Hacking 3DS Bricking Rumor

[Sonataroger]

It's not the first time I've seen companies and people get away with something unlawful

 

[Zorua]

It's not the first time I've seen companies and people get away with something unlawful

It's just a rumor.
No one has reported any form of bricking yet.

 

[Sonataroger]

It's not the first time I've seen companies and people get away with something unlawful

It's just a rumor.
No one has reported any form of bricking yet.

lolwut that has nothing to do with that comment hahaha I'm sure that they will eventually but the real question isn't will they it's if they do then what. I'm prepared to bet they get away with it.

 

[Foxi4]

Ok so as much as I don't like it they can "legaly" blrick your 3ds. When you buy the product and use it you are technically agreeing that you will use it for what the device was used for. In court they will make the argument that when you buy an Iphone you "agree" to the idea that they tell you what you can and can't use it for. It's kind of like you having to pay for a data plan with your service. You buy the data plan or you can't use any of it. It doesn't really make since but after talking to my neighbor who's a lawyer he said that would pass in court and you can't really do anything about it. You buy the 3ds service with the 3ds. not buying a 3ds with and paying extra for the service.
- However won't stop me from finding a way around this =D

Please read post 2. An EULA is not above law.

I feel like hugging you tightly and taking you out for dinner, followed by a session of ice cream monging.

This is what I've been screaming out for the past 2 months (or since whenever the rumour surfaced, seeing as my concept of time and space is crippled due to constantly sitting in my gaming groto) word by word to just about everyone who was concerned about the bricks.


If your 3DS hangs - throw it into the bin or ask Nintendo nicely to fix it for ya. If there is something Nintendo can deny you after using flash carts, it's Online capabilities (since they are *NOT* a feature of the system, but a privilage and Nintendo has no obligation to allow you to use them. They're a service which they conviniently allow their little clubhouse members to use and you can be expelled from it with no consiquences for Nintendo) and fixing your unit in case it breaks (seeing that you used hardware/software clearly enlisted as "naughty" by Nintendo).

What can you say? Thank you Ninny Boys for releasing a console that apparently still is in its prototype stage, seeing as most of its features are locked out until the May update. Talk about a world-wide Beta. Why the hurry? Couldn't you just "finish what you started" before selling it? Are you in financial trouble THAT MUCH? I find it hard to believe.

 

[Jaden.]

How Nintendo will figure out that you're using a Third Party Battery?

 

[Foxi4]

How Nintendo will figure out that you're using a Third Party Battery?

Easily. Each battery is fitted with a chip to control and display how much charge is in it left. That chip can be also used to identify whether or not the battery is original or third-party.

Third-party companies cannot use the same code Nintendo does due to copyright reasons, and any mismatch can be logged.

Handheld batteries "got smart" back when the PSP was released

 

[ccfreak2k]

How Nintendo will figure out that you're using a Third Party Battery?

Easily. Each battery is fitted with a chip to control and display how much charge is in it left. That chip can be also used to identify whether or not the battery is original or third-party.

Third-party companies cannot use the same code Nintendo does due to copyright reasons, and any mismatch can be logged.

Handheld batteries "got smart" back when the PSP was released

A similar situation lead to Lexmark Int'l v. Static Control Components.

 

[synce]

I don't think Nintendo is dumb enough to start bricking people's consoles. MS tried that and it didn't go over too well. Now they just ban people from online. Sony's doing the same. People spreading brick rumors are just paranoid or anti-piracy. To my knowledge there's never been a company that completely broke a product you paid for and got away with it.

 

[Riversong]

I personally believe this rumor is false, for the following reasons.

1. It's illegal in the US/UK.
   If you are found to be using a flash cart or third-party accessory, Nintendo has the right to stop you from using their online services, because that is a service. However they do not have the right to brick your device, as it is a good. The law recognizes the clear difference between goods and services. While some may argue that the software on the device is still Nintendo's property that you're licensing, there's two counters.

1. 
   
   How would they know? Do they scan the device with spotpass or do you have to call in and tell them?

 

[Bunie]

its just a warning that running 3rd party code allows them to do ANYTHING to your console, including brickers like those wich are found for the DS.

 

[Slynk]

It's not the first time I've seen companies and people get away with something unlawful

http://lawvibe.com/class-action-lawsuit-fi...ox360-bricking/
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-settl...box-360-console

It's not going to happen. It's just a scare tactic. Nintendo's not going to pull a Microsoft, but you never know if they'll pull a Sony

 

[tueidj]

Uh guys, Nintendo HAVE purposefully bricked people's wiis in the past. What makes you think they wouldn't do it to the 3DS if they had a good enough reason?

 

[chris888222]

Uh guys, Nintendo HAVE purposefully bricked people's wiis in the past. What makes you think they wouldn't do it to the 3DS if they had a good enough reason?

You mean error 003? that has been fixed and you can fix it in a store for a minimal rate.

Plus, i don't think nintendo did that deliberately. Or else they would be slapped with lawsuits.

 

[tueidj]

You can only fix it if you've got a modchip. And you bet your ass it was deliberate - it's a check added to the US, JAP and EUR system menus that looks for the korean key and throws up the error 003 screen if it finds it.

 

[ryuichiban]

why Nintendo didn't block the usage of flashcard before they release the 3DS?

i accidentally use my R4i from my DSi to my 3DS.

 

[Nollog]

About that other thread and the new post on nintendo3dsblog:

The group actually called and spoke to Nintendo, Gay told me, and "they confirmed that in fact, they could brick a device with a firmware update.

In other words, like the Wii 4.2 update, they can brick it by mistake.

 

[jpxdude]

The media is scaremongering, and Nintendo are just covering themselves. PLUS THIS IS OLD NEWS.

Obviously, if you use an unauthorised device of any sort on your 3DS, and it messes up, Nintendo are saying you are responsible if it breaks, and you bear the cost. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Rydian]

You can only fix it if you've got a modchip. And you bet your ass it was deliberate - it's a check added to the US, JAP and EUR system menus that looks for the korean key and throws up the error 003 screen if it finds it.

Source?

 

[chris888222]

I don't think Nintendo will deliberately brick your system... (Rich guys/gals who play with a flashcart solely cuz of homebrew will really cause a fuss)

Instead, disabling all the 'new' features (SpP, StP, Browser, eShop etc) should be more likely to me.

SpP - SpotPass
StP - StreetPass

 

[tueidj]

You can only fix it if you've got a modchip. And you bet your ass it was deliberate - it's a check added to the US, JAP and EUR system menus that looks for the korean key and throws up the error 003 screen if it finds it.

Source?

I can post a screenshot of some disassembled code if you like. But why would you not believe that Error 003 is a deliberate attempt at bricking (designed to only be fixable by Nintendo)?