Another weekly maintenance, no fix

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by Myria, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. Myria
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    It's been another weekly maintenance, and Nintendo still hasn't fixed memchunkhax2.1. Anyone want to wildly speculate on what has happened?

    My uneducated guess is that Nintendo management told the programmers not to spend so much time on 3DS security for what is now a lost cause due to arm9loaderhax.
     


  2. ihaveamac

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    we don't need a new thread each time Nintendo does server maintenance, thanks.

    also they're probably focusing on the NX now, especially given how broken-open the 3DS is (and it's not just arm9loaderhax).
     
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  3. jimmyleen

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    Come on folks how about we let sleeping dogs lie eh?
     
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    Considering we now have a bunch of different entry points - Cubic Ninja, Super Mystery Dungeon, Smash, and OoTHax, I think Nintendo just gave up on trying to update their stuff. Plus, they need the resources to develop for the NX now.
     
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    My thread is more about how it's been an unusually long time that a hack leading to full compromise (via downgrade) has been available.
     
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  6. chaosrunner

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    cuz ppl at nintendo use a9lh and they dont want to update it anymore
     
  7. Disharmony16

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    Yeah
     
  8. Just Passing By

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    Can't tell if this is a joke or not, but are you serious? The people that made the console have to exploit their own console for some reason is basically what you're saying. What is beneficial with a9lh that the people at Nintendo can't already do? Unbricking? Check. Cia installing? They have dev consoles. Signature patching? So far they're the only ones that can sign anything legitimately.

    There's a higher chance they've given up then this. Even if there are pros, you have to remember the Nintendo is a company to make money, not one that caters to its employees.
     
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  9. Harvest God

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    Hopefully, Nintendo will learn from their mistakes when creating the NX, if not well there goes another +1 Million
     
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    i was not serious but they could be using it who knows maybe so they can fix a brick
     
  11. Ricken

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    I need 10.8. NintyFW is SOOOOOO Stable!

    Now i want to make a troll thread but im busy setting up A9LH on a friend's system
     
  12. Lilith Valentine

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    I am 90% sure Nintendo has just given up on the 3DS and they are just going to turn their focus onto a new product. At this point, if the nerds are right, there's no way to remove A9LH, so updating isn't going to fix it. And unless they update OoT (which is highly unlikely since they didn't even bother updating the Nintendo Select version,) it seems like we will always have an entry point. Nintendo is checkmated on this one.
     
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    they should at least give back Browserhax/Menuhax/Tubehax/Ninjhax1.0/Ironhax/ET CETERA
     
  14. Lilith Valentine

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    Give the hackers time, it took forever for 10.3 to be supported, but it eventually happened.
     
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  15. zoogie

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    I don't think Nintendo has forgotten about the 3ds and moved on. What's most likely happening is they're working on a really comprehensive and secure fix, and not some half-ass measure like before. Remember, this general arm11 exploit (memchunkhax) has been re-exploited twice. They don't want to be embarrassed again. (Nintendo: here's a hint, fix being able to downgrade by just getting the AM service)
     
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    HUSH DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS
     
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  17. Lilith Valentine

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    No matter how much Nintendo works on it, there's always going to be someone who finds away around it. It didn't take long for someone to find an exploit for 10.4+ and it won't take them long for the next exploit.
    Hell with hardmod, exploits are being found even faster.
     
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  18. zoogie

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    It's worth their while to make things harder even though there will likely be new exploits. Easy piracy is more damaging than complex piracy.
     
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  19. Lilith Valentine

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    This late in the game, there's not much damage that can be done. They didn't suffer much for the first few years and it was those strong years that kept the system afloat. At this point, they aren't going to get much out of the system.
    Really, it would be best to just finish the system off now and start focusing on something new.
     
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  20. zoogie

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    As long as Nintendo's still releasing Pokemon games for the 3ds (they are o/c), they will still care at least a little bit about piracy's affect on sales. :P

    The real question is: how much does Nintendo lose in extra engineering costs vs. how much they lose in lost game sales and dev confidence in a secure platform (this is important for future platforms). I would suspect having a few decent sec engineers working on the issue a couple months is cheaper than losing any significant amount of sales.

    There is also the issue of online cheating, although I'm not sure if it really affects Nintendo's bottom line that much.
     
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