Hacking Can we use USB port on docking station for hacking?

[bobovieri]

Hello everybody,
I have a brand new switch with 3.0 firmware. I wanna hack it, starting with the backup of my nand.
So I'm gonna use Hekate. I'm following a tutorial, all seems very easy, but I need to connect the switch to the PC.

I don't have a USB C cable.

I know the switch docking station has a USB C plug for the switch, and 3 USB A ports.
Can I connect the switch to the PC through a USB A docking port to run hekate and inject payloads?

I think the answer is gonna be no, but why?

 

[Techjunky90]

I've also been wondering the same thing. There's a thread on here about installing a mod chip in the dock. Using a pc to send a payload is sending the payload over the usb d+ & d-. The question is, will the dock pass the d+ & d- signal to the switch, or does the dock send a signal to the switch first, then the switch send a signal back to the dock to enable the usb ports & hdmi output. A handshake. Obviously the dock sends some type of signal which tells the switch that it is docked, which enables the higher clock speeds and what not.

 

[coffinbirth]

Because RCM is triggered with the joycon rail pins and a button combo that is disabled in docked mode. Having a usb-c cable and/or dongle is just how it is currently done.

 

[Techjunky90]

Because RCM is triggered with the joycon rail pins and a button combo that is disabled in docked mode. Having a usb-c cable and/or dongle is just how it is currently done.

You are half right, you forget about auto rcm

 

[coffinbirth]

You are half right, you forget about auto rcm

You have to be able to put it into rcm first, lol.
OP asked if he could do it without a USB-C cable, which you currently cannot.
That is wholly right.

 

[EmulateLife]

You can get a C Cable for like $7, at least in U.S. at Walmart.

 

[Techjunky90]

You have to be able to put it into rcm first, lol.
OP asked if he could do it without a USB-C cable, which you currently cannot.
That is wholly right.

Wrong again, putting a switch in rcm mode has absolutely nothing to do with having a usb c cable.

 

[tbb043]

You can get a C Cable for like $7, at least in U.S. at Walmart.

I got one for $5 at Five Below, granted I already had one that came with the pro controller, but just saying, if you have a Five Below, good place to get a USB cable.

 

[EmulateLife]

I've never heard of Five Below lol. Good price.

 

[TunaKetchup]

You need a USB C to launch the payload

No matter what

 

[Techjunky90]

You need a USB C to launch the payload

No matter what

Or a dongle, mod chip etc. That still does not answer the question. Can a payload be sent through the dock usb ports. My guess is no one knows because no one has tried it.

 

[hippy dave]

Or a dongle, mod chip etc. That still does not answer the question. Can a payload be sent through the dock usb ports. My guess is no one knows because no one has tried it.

Not quite, but you can modify the dock: https://gbatemp.net/threads/modchip-dock-modification-with-samd21.521301/

 

[Techjunky90]

Not quite, but you can modify the dock: https://gbatemp.net/threads/modchip-dock-modification-with-samd21.521301/

Like I said, no one has tried it. If you look at the last couple of comments on that thread you'll see that me & op are discussing it. I suspect that a payload can indeed be sent via the docks usb ports.

 

[Sonikkua]

Sure. I’m powering my Raspberry Pi using the Switch docks USB port, and I use that to auto inject payloads when I plug my Switch into the Pi.

That counts right?

 

[Techjunky90]

Sure. I’m powering my Raspberry Pi using the Switch docks USB port, and I use that to auto inject payloads when I plug my Switch into the Pi.

That counts right?

Does not count. Op wants to send the payload through the docks usb. Basically, power your pi from the dock, then connect the pi usb to the dock usb and send the payload that way.

 

[link42586]

Can't wait till years down the line and all switch systems are hackable or close to it and it'll be so easy. Always happens just watch. What we have now is never what we end up with in hacks.

 

[teelo]

Can't wait till years down the line and all switch systems are hackable or close to it and it'll be so easy. Always happens just watch. What we have now is never what we end up with in hacks.

We need a "predict the future" thread. Eg: I predict someone will figure out a glitch that will get RCM to pull a payload off the SD card.

 

[Techjunky90]

We need a "predict the future" thread. Eg: I predict someone will figure out a glitch that will get RCM to pull a payload off the SD card.

That won't work on mariko when it releases. Probably won't be such a thing as rcm

 

[thesjaakspoiler]

No, that won't work because the USB-A ports on the docking station not directly connected to the Tegra cpu.
The dock contains a seperate cpu that acts as a usb hub as far as I know.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

But your idea does bring something more interesting to mind :
Instead of putting a modchip/trinket inside the Switch itself,
can't we put it into the docking station with a nice switch to turn it on/off?
Much more space in there....

 

[link42586]

Just sayin. Can't predict the future..But more exploits are out their and more will be found. I been at it A long time with modding and it never ends with the same exploits that it starts with. I can't think of one system that the first hack was the best/last. Usually the worst. But this is A big exploit so don't mess up your hackable switches. Gonna be hard to get another one day. Unless what I say is true.