Hacking Devolution - Public Release

[wiismodrome]

Once again, Devolution's AP is not able to verify a clean, genuine, disc. This time it is XGIII: Extreme G Racing. While Rogue Leader shows five quick flashes when the disc is inserted, then hard locks the Wii, XGIII: Extreme G Racing does not flash the drive LED after reading the disc. It just locks up the Wii.....

Strange how other people (including myself) are able to use these games without any problems. Perhaps you have neglected to mention some modifications that have been made to your specific wii.

Not sure what you might be suggesting. Neither game will verify in my Wii with no hardware modifications involved.

 

[wiismodrome]

I've also tried Star Wars: Rogue Leader (Rogue Squadron 2) and I have the same issue as wiimodesyndrome. Just ripped the game with CleanRip 1.04, put it into the "games" folder and tried to run it with Devolution. The slot blinks twice at a time until i put the disc in. It verifies then flashes 5 times. It freezes afterwards and I have to power off the Wii. The DVV file "GSWE00.DVV" is full of zeroes instead of the usual encryption.
Maybe it is because it is the earliest version of the disc? (1.00)

EDIT: Forgot to mention its the US NTSC version of the game. Also, the bottom of the disc says "DOL-GSWE-0-00 JPN"

Thanks. I was doubtful that I would be the only one affected by this. There must be a flaw in the program.

Most of my other (retail) discs seem to be working. So, I am not sure what it is about the AP which is locking up with certain discs and not others.

 

[wiismodrome]

Well I've tried all 35 of my gamecube games on devolution and I'm happy to say that only 6 don't work at all. Those are:

Star wars rogue leader
Wave race blue storm
Luigi's mansion
F-Zero GX
Extreme G3
Pokemon XD gale of darkness

Note that three of the games mentioned above (Wave Race: Blue Storm, Rogue Leader, XGIII) are not working for me either. This suggests an incompatibility with specific games, or perhaps specific releases of certain games.

 

[PatrickD85]

Ok notices the disc for;
Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 2
Rogue Leader 2
were a bit well ... they have seen better shape some smudges on them

Sonic Gems hmm my backup disc is well a disc should be one piece right ... this one is two.
So need to get that game from storage later to test it.

So cleaned the others as best as I could reripped them with Cleanrip:
and all three are now at 1.425.760 kB

So now converting them for Dios Mios, if that fails ill check with devolution.

 

[wiismodrome]

Well, hate to burst your bubble but, I have very different results.
Waverace bleu storm does not work here with devolution PAL version.
Metroid prime 2 and TP I have ZERO isseus with using devolution or Dios Mios.

Okay.... apparently both PAL and NTSC-US versions of Wave Race: Blue Storm are not working for some people. MP2 worked for me, but had rendering errors with text (very difficult/impossible to read the characters).

 

[kylster]

Got a question.... How good is compatibility vs using Dios Mios; and which MIOS needs to be installed for it to work: cMIOS/MIOSv10?

Another question: Can you use NMM with this?

It uses it's own Virtual Memory card setup if you lack a real Memory Card.
Compatibility well though to answer as I use Devolution only for audio streaming games and games I have issues with on Devolution.
I would suggest using both then compatibilty is really really high.

Ok, so this can be run using DM wad installed? or do I need to use the latest cMIOS and just re-install either one depending on the games I want to play?

 

[PatrickD85]

So retested the games:

Dios Mios > Metroid Prime 2 Echoes > Now works so was a bad rip
Did not test on Devolution

Dios Mios > Star Wars Rogue Leader 2 > Now works so was a bad rip
Did not test on Devolution

Dios Mios & Devolution - Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess > Now works so was a bad rip

So make sure if you rip for either Dios Mios or for Devolution that the file size is what it should be!

Only left to test my Resident Evil collection.

Besides that all games work from USB with audio streaming only game I have an issue with: Virtua Striker 3
On Dios Mios it loads and all ... but without audio streaming
On Devolution ... it hangs at a white screen with actual memory card and at saving with virtual Memory card.
Sadly nog USB Gecko here so i can not tell you any more info about that error.

If that can be somehow fixed though ... then im likely to run all my NGC titles of the HDD

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[Hielkenator]

First I want to thank tueidj for making this loader. I was never big on using sneek/uneek in order to get dios mios working so having this way to play my backups is greatly appreciated. unfortunatly I don't have a USB GECKO to help out but this is what I've gotten from testing out my games via usb:

Works without known problems: (all US games)
Eternal darkness
Skies of Arcadia
Paper mario thousand year door
Sonic gems collection
Virtua quest
Resident evil 0 (except second disk always loads as the first)

Works with minor graphical glitching: (all US games)
fire emblem (character portrats flash when loading new text; sometimes temporaraly changing to a reddish coloured mix)
Geist (multiplayer works without issue, single player has full screen flashing [black pulsating appearance] whenever loading data)
Tales of symphonia (Some text has what appears to be a reddish overlay [options menu for checking text speed and anything in the bottom right where you push the "A" button like "Examine" or "exit" prompts. Also occurs during a skit but only for it's title while being played out.)

Unplayable: (all US games)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4 (hangs at loading screen [before the title screen])
GUN (Progessive mode will send you back to HBC where if disabled will hang [both problems occur at loading screen before title screen is displayed])

All multi-disk games have an odd problem where only the first disk is loaded even if I choose disk 2 in the loader. both resident evil 0 and tales of symphonia do it.

Unfortunatly I don't have a usb gecko so thats as much as I can do. If nobody is able to get the problem game dumps by months end I might buy one with my paycheque in order to help out further but I'm more or less posting this here for others to verify and give more info since I can't right now.

You know that you don't need sneek/ uneek for dios-mios right?
Anyway, love devolution so far but dios-mios is quite on par, to be honest.
I'll only be ripping my favourite games to hdd, since 100 GC games is'nt worth the space, and takes to much time.
Anyway, cleanrip seems to be inconsistent sometimes, and I don't want to stress my wii....

 

[kylster]

Spoiler

So retested the games:

Dios Mios > Metroid Prime 2 Echoes > Now works so was a bad rip
Did not test on Devolution

Dios Mios > Star Wars Rogue Leader 2 > Now works so was a bad rip
Did not test on Devolution

Dios Mios & Devolution - Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess > Now works so was a bad rip

So make sure if you rip for either Dios Mios or for Devolution that the file size is what it should be!

Only left to test my Resident Evil collection.

Besides that all games work from USB with audio streaming only game I have an issue with: Virtua Striker 3
On Dios Mios it loads and all ... but without audio streaming
On Devolution ... it hangs at a white screen with actual memory card and at saving with virtual Memory card.
Sadly nog USB Gecko here so i can not tell you any more info about that error.

If that can be somehow fixed though ... then im likely to run all my NGC titles of the HDD

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[tueidj]

All multi-disk games have an odd problem where only the first disk is loaded even if I choose disk 2 in the loader. both resident evil 0 and tales of symphonia do it.

That's not a bug, it's intentional.

 

[SifJar]

Got a question.... How good is compatibility vs using Dios Mios; and which MIOS needs to be installed for it to work: cMIOS/MIOSv10?

It doesn't matter, Devolution makes no use of MIOS, it runs completely on IOS (which is how it attains full hardware access, including USB and bluetooth)

 

[tueidj]

Not sure what you might be suggesting. Neither game will verify in my Wii with no hardware modifications involved.

Initially I purchased a Wiikey 2 which works well with Wii games, but is incompatible with audio streaming GC games, giving "an error has occurred" message. My second attempt was with the Wiizard, which does play audio streaming games, though not correctly - segments of streamed audio are erroneously repeated. Next I tried swapping in a D2B drive board. Unlike with D2C2, Wiikey 2 is able to play audio streaming games with D2B, but still causes intermittent errors and exhibits the same repeating audio issue as the Wiizard.

Finally, I had a friend flash a PIC chip with YAOSM 3.2 and did a wired install. YAOSM 3.2 has no issues with audio streaming games - everything works perfectly.

"no hardware modifications"? Sounds like your wii's insides have been poked around more than Paris Hilton.

 

[wrettcaughn]

All multi-disk games have an odd problem where only the first disk is loaded even if I choose disk 2 in the loader. both resident evil 0 and tales of symphonia do it.

That's not a bug, it's intentional.

Nice work on the app tueidj. It might help though, to take an extra 15 seconds when replying to questions/issues and explain why. Especially when replying to the people who aren't pissing and moaning about AP.

 

[wiismodrome]

"no hardware modifications"? Sounds like your wii's insides have been poked around more than Paris Hilton.

YAOSM is disabled. As I said, no hardware modifications are involved. Other retail discs load/verify. Only specific discs fail.

BTW, several other users have reported issues with the AP with many of the same games.

 

[PatrickD85]

@tueidj ah ok intentional ... but more as in you need to verify both discs prior to playing or?
Just wondering as I'm going to test my Resident Evil games in a bit.
Thanks in advance for your reply.

 

[tueidj]

You are assuming it's an AP problem. Nobody has given any logs and the same games work fine for myself and some other people.

 

[J-Machine]

All multi-disk games have an odd problem where only the first disk is loaded even if I choose disk 2 in the loader. both resident evil 0 and tales of symphonia do it.

That's not a bug, it's intentional.

So what I do is load a save that is for the second disk and press eject when it asks for it? Just wondering since when I try to use slot 2 for my real mem card (official one) it will notice it is there but tells me it is corrupted so I'm unable to try it myself.

 

[Hielkenator]

You are assuming it's an AP problem. Nobody has given any logs and the same games work fine for myself and some other people.

Gecko is the only way to log?

 

[wiismodrome]

You are assuming it's an AP problem. Nobody has given any logs and the same games work fine for myself and some other people.

And do not work for several other people....

As stated earlier, I have an SD Gecko, not a USB Gecko. If there's something I can do with that, I will do it. I could even send you a problematic disc in the mail if that helps.

 

[tueidj]

So what I do is load a save that is for the second disk and press eject when it asks for it? Just wondering since when I try to use slot 2 for my real mem card (official one) it will notice it is there but tells me it is corrupted so I'm unable to try it myself.

Slot B being unusable is a bug that should be fixed in the next build.

Gecko is the only way to log?

At the moment yes but I'm working on something else.