Hacking An interesting rumor about the 3DS...

[koji2009]

The reason why DS flashcarts have been so easy to get working on the 3ds is because of how completely broken the DS protection is. There is very little nintendo can do because if Nintendo's protection is too stringent, it will break playback for LEGIT users which would be a huge PR nightmare. Really, all nintendo can do right now is use a combination of white and black lists (white lists are a list of games that are acceptable, black lists are a list of games that are unacceptable) and indeed that's all the protections currently are for both 3DS and DSi to prevent DS flash carts.

3DS games, however, have an updated and more sophisticated copy protection system. There won't be any 3DS flash carts till the game encryption has been cracked... which means exploiting some sort of flaw in the 3DS firmware.

 

[Qtis]

You need to read the DMCA before you speak.

Which is only in use in the US and thus doesn't affect the rest of the world (even though people may think so and the lobbyists in the US want so).

The DMCA is something that is veeerry strict in terms of usage and somehow the iPhone jailbreak does not classify as a violation of the DMCA? Don't DS flashcarts do the same thing (just like the ps3 jailbreak)? Talk about an easy law to interpret..


-Qtis

 

[pachura]

The reason why DS flashcarts have been so easy to get working on the 3ds is because of how completely broken the DS protection is.

Also, there's not much point. DS is dead now, less and less people will be buying original DS games, especially to be played on 3DS. Game studios are not really loosing much money due to DS flashcards working on 3DS.

 

[Rydian]

For the people saying "It's mine, not theirs, I can do whatever I want to it" You need to read the DMCA before you speak.So if you install linux on your machine Dell has the right to remotely brick it?

QUOTE(Qtis @ Mar 18 2011, 09:35 AM) The DMCA is something that is veeerry strict in terms of usage and somehow the iPhone jailbreak does not classify as a violation of the DMCA?

It did, but then was named as an exception.
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/Librari...-Statement.html

 

[megawalk]

wow how ridiculous if that was the case i would set up a private log system and make a crash on the 3ds (asap) and then immediately link it to my system

 

[mysticwaterfall]

I seriously cannot believe people are still taking this seriously. The whole thing is a FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) tactic to scare people into not using flashcards. That's all. The original NES (and every system since then) has had warnings about "unauthorized accessories". Technically, even a third party controller is an "unauthorized accessory". Let's not forget how Nintendo tried really hard to shut down the Game Genie. They lost in court. Did that stop them from saying that the Game Genie was dangerous? No, they still tried to scare people into not using it (I know GG/AR/Whatever can corrupt saves, but you get the point). It's the same thing. Can we let this and the dozen other threads about it die already?

 

[Rydian]

This is the main one, so it's gotta' stay open so when the 54th person links the 16th site spreading the rumor we can confirm for the 500th time it's bullshit.

 

[Xuphor]

This is the main one, so it's gotta' stay open so when the 54th person links the 16th site spreading the rumor we can confirm for the 500th time it's bullshit.

You're underballing it, I would say more like 1000 times

It'll persist even after the 3DS comes out in Europe and America.

 

[dgwillia]

Still, even if the remote bricking thing is false, whats up with the whole retailers not rebuying them? That seemed fairly legit

 

[doodads]

I could believe that, though I wouldn't doubt a way around it. But if that's the only consequence than I personally can't say I'd care.

 

[Rydian]

Still, even if the remote bricking thing is false, whats up with the whole retailers not rebuying them? That seemed fairly legit

That's one retailer. Notice that everybody's pasting the same notice in their report.

 

[Slyakin]

Still, even if the remote bricking thing is false, whats up with the whole retailers not rebuying them? That seemed fairly legit

That's one retailer. Notice that everybody's pasting the same notice in their report.

Yeah, I'm sure that Gamestop doesn't give a damn about your 3DS.

"Hey, he's trading in his 3DS!"
"OH SHIT BRO, FREE MONEY!"

 

[machomuu]

You need to read the DMCA before you speak.

Which is only in use in the US and thus doesn't affect the rest of the world (even though people may think so and the lobbyists in the US want so).

The DMCA is something that is veeerry strict in terms of usage and somehow the iPhone jailbreak does not classify as a violation of the DMCA? Don't DS flashcarts do the same thing (just like the ps3 jailbreak)? Talk about an easy law to interpret..


-Qtis

Moreover, The 3DS is Japanese and because NoA didn't create the 3DS, I don't think it would apply to us USians either.

 

[haddad]

I hope this rumor stays a rumor

 

[Xuphor]

I hope this rumor stays a rumor

I'm pretty sure everyone on these forums does, unless there is some 3DS haters here who are only here to convert people to NGP.

 

[epicCreations.or]

I'm hoping this is strictly a "reseller won't take it" thing, because I almost never trade in my consoles. It usually isn't worth it.

Although, just to have a backup plan, I'll buy the game my AK2i will pretend to be, get 100%, and if they ask any questions, I'll load it up for them

You need to read the DMCA before you speak.

Which is only in use in the US and thus doesn't affect the rest of the world (even though people may think so and the lobbyists in the US want so).

The DMCA is something that is veeerry strict in terms of usage and somehow the iPhone jailbreak does not classify as a violation of the DMCA? Don't DS flashcarts do the same thing (just like the ps3 jailbreak)? Talk about an easy law to interpret..


-Qtis

Moreover, The 3DS is Japanese and because NoA didn't create the 3DS, I don't think it would apply to us USians either.

Wait wha-
I lol'd.

 

[vhunter]

This is the main one, so it's gotta' stay open so when the 54th person links the 16th site spreading the rumor we can confirm for the 500th time it's bullshit.

Funny stuff man. (no sarcasm intended)

I'm also thinking this is BS for the stated reasons in this thread and the fact that Nintendo would loose a significant amount of hardware sells. If you can pirate on the NGP and not the 3ds that would make it a selling point much like the 360 and the ps3 a while back.

 

[Evo.lve]

They're not going to check.

They don't check if a tradein system boots up, or if a case has the bloody game inside it.

What makes you think they're going to check this?

 

[dgwillia]

Pretty sure hackability would boost sales. (Obviously not game sales, except for the target groups). I mean, look at the PSP GO

 

[Xuphor]

http://nintendo3dsblog.com/proof-nintendo-...-want-you-to-do

OH SH......CRAP!!!

Please people,
It's just a scare tactic, this has been in EVERY Nintendo game's EULA since GCN, almost word for word.