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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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Both sides deny science whenever it suits them, and science isn't the talking head on your fav cable news channel...

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If you are talking about science, the way it works is that someone comes up with a theory and then they test it out to see what is true. Tribal folk from all walks of life cant grasp this at all.
There isn’t a “both sides,” this has been between people who are listening to professionals and people who believe conspiracies without creditable sources.
Calling something reliable. Doesn't make it reliable. Look up Kary mullis.
Actually that is exactly what has been going on, shockingly enough.
Decided to entertain you and found out that he’s being misquoted by idiots online
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN24420X
 
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Reuters totally unreliable..Who fact checks the fact checkers.
https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/
https://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/?amp=1
https://www.aap.com.au/pcr-inventor...y-his-test-wont-work-for-covid-19-infections/
That’s just some of the results from Googling and no results backing up the false claim. Please provide a source to back your claims, I did my part and actually googled him.
 

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Both sides deny science whenever it suits them, and science isn't the talking head on your fav cable news channel...

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If you are talking about science, the way it works is that someone comes up with a theory and then they test it out to see what is true. Tribal folk from all walks of life cant grasp this at all.
Not exactly. Scientists come up with a hypothesis, test it, and if it's well-established to be true, it becomes a scientific theory/fact.

Please give me a specific example of "my side" denying science. I am a skeptic first and foremost, and I don't deny science.
 

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https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/
https://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/?amp=1
https://www.aap.com.au/pcr-inventor...y-his-test-wont-work-for-covid-19-infections/
That’s just some of the results from Googling and no results backing up the false claim. Please provide a source to back your claims, I did my part and actually googled him.[/QUOTE
Instead of looking up these shady websites. Look up the actual source, and like I said use your brain.
 

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Instead of looking up these shady websites. Look up the actual source, and like I said use your brain.
Provide the sources or be dismissed, I did my end of the deal and looked him up. Either you have sources for your claims or your claims complete garbage and you should be disregarded.
 

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I've already provided a few.

The false dilemma of "take the shot or you are killing people" is still utter shit btw.

The survival rate before the vaccine was overall between everyone sitting at 99.8%. I wonder what it is now that the vaccine has been released. This not-so-deadly illness was used as a tactic for mass control and look how easily people allowed themselves to be sheep. It's sad really.
 
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Not exactly. Scientists come up with a hypothesis, test it, and if it's well-established to be true, it becomes a scientific theory/fact.

Please give me a specific example of "my side" denying science. I am a skeptic first and foremost, and I don't deny science.
GMOs, nuclear power, male-female differences and normally anti vaccine folks are left wing. Its all related to confirmation bias, people just deny what they don't want to be true. You also have to remember a large portion of social scientists are self proclaimed Marxists, Marxist theories are often easy to spot because they read more like parables from the bible than an actual scientific study. It's actually scary how mainstream anti science from the left is, you cant even question their theories without being attacked.

I also want to note that mainstream media only pretends to be left wing, they only look that way compared to lets say Newsmax or Fox News. They love this illusion, then you can't go further left then they are without being crazy (this is also why they like to focus on social issues their sponsors don't actually care about).
 
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I've already provided a few.

The false dilemma of "take the shot or you are killing people" is still utter shit btw.
If you don't take the shot, you are dramatically increasing the odds of contracting the virus and spreading it to others. If you're spreading it to others, you are in fact potentially causing people to get sick and die. Those are facts.

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GMOs, nuclear power, male-female differences and normally anti vaccine folks are left wing. Its all related to confirmation bias, people just deny what they don't want to be true. You also have to remember a large portion of social scientists are self proclaimed Marxists, Marxist theories are often easy to spot because they read more like parables from the bible than an actual scientific study. It's actually scary how mainstream anti science from the left is, you cant even question their theories without being attacked.

I also want to note that mainstream media only pretends to be left wing, they only look that way compared to lets say Newsmax or Fox News. They love this illusion, then you can't go further left then they are without being crazy (this is also why they like to focus on social issues their sponsors don't actually care about).
COVID-19 anti-vaxxers are disproportionately right-wing.

Please give me an example where I have denied science.
 
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If you don't take the shot, you are dramatically increasing the odds of contracting the virus and spreading it to others

This is a fake fact. Not taking the shot doesn't increase odds. This false logic is the crux of your false dilemma of "take the shot or you are killing people", which is utter shit.

Not investing in Gamestop made me poor. :(

I mean... I mean... relatively. Please don't be so disingenuous and argue for the sake of arguing.
 
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