3DS or NGP (PSP2)

[petspaps]

Before we start am already well aware with the previous thread, but lets focus this one more squarely around the new systems.

3DS Specs

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Size (when closed): Approximately 5.3 inches wide, 2.9 inches long, 0.8 inches tall.
Weight: Approximately 8 ounces.
Look: The design is pretty much finalized.
Top Screen: 3.53-inch 15:9 LCD display, enabling 3D without the need for special glasses; 800x240 pixel resolution (400 pixels are allocated for each eye to enable 3D viewing).
Touch Screen: 3.02-inch LCD with 320x240 pixel resolution with a touch screen.
Cameras: One inner camera and outer camera with 640x480 (0.3 Mega) pixel resolution. The outer camera has two lenses to allow 3D pictures to be taken.
Pre-Installed Software: Software that is known to come with the 3DS at this time are, camera software, Augmented Reality Games, Mii Studio, Nintendo 3DS Sound, StreetPass Mii Plaza, and an Activity Log.
Nintendo 3DS Game Card: Can hold 2GB. Looks like a DS Game Card with plastic at the top right side.
Wireless Communication: Multiple Nintendo 3DS systems can connect via a local wireless connection to let users communicate. Systems also can connect to LAN access points to access the Internet and allow people to enjoy games with others. Will support IEEE 802.11 with enhanced security (WPA/WPA2). Nintendo 3DS hardware is designed so that even when not in use, it can automatically exchange data with other Nintendo 3DS systems or receive data via the Internet while in sleep mode.
Game Controls: Touch screen, embedded microphone, A/B/X/Y face buttons, + Control Pad, L/R buttons, Start and Select buttons, "Slide Pad" that allows 360-degree analog input, one inner camera, two outer cameras, motion sensor and a gyro sensor.
Other Controls: 3D Depth Slider to adjust level of 3D effect (can be scaled back or turned off completely depending on the preference of the user), Home button to call system function, Wireless switch to turn off wireless communications (even during game play)
Input/Output: A port that accepts both Nintendo 3DS game cards and game cards for the Nintendo DS™ family of systems, an SD memory card slot, an AC adapter connector, a charging cradle terminal and a stereo headphone output jack.
Sound: Stereo speakers positioned to the left and right of the top screen.
Battery: Lithium-ion battery
Languages: Not yet known.
Parental Controls:It will have Parental Controls. The extent of it is not yet known.
What's in the Package? The Nintendo 3DS will come packed with a charging stand, an AC adapter, a stylus, a 2 GB SD card, and 6 AR cards used for games using AR technologies.

NGP Specs

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CPU: ARM Cortex-A9 core (4 core)
GPU: SGX543MP4+
Dimensions: Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)
Screen: Touch screen 5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED, Multi touch screen (capacitive type)
Rear touch pad: Multi touch pad (capacitive type)
Cameras: Front camera, Rear camera
Sound: Built-in stereo speakers, Built-in microphone
Sensors: Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass
Location: Built-in GPS, Wi-Fi location service support
Keys/Switches: PS button, Power button, Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left), Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square), Shoulder buttons (Right/Left), Right stick, Left stick, START button, SELECT button, Volume buttons
Wireless communications: Mobile network connectivity (3G), IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode), Bluetooth 2.1+EDR (A2DP/AVRCP/HSP)
More details to be released

Achievement systems

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3DS will use Mii's, there has been some discussion and nintendo reps have said that the 3ds will not have a built in achievement system, however some devs are saying that there will be achievements, Nintendo may incorporate this in a later date.
NGP will use PSN's with trophies, trophies from PS3 are tranferable

Graphics

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3DS uses glassless 3D based graphics with a depth slider, games run at around 30 fps with 3D and 60 fps in 2D.
NGP's graphics are closer to the PS3's, far closer to that, this is aided by the 5 inch oled touch screen. This is based on preliminary viewing

My Opinion 3D gaming isnt really worth is but the 3DS has still exited me so i will be going with that.
What do people think?

-Edit Achievements and My Op

 

[+jump;+duck]

can't we have to vote for both?

 

[RoMee]

I vote other. why??
because this is stupid, I'm getting both
both wins

 

[petspaps]

if you wallets big enough put that as other

 

[monkat]

3DS will use Mii's and an unknown achievement based system

Where did you hear that?

Ninty has gone on record and said that the 3DS will not have achievements (they didn't say that they wouldn't add them later on, but y'know), but that they are not against achievements.

 

[Windaga]

I'm not sure about achievements across the board (like with the 360), but this guy seems to suggest that there will be achievements - at least in Madden or in EA Sports games; something like the Wii Sports Resort stamps, I assume. But yeah, Nintendo's said no achievements for the time being.

“Basically, the way the games are designed is they’re designed for you to explore the game yourself and have this sense of discovery. To that end, I think that when you look specifically at games from EAD and a lot of other games that Nintendo has developed a well, there are things you can do in the game that will result in some sort of reward or unexpected surprise. In my mind, that really encourages the sense of exploration rather than the sense of ‘If I do that, I’m going to get some sort of artificial point or score that’s going to make me feel better that I got this.’ And that, to me, is I think more compelling.”

- Bill Trinen, Nintendo of America

Any way, the 3DS is more appealing for me because of the games coming out on the system, but I'll hopefully manage to have both in my hand some day.

 

[TheTwoR's]

3DS!!!!!!!! (duh)

 

[Depravo]

Out of the two I'd choose the 3DS. Nintendo exclusives beat Sony exclusives any day.

 

[Ikki]

The 3DS will not have an achievement system, Super Street Fighter IV will (I think, it's SSF, it may be another title).

And about the question. It will be PSP vs DS. NGP will have flashy stuff for casuals while the 3DS will win since it has more actual content and is more child friendly.

 

[KinGamer7]

3DS for me. The software line-up is incredible, and the system itself is looking brilliant. I've never been disappointed with Nintendo's handhelds before, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Hop2089]

3DS has Gundam

Nintendid what Sony Didn't.

3DS ftw although I want both.

 

[petspaps]

Ohk i had read somewhere that the 3DS would use some sore of an achievement system with it, i was unsure if it was trophies or stamps or points but i did read that nintendo would be incorporating something along those lines into the system.
-Edit
I have researched this and have edited above, some devs are saying yes to some sort of achievement or score system and there have been reports saying nintendo reps have stated at launch there probably will not be an achievement based system built in. I believe it was a german rep that had stated in on an interview when demoing the handheld.

 

[mad567]

3Ds firstly
and when the prices are going to drop down i'll buy a psp2

 

[heartgold]

As a handheld all it needs is decent graphics and over the top won't buy me. The reason i pick 3ds is because i'm looking forward to 3D experience and graphics are perfect, who cares they are not ps3 standard visual, its a flipping small screen just needs modern display to keep you hooked and pokemon is on it

 

[It'sLuigi64]

3ds ftw 3ds brings something new to the table plus it also has a strong lineup of games

 

[Guild McCommunist]

And about the question. It will be PSP vs DS. NGP will have flashy stuff for casuals while the 3DS will win since it has more actual content and is more child friendly.

Um, I don't give a shit if it's child friendly. I don't think children should be playing video games anyway, since they then end up on forums like these acting like whiny bitches and typing incoherently.

And the NGP is looking to have a more core-focused library as of now.

I mean right now, between the two it's a tough bet and I don't think we can call it as of now (seeing as the 3DS has had plenty of game reveals and the NGP hasn't had any official reveals). Basically, whatever system has Peace Walker 2 will be better in my eyes.

 

[SifJar]

3DS is "old"? It isn't even released yet...

 

[Ghostyis40]

SifJar, There's nothing old about 3DS...do your research before posting please!!!

 

[Fear Zoa]

Allright...Ima go with the 3ds and most likely get the new psp a year from now...

Reason being I got the original psp at launch...and there was only like 4 games the first year....so when it broke I never bothered to get another

Well that and Ive never been disappointed by Nintendo...

 

[ZaeZae64]

SifJar, There's nothing old about 3DS...do your research before posting please!!!

He never said it was old.

Anyway on the topic. I'm not too sure if I want the NGP yet.
Idunno why but for some reason I'm just not too excited about it.
That and I have no clue what the price for the NGP is.