3DS or NGP (PSP2)

[Haloman800]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

this post doesnt say nintendo fanboy at all

Even so, the point he's trying to get across is that Nintendo has strong 1st party releases on all their consoles pretty quickly after release... Not so much with Sony apparently.

 

[machomuu]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. While I do enjoy OoT more than Uncharted, they're two games you can't really compare as they're almost nothing alike. Also, it's not really fair to have both Kid Icarus and OoT against just Uncharted.

Also, while I love Nintendo (and am falling out of love with Sony) I'm not going to defend Sony, but I won't let you attack them with baseless conjectures.

 

[Joe88]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

this post doesnt say nintendo fanboy at all

Even so, the point he's trying to get across is that Nintendo has strong 1st party releases on all their consoles pretty quickly after release... Not so much with Sony apparently.

they showed uncharted, little big planet, killzone, resistance, wipeout, and a bunch of 3rd party games
and probably expect more at e3

I dont know how this isnt good first party support
we will probably be seeing a gow and ratchet and clank, jak and daxter, or sly cooper game at e3

 

[awssk8er]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. While I do enjoy OoT more than Uncharted, they're two games you can't really compare as they're almost nothing alike. Also, it's not really fair to have both Kid Icarus and OoT against just Uncharted.

Also, while I love Nintendo (and am falling out of love with Sony) I'm not going to defend Sony, but I won't let you attack them with baseless conjectures.

Of course it was my opinion. Obviously, I wasn't trying to say that is the case for everyone.

I'm just trying to say games always come first when picking a handheld, and right now the 3DS has better games. That could change.

 

[machomuu]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. While I do enjoy OoT more than Uncharted, they're two games you can't really compare as they're almost nothing alike. Also, it's not really fair to have both Kid Icarus and OoT against just Uncharted.

Also, while I love Nintendo (and am falling out of love with Sony) I'm not going to defend Sony, but I won't let you attack them with baseless conjectures.

Of course it was my opinion. Obviously, I wasn't trying to say that is the case for everyone.

I'm just trying to say games always come first when picking a handheld, and right now the 3DS has better games. That could change.

Sorry, I get carried away when I go into "Ace Attorney" mode. I didn't mean to be so mean, sorry.

 

[Slyakin]

Which one is gonna be more successful? The PSP2, definitely. It's gonna release near or at Christmas and annoying 12 year olds are gonna be automatically attracted to things like Uncharted and Call of Duty.

Nintendo isn't being very smart this generation. They've held the monopoly for too long, I guess. When they crumble/fall, maybe some other company will step up and stuff.

It's like the Sonic 360 scenario all over again.

 

[DigitalDeviant]

Ehh. I can't pick, because we still know very little about the PSP2.


Which one is gonna be more successful? The PSP2, definitely. It's gonna release near or at Christmas and annoying 12 year olds are gonna be automatically attracted to things like Uncharted and Call of Duty.

Nintendo isn't being very smart this generation. They've held the monopoly for too long, I guess. When they crumble/fall, maybe some other company will step up and stuff.

It's like the Sonic 360 scenario all over again.

I learned that the NGP's game cards will be rewritable

"New Game Medium
NGP adopts a new game medium, a small, flash memory based card, dedicated for NGP software titles. Taking advantage of the flash memory feature, this innovative card can store full software titles plus add-on game content or game save data. By adopting a flash memory based card solution, SCE will be able to provide game cards with higher capacity in the future, allowing developers to store more game data to deliver rich and immersive games."
source in info box

 

[machomuu]

It's like the Sonic 360 scenario all over again.

Talk of any Sonic console game is damnable!

 

[Wombo Combo]

Kind of seeing PSP2 doing better in the long run but I got to have my Nintendo fix also.

 

[sKeEt]

Which one is gonna be more successful? The PSP2, definitely. It's gonna release near or at Christmas and annoying 12 year olds are gonna be automatically attracted to things like Uncharted and Call of Duty.

Nintendo isn't being very smart this generation. They've held the monopoly for too long, I guess. When they crumble/fall, maybe some other company will step up and stuff.

It's like the Sonic 360 scenario all over again.

If you don't mind me asking exactly how has Nintendo not been smart this generation? Seems to me they are the only ones being smart.

 

[Goofy Time]

3DS, if only for the fact the NGP is probably going to be expensive as sin.

Also, if the games cost $60, I hope people pirate the system to high hell. No fucking handheld platform should have games costing the same as console games. This is an growing problem with the industry, and it's precisely why people pirate anyway.

 

[FrankensteinTank]

Initially, I'm going to get the 3DS because I have always purchased Nintendo handhelds and they've never disappointed me. I had a PSP and it seemed like only a couple good games would come out a year and the battery would just die even when not playing it. However, I wouldn't object to getting the PSP2 because it has great potential with the dual analog sticks and graphics. This, of course, would depend on the pricing and game lineup for the PSP2 in the end.

 

[codmaster]

NGP:Nintendo Got Pwned

 

[DigitalDeviant]

NGP:Nintendo Got Pwned

I knew someone was going to say this, this fanboyism is appearing all over the internet.

How were they "pwned" if nintendo's strategy is to use existing (moderetely) inexpensive technologies to produce a great gaming environment? The DS outsold the PSP when even then people were saying "ZOMG look at how powerfull the psp is, DS is crappy" boy were they wrong. I suspect a similar reaction and effect. Unless of course sony sell the NGP for less or equal to 3DS. My two cents.

 

[zizer]

This is a dangerous thread . nintendo is nintendo .... sony is sony

 

[Ikki]

NGP:Nintendo Got Pwned

What an unimpressive post coming from a person with that username.



QUOTE(Goofy Time @ Jan 28 2011, 02:40 PM) No fucking handheld platform should have games costing the same as console games.

And why is that? What makes a handheld less than a home console? The pricing is (or should be) set by how much it costs making the product. Not by how big the hardware you shove the media in is.

 

[The Albino]

Voted Other. I'm getting both.

 

[Sterling]

NGP:Nintendo Got Pwned

What an unimpressive post coming from a person with that username.



QUOTE(Goofy Time @ Jan 28 2011, 02:40 PM) No fucking handheld platform should have games costing the same as console games.

And why is that? What makes a handheld less than a home console? The pricing is (or should be) set by how much it costs making the product. Not by how big the hardware you shove the media in is.

Consoles are much more powerful. The reason handhelds have been so under powered when compared to their home console counter parts is because they cost so much money to make. Believe it or not in the world of electronics, price doesn't go down the smaller parts get, it goes up, sometime exponentially. The NGP is the most powerful handheld to date. Trumps the 3DS in almost every technical aspect, and is just about an inch larger than the PSP1000. Another way to think about it is that Nintendo always prices their systems to make a profit off of them. So if a 3DS costs $150 per unit to make, and I pay $250 dollars (which I am), they are making a $100 profit. Games will be cheaper because they won't have to make up for losses. Say the NGP sells for $350. The unit costs $400 per unit to make. They lose $50 per sale, and consequentially games must be more. Also since the games are on rewritable flash media, the cost of making the actual cartridge has just went up around $10. Increasing Costs further. To what? Only break even? Then you'll have to possibly pay for the online services to further make up for profit loss. I can already tell, Sony is about to start extorting as much as Microsoft. Get ready guys.

Oh yea, this isn't taking into account the licensing fees and such for the media capabilities we know it's going to have. I can see they are also going to rely on word of mouth and hype for advertising because I figure they aren't going to risk losing more money on advertising.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

NGP:Nintendo Got Pwned

I knew someone was going to say this, this fanboyism is appearing all over the internet.

How were they "pwned" if nintendo's strategy is to use existing (moderetely) inexpensive technologies to produce a great gaming environment? The DS outsold the PSP when even then people were saying "ZOMG look at how powerfull the psp is, DS is crappy" boy were they wrong. I suspect a similar reaction and effect. Unless of course sony sell the NGP for less or equal to 3DS. My two cents.

Huge +1 to this. People never seem to learn anything from history. Sony has obviously not learned anything from the ps3, psp1, or even the original gameboy. The PS3 is in dead last this generation for costing too much at first and not bringing anything new to the table. The PSP finished far below the DS because of high price and few and far between A games. Go back too original Gameboy. It was black and white but beat out color systems. Why? a) price b) games c) cost of ownership (battery life, game prices, etc).

 

[Hadrian]

Nintendo isn't being very smart this generation. They've held the monopoly for too long, I guess. When they crumble/fall, maybe some other company will step up and stuff.

The same was said before the DS was released.

I'm going for the 3DS seeing it'll offer games that won't be on other consoles, Nintendo have a knack of leaving their own titles on the console they were on. I am interested in the NGP but chances are most of its great games will be ported to the PS3 which will become cheaper anyway. They did this with some of the PSP titles on PS2 but they didn't do too well seeing everyone moved on, PS3 still have at least 4 years left on it.