled by 3 kind of emulators. CECH-A/B models use ps2_emu.self able to use built-in PS2 hardware (EE/GS/Rambus memory), and have best compatibility. CECH-C/E use ps2_gxemu, this emulator use physical Graphic Synthesizer found in this ps3 model, but Emotion Engine is fully emulated here, also there is no Rambus memory. All other models emulate PS2 thru fully software based ps2_netemu used for ps2 classics, and hacked now to use decrypted ISO files. Earlier before Sony provided ps2 classics on PS Store there was another soft only emulator strongly based on ps2_gxemu. It was called ps2_softemu, and had support for original PS2 CDVD. Only emulator not able to run physical discs is ps2_netemu.

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https://rebug.me/official-rebug-4-84-2-rex-d-rex-cobra-8-1-toolbox-2-03-02-mar-29th-2019/

REBUG TOOLBOX 2.03.02 MULTI 16: (PS2 Emu swapper’s removed as this became obsolete since Cobra 8.1)

PlayStation 2 on NON-BC Consoles
Software (SW) Emulation:Support for PS2 ISOs in non BC consoles was removed in Cobra 4.30 (usb), due tops2_softemu missing. It has been re-enabled now by hacking of ps2_netemu. You can use it in the same way as before, just load an ISO and launch from disc icon, Cobra core takes care of rest. No need for encrypted isos, isos patched with limg sectors, etc. Just your normal PS2 isos dumped from discs. However, there is NO SUPPORT for Optical Discs in PS2_NETEMU.
Note 1: Don’t forget to set the memory cards in XMB, in the old memory card utility for PS/PS2, as ps2_netemu won’t let you assign them in game. As long as you use the new ps2 launcher.Note 2: Decrypted Config can now be used , place the CONFIG file in the same game path. An example below :
dev_hdd0/PS2ISO/God of WAR2.ISO
dev_hdd0/PS2ISO/God of WAR2.ISO.CONFIG

Decrypted CONFIG files are available via:
https://github.com/aldostools/webMAN-MOD/releases/download/1.47.25/PS2CONFIG.pkg

PlayStation 2 on BC and Semi-BC ConsolesHardware (HW) Emulation:
PS3 Models: CECHA, CECHB, CECHC and CECHE Backwards Compatible (BC) Consoles will still use their respetive emulators(ps2_emu, ps2_gxemu), which have much better compatibility and also support optical discs, original or backup.

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https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS1_Emulation#Emulator_versions

There is no accurate info in wiki about the different PS1 emulator .self revisions.

I've read about a PS2 blue disc icon on the XMB instead of the gold one (the only one that I saw). Is it true?

 

[zfreeman]

I've read about a PS2 blue disc icon on the XMB instead of the gold one (the only one that I saw). Is it true?

Blue just denotes that the PS2 disk image is a CD, like ICO. Later, PS2 games were pressed on DVD (gold). Black = PS1, etc.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Blue just denotes that the PS2 disk image is a CD, like ICO. Later, PS2 games were pressed on DVD (gold). Black = PS1, etc.

This PSP Minis Launcher doesn't appear in this page. Isn't it odd? Also, why does the former page have one PSP Remasters launcher and the latter has 4? Is the former page's PSP Remasters Launcher an updated version of one of the latter page's 4 PSP Remasters launchers?

I had to install prepNTFS and run it for webMAN MOD to find all the games on the external HDD NTFS partition (and it seems I have to keep running it) and I have to restart the PS3 every time I add or/and delete a game since after updating the XMB on webMAN MOD, games still don't appear.

Can I mess with the PS3 when webMAN MOD is copying a PS2/PSP ISO to the PS3's HDD?

 

[zfreeman]

I use this for PSP: PSP Remasters Launcher MOD [atreyu187] v2.00

webMAN MOD seems like it needs the database rebuilt for each change, but maybe there's an easier way I haven't realized yet.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I use this for PSP: PSP Remasters Launcher MOD [atreyu187] v2.00

webMAN MOD seems like it needs the database rebuilt for each change, but maybe there's an easier way I haven't realized yet.

Should I install the PSP launcher you mentioned and delete the one I have? I was able to run a PSP game with one of Brewology's PSP launchers.

Also, no matter what I do, webMAN MOD freezes my PS3. I formatted the HDD, reinstalled CFW, reinstalled webMAN MOD and changed webMAN MOD's memory usage settings to no avail.

EDIT: I was told webMAN MOD already comes with CONFIG files (those installed by PS2CONFIG) for the PS2 ISOs and that PS2CONFIG is mainly needed on PS3HEN with encrypted PS2 games (which are in the ENC format and they're also inside the PKG one [the official PS2 Classics also have encrypted PS2 games inside the PKG file]) mounted by webMAN MOD so I don't need it since I have CFW and I don't have encrypted PS2 games (except inside some official PS2 Classics [the PS2 games I tried were in the ISO and BIN/CUE formats]).

EDIT 2: It seems webMAN MOD's "Auto CONFIG" setting automatically looks for the matching CONFIG file in ManaGunZ's MANAGUNZ0 folder (I didn't even install ManaGunZ) and in webMAN MOD's UDPWEBMOD folder. If the PS2 ISO or BIN/CUE already has a CONFIG file associated, that file is used without having to perform said search. ManaGunZ allows to create CONFIG files.

EDIT 3: I stopped using PSP launchers and started playing PSP games on the PS TV since the latter is more compatible with PSP games than the PS3.

EDIT 4: I bought an used PS3 since the previous stopped reading BRs, installed webMAN MOD and it hasn't been freezing my PS3 so maybe it was the previous PS3's HDD's fault. Anyway, I got used to IRISMAN, so I uninstalled webMAN MOD again. To fix the PS2 games mentioned here so that they can be played on CFW without (or with less) issues after being mounted by IRISMAN, their respective CONFIG files have to be downloaded from here, they have to be renamed them so that their names match the games', their names also have to have ".iso"/".bin (if the "iso"/"bin" filename extension is in lowercase) or ".ISO"/"BIN" (if the "BIN" filename extension is in uppercase) before "CONFIG" to work and they have to be in the same location as the corresponding games (in the PS3's PS2ISO folder), like @zfreeman says. These CONFIG files can also increase frame rate in some PS2 games and they're the CONFIG files installed by PS2CONFIG (I deleted the latter since I have CFW and not PS3HEN, use IRISMAN and not webMAN MOD and I don't have encrypted PS2 games [except inside some official PS2 Classics]).

EDIT 5: Apparently, all PS1 emulators have harcoded PS1 game configurations, ps2_emu, ps2_gxemu and ps2_softemu have hardcoded PS2 game configurations and only ps2_netemu can load PS2 game configurations from an external file.

EDIT 6: I installed PS2 ISO Launcher and it's actually called PS2 Classics Placeholder, installed PS2 Launcher REBUG and it's actually called PS2 ISO & Classics Launcher and installed webMAN MOD's Brewology's/GitHub repository's PS2 Classics Launcher and it's actually PS2 Classics Placeholder (maybe an updated version of it). I deleted all of them.

EDIT 7: I converted a PS2 ISO to ENC using PS3 Tools Collection's PS3 PS2 Classics GUI, uploaded it to the PS3's PS2ISO folder, ran it using IRISMAN and it said PS2 Classics Placeholder must be installed so I installed it again. After running the game again using IRISMAN, it asked if I wanted to copy the PS2 image to PS2 Classics Placeholder so I did it. It took some time and then IRISMAN asked if I wanted to exit to XMB to launch the mounted game with PS2 Classics Placeholder and I did it. Finally, I ran PS2 Classics Placeholder and it ran the game. The "BIN" filename extension (as well as the "ENC" one) can't be deleted or IRISMAN won't recognize the game. The PS2 game is still mounted in the PS2 Classics Placeholder even after restarting the PS3 and deleting the game on the PS3's PS2ISO folder (when copying the PS2 image to PS2 Classics Placeholder, it copied the ISO.BIN.ENC file to "/dev_hdd0/game/PS2U10000/USRDIR"). Also, what are the advantages of the encrypted PS2 games? Are they more compatible than BIN/CUE and ISO ones? Anyway, I deleted PS2 Classics Placeholder. PS2 ISO Launcher's Brewology page says it's used to launch PS2 ISO or PS2 Classic format games (on the ENC format, not on the PKG one, since apparently this term [PS2 Classic format] is used in the homebrew scene to refer to encrypted PS2 games) on non-BC PS3 CFW enabled consoles so it's for my PS3, whose model is CECH-2004B and has Evilnat CFW installed. PS2 ISO Launcher isn't needed to launch PS2 ISOs since IRISMAN and other backup managers can already do it in my PS3. PS2 Launcher REBUG's Brewology page says it's the equivalent to PS2 Classic Placeholder since they both do the same.

EDIT 8: I gave webMAN MOD a new chance and before reinstalling it I removed IRISMAN. The "webMAN games" setting was empty with my external HDD connected to the PS3, which is odd. I disconnected it, restarted the PS3 and it wasn't empty. I installed prepISO and use it to scan the external HDD connected to my PS3 every time I make changes to my PS1 and PS3 games (which are now in the same partition) since the external HDD is formatted as NTFS. Also, I wasn't being able to connect the PC to the PS3 via FTP using FileZilla Client and webMAN MOD until I did this. WebMAN MOD already comes with PS2 CONFIG Database installed which contains CONFIG files.