Hacking Best Way to Mod Any Wii: ModMii for Windows: Official Support Thread

[iDarkTrace]

... If I had this BEFORE I foolishly updated my Wii to 4.3j, I would saved myself a whole bunch of trouble...

Crap.

 

[bigboss50]

Hey nice app xflak I got a new wii and now I installed HBC did the NAND backup (didn't allow boot 2

) did express install of IOS36 but the system menu 4.2 wad (upgrading from 4.0E) doesnt install and I don't want to continue after what happened next time so what should I do?
EDIT: I re-downloaded it a few times successfully but it doesn't install 4.2E this is the list of WADS I need to install I'm starting from the top don't want to try installing the rest before 4.2 just in case...

* System Menu 4.2E
* IOS11v257(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS20v257(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS30v2817(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS50v5121(IOS50v4889[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS60v6401 (IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS70v6687[FS-ES-NP]
* cIOS202[57]-v5
* cIOS223[37-38]-v4
* cIOS222[38]-v5
* cIOS224[57]-v5
* cIOS249[57]-v19
* cIOS250[37]-v19
* cMIOS-MPv0.2-v4
* Mii Channel (Region Free)
* IOS9v778
* IOS12v269
* IOS13v273
* IOS14v520
* IOS17v775
* IOS21v782
* IOS22v1037
* IOS28v1550
* IOS31v3349
* IOS33v3091
* IOS34v3348
* IOS35v3349
* IOS37v3869
* IOS38v3867
* IOS53v5406
* IOS55v5406
* IOS56v5405
* IOS57v5661
* IOS61v5405

 

[XFlak]

Another Idea: Could you maybe add an "Clean-Update-Mode" which downloads all unmodified IOS for a clean "Ninty-Like" Update?
Something like "Emulate 4.2 Update" or so.no way! there's a reason why people say NOT to update via nintendo. An official update could kill a regionchanged Korean wii, or stub cIOSs... not to mention that if I were to have it emulate an update it would always grab the most recent version of files, which would mean every time ninty puts out an update, NUSAD users would be at risk.

If u want to DL only the updated IOSs, just use the wizard, say u are starting to 4.2 and ending on 4.2, and say no to the other options, and it will only grab the active unmodified IOSs (note that IOS70 will be patched). Also note that these are NOT the most recent IOSs that came out with the 4.3 update, those IOSs just make it more difficult to hack your Wii with no extra benefit (NUSAD v4.1.5 will also have IOS58 available for download)QUOTEAnother Question: Do you/someone else may knows why the Hashes of:
-xzxero Guide-Wads
-NUS Downloader 1.4Beta-Wads
-and NUSAD Wads
are all different?

Is this because of using other "inside" tools to pack the WAD-Files?
Correct, but these aren't "inside" tools (they are available to all), but each app used to pack wads or dump wads may have a different method of doing so. Some may timestamp wads, so even if u use the same program twice it would yield different hash just because it was packed at different times.

So which WADs are the best packed ones, nearest Ninty Quality?
They all contain the same content, so one is not better than the other

Honestly, I don't understand why the hash checks are functioning differently for me than it is for some users. Every time I download things from NUSAD it works perfectly (0 errors), and if I force an error, it always lists which files are missing or changed.

If I could replicate the problem, I think I could fix it, but I just can't seem to make NUSAD fail (which I would normally consider a good thing)

edit:
@bigboss, try installing IOS70 before installing the 4.2E SM wad

edit2:
I'm using the wizard to download 42 files, right now @ #18, so soon we shall see if I get good hash or not

 

[User423]

@xFlak

Thanks for the Answers! I think it´s ok to not add an option like that. And I think you´re right about the different methods to pack the WADs. (It sounds plausible)

About the HashCheck, maybe it´s a x86/x64 problem, some have it, some not?

 

[hdhacker]

I didn't see a response to this, but if the shopping channel needs a patch to work with older firmwares, it would be nice to include that, too.

 

[fischju]

I got the NUS Downloader Beta 1.4 and used it to download some of the files that failed...they still failed, they both have different CRCs. Tried to replace it with the file from update.zip courtesy the other softmod thread. Different CRC than either of the other two. Still failed.

 

[XFlak]

Ok, my test got bad hash, I am repeating the downloads to see if I get consistent hash (if so, then the solution is simply to update the MD5 database for all the changed files). I suspect that older versions of IOSs that were updated in the 4.3 Update have changed (on Nintendo's servers).

This could be a simple change, like a timestamp, or something noting that it is no longer the most recent version.... I'm not sure why nintendo would change older files since official updates only grab the latest versions anyways.

If I get consistent hash, this will be a quick fix, and I can even upload a custom.md5 file for people to temporarily use to check the hash until v4.1.5 is released

Downloading #18 of 42 right now, I will know more when it is finished (then I will have to download ALL the files again twice to confirm consistent hash.

FYI, it is worth noting that even though I got MD5 mismatch's, the files were EACH identified... so it is still weird to me why it is not identifying the files causing error's for some users

edit: note that the hash signatures of IOSs grabbed by NUSAD will not necessarily match the hash from NUSD or the modify.zip or update.zip, this is because of how the files are packed, but the contents of the files are still the same (so don't expect to be able to replace a wad DL'd by NUSAD with one grabbed from NUSD and expect it to pass the hash check). In other words, despite the fact that the hash signatures of the files differ, they will both do the exact same thing to your wii if installed.

As a side note, I've been told numerous times that it is pointless to have a hash check in NUSAD. This is because while a wad is being packed, it is performing a hash check in and of itself. If just one of the component files is not EXACTLY as it should be, the wad will not be able to be packed. And if by some miracle a BS wad is somehow packed, it will not be able to be installed on the wii due to similar checks. Note, that I am not 100% sure how this process happens, but I have been informed by people much smarter than me (like GiantPune and cwstjdenobs) that this is basically how it operates.

Downloading 36 of 42 now...

edit2:
DeadlyFoez said it best

Hey man. I'm getting errors with downloading with NUSAD also now. Nintendo must have changed some code in the older IOS's or something. I can confirm that 4.1.4 worked perfectly fine a few days ago, but now errors, so it is obviously not because of your app. The only thing that could have changed was nintendo files. Weird.

 

[NashV]

Trying to softmod my wii today and getting these errors too, downloading straight to C:\NUS
Windows 7 x64, no internet problems

 

[XFlak]

can some1 with bootmii as boot2 please install a couple (or all) of these changed files and check if they still work properly?

Specifically, can some1 download cIOS222v5 and install it, and see if it works with a USB loader or something like that... this will help me a lot as I don't have access to a Wii ATM

also, it should be noted, that since some archived/outdated IOSs have changed somehow, it is possible even cIOS installers may have difficulties using changed IOSs (like IOS38) as bases

@ everyone, please refrain from going nuts posting about hash check errors, I'm working on it as fast as I can, but I have a very slow internet connection and I am still on vacation (I think I am already spending too much time on this SH*T as it is, lol). If someone can confirm that these changed files files still work the same as they did a few days ago, then I can safely say these files are safe to install despite their changed hash signatures

 

[bigboss50]

I'm not having hash check problems but can someone help me with this please
I installed HBC did the NAND backup (didn't allow boot 2 ) did express install of IOS36 but the system menu 4.2 wad (upgrading from 4.0E) doesnt install and I don't want to continue after what happened next time so what should I do?
EDIT: I re-downloaded it a few times successfully but it doesn't install 4.2E this is the list of WADS I need to install I'm starting from the top don't want to try installing the rest before 4.2 just in case...

* System Menu 4.2E
* IOS11v257(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS20v257(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS30v2817(IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS50v5121(IOS50v4889[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS60v6401 (IOS60v6174[FS-ES-NP])
* IOS70v6687[FS-ES-NP]
* cIOS202[57]-v5
* cIOS223[37-38]-v4
* cIOS222[38]-v5
* cIOS224[57]-v5
* cIOS249[57]-v19
* cIOS250[37]-v19
* cMIOS-MPv0.2-v4
* Mii Channel (Region Free)
* IOS9v778
* IOS12v269
* IOS13v273
* IOS14v520
* IOS17v775
* IOS21v782
* IOS22v1037
* IOS28v1550
* IOS31v3349
* IOS33v3091
* IOS34v3348
* IOS35v3349
* IOS37v3869
* IOS38v3867
* IOS53v5406
* IOS55v5406
* IOS56v5405
* IOS57v5661
* IOS61v5405

 

[XFlak]

@big boss, I think u posted this already, plz don't double post

as I suggested earlier, make sure u install IOS70 successfully, then retry installing SM 4.2. I believe if u batch install them, MMM and YAWMM will both know to install the SM IOS before the SM (YAWMM for sure), but if u try to install them one-by-one, it will not allow u to install the SM without first having the SM IOS installed first

 

[XFlak]

Here's a Q for the wii geniuses out there...

I unpacked 2 different IOS38-64-v3867's, one grabbed from NUS before 4.3 and one after. I then analyzed the differences between the 2 and have concluded only 2 files have changed (I'm pretty sure that the same conclusions apply to all the archived IOSs that have been updated)
1) the *.cert file (note, this file is found in all IOS wads and is the same, just named differently)
2) the *.tik file (edit)

I'm not sure how they changed... but I do know that they have changed. I am concerned that ninty may have somehow applied their vulnerability security patches retroactively to all outdated non-stubbed IOSs specifically to counter apps like dop-mii, MMM and NUSAD that may download older vulnerable files off their servers

edit: Upon further analysis, I've determined that the content of the cert files has merely been re-ordered... I'm not sure what this means though

@anyone with brains and bootmii @ boot2 who is also willing to run some tests, please PM me, but basically I'd like to see if installing these old changed files behave differently than they should

edit: I should also note that this is the first time IOSs have been updated since I've been analyzing them... so for all I know, this happens to all older versions of an IOS when an update for it is released. If this is the case, then w/e changes have been made are probably negligible

 

[The Real Jdbye]

It's a nice idea, but you should make a proper GUI if you want it to be noob-friendly.

 

[Madridi]

I unpacked 2 different IOS38-64-v3867's, one grabbed from NUS before 4.3 and one after. I then analyzed the differences between the 2 and have concluded only 2 files have changed (I'm pretty sure that the same conclusions apply to all the changed files)
1) the *.cert file (note, this file is found in all IOS wads and is the same, just named differently)
2) the *.tmd file

I'm not sure how they changed... but I do know that they have changed. I am concerned that ninty may have somehow applied their vulnerability security patches retroactively to all outdated non-stubbed IOSs specifically to counter apps like dop-mii, MMM and NUSAD that may download older vulnerable files off their servers

Interesting? Is this for real? They actually changed the versions they had on their servers?
This complicates things..

 

[XFlak]

Upon further analysis, I've determined that the content of the cert files has merely been re-ordered... I'm not sure what this means though

edit: cert's and tik's have changed, not cert's and tmd's (my bad)

edit2:
@sorrycostello, a GUI is being developed... may take a long while before anything is released, for a sneak peek check THIS out

 

[Madridi]

If thats the case and only that, then its probably nothing. Its just interesting that they actually bothered to do so

 

[XFlak]

If some1 could perform this very easy and safe test I would really appreciate it

-use NUSAD to download IOS38, ignore the md5 mismatch errors (make sure it is saved to the root of the sd card)
-also download wanin's cIOS rev19 Installer (also available via NUSAD)
-run the cIOS installer on the Wii and use it to install cIOS with base 38

then just see if it installs successfully, if it does, test the cIOS using a USB Loader or any app and report whether it works normally or not

one other thing:
if its not too much trouble, I would also appreciate it if you could pack the cIOS into a wad using bluedump (non-fakesigning version) and PM me with it (so that I can unpack it, and see if its cert and tmd differ from a cIOS made using older original base IOSs)

if u know what u are doing, this all should only take 5-10 minutes, I would really appreciate it if someone could do this for me. Thanks.

 

[Madridi]

FYI XFlak, Afaik when it comes to packing cIOS, I seem to remember having read once that it doesnt matter which version of bluedump to use.

 

[XFlak]

If it helps, here are snapshots of the tiks opened in a hex editor

Spoiler

Original IOS38-64-v3867 tik (before 4.3 Update)

New IOS38-64-v3867 tik (after 4.3 Update)

 

[nerdirama]

Oh my!

Korean Region Changed Wii are safe or not on 4.3 Systemmenu update? It uses IOS80 right? Error 003 again?
Nothing wrote about it yet.

HEEELP!