I've googled for a while and tried a few things to fix this on my nephews PS3 but have got nowhere so far. Anyway, I'm a n00b with the ps3 as I don't own one myself, but modded one recently that had this problem with some games. I hoped that it was a BD Drive issue so I dumped one of the problem games (Fallout:New Vegas) to an external HDD and tried to load it but again got the 80010017 code from the ext hdd too. My nephew doesn't have the internet so he doesn't care about psn etc, but he has about 15 games that wont work from the disc...I kinda hoped dumping them and running them from usb would sort the problem I dumped 3 of his games that work from disc and they all play fine from ext hdd. The mods done so far are... 1- upgraded to 3.55, 2- installed Kmeaw_Fw, BDemu and multiman (latest). If anyone has had this problem and knows how to fix it, I'd really appreciate some tips to get it sorted, the error as far as I can tell seems to be a dirty/damaged disc code or faulty BD..... so why will they not work from (external) hdd ? *EDIT* Copying it from external to internal as I type, will try again, then redump straight to internal. - Didn't work copied from ext to int...will redump straight to internal... Redumped it to the internal HDD and when launching it with multiman I now get a new error.... 80010514 Tried to restore the FS (option 3 on the recovery menu) as I read it might help...it didn't c'mon someone not so n00by must know how to fix this ?? Well the wee mans away now so I'll need to wait a while to get the PS3 back, it can't be the BD drive though if the games don't work from HDD can it ? Unless the didn't rip correct...hmm. Anyway, this seems to be a common unsolved problem, lets hope someone can post info to solve the strangeness. When I get the PS3 back I'll try more things and post what worked, didn't work and what I tried. SUMMARY ------------ Warning: Spoilers inside! PROBLEM Get ERROR 80010017 from some games (EG Fallout:New Vegas) from BD disc, not for other games. Googling the ERROR code suggests that there is a problem with the BD drive unit. To solve this we will try to load it from a HDD ? TRIED Ripped the game to INTERNAL HDD > loaded with MultiMan (with and without an original in the drive) > ERROR 80010514 > (suggests that there is a problem with the BD drive unit) Ripped the game to EXTERNAL HDD > loaded with MultiMan (with and without an original in the drive) > ERROR 80010017 > (suggests that there is a problem with the BD drive unit) Tried to restore the FS (option 3 on the recovery menu) > Didn't help ! OTHER When I get it back I'll try ??? Ripping the game on another PS3 (well...get another rip of the game) maybe the drive is faulty and is not ripping it correctly ? Is there maybe something needing installed ?? Should I try other loaders ?