Hacking 3DS Bricking Rumor

[KingVamp]

I only tried out my Acekard once..just to make sure that it worked in the 3ds, put it in last week when I got the 3ds..haven't used it since(I use it for my DSi XL anyway, I prefer it that way) I already removed the card from the activity log, does that mean I'm Ok..I mean it was only put in once for a few seconds..when the update does come out I can probably still update without worry right?

The data's still sent to them. Also, it's still in the daily log, from where it can't be deleted.

But I wouldn't worry about it.

I think you can format the daily log.

 

[Issac Ukiba]

Well, regardless of everything written on packages and rumors floating through the internet, there is one source I've yet to see anyone quote about this situation:

Important! After the Nintendo 3DS system is updated, any existing or future unauthorized technical modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system, or the use of an unauthorized device in connection with your system may render the system permanently unplayable. Content deriving from the unauthorized modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system may be removed. Failure to accept the update may render games unplayable.

This was taken from the notification on-system prior to a system update, at the "Accept/Decline" screen for the update itself.

Use of the word "may" in this part of the terms makes their threat not only flaky, but does give them the right to brick the system if they find an applicable reason to do such.

Pirates beware, we're in for a scare! [/goosebumps]

Anyway, take this as you will.

 

[Rydian]

Use of the word "may" in this part of the terms makes their threat not only flaky, but does give them the right to brick the system if they find an applicable reason to do such.

No it doesn't. An EULA is not above the law.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Here's my EULA:

You accept following conditions if you ever quote my comments:

1.) You give me all your money
2.) You give me your car
3.) You give me your house
4.) You give me your boat

If you quote any of my comments and violate any of these conditions, you will be banned permanently from this site.

You see, the board rules of gbatemp out rules my EULA. This should make clear that EULAs dont mean much.

 

[Giga_Gaia]

They can't brick your 3DS. That's property damage and it's even more illegal then piracy. Also, even if they could, they'd completely lose the trust of a lot of people.

If it were allowed, they'd have done it with the wii and Sony and Microsoft would do it too.

 

[Faize00]

Reading the previous post, Is it safe to use a flashcart right now?, or do we wait for the May update and see what happens?

 

[linuxGuru]

I think its pretty safe, I've used mine quite a bit, I'm more worried about nintendo bricking my supercard than bricking the 3DS.

 

[KingVamp]

Well, regardless of everything written on packages and rumors floating through the internet, there is one source I've yet to see anyone quote about this situation:

Important! After the Nintendo 3DS system is updated, any existing or future unauthorized technical modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system, or the use of an unauthorized device in connection with your system may render the system permanently unplayable. Content deriving from the unauthorized modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system may be removed. Failure to accept the update may render games unplayable.

This was taken from the notification on-system prior to a system update, at the "Accept/Decline" screen for the update itself.

Use of the word "may" in this part of the terms makes their threat not only flaky, but does give them the right to brick the system if they find an applicable reason to do such.

Pirates beware, we're in for a scare! [/goosebumps]

Anyway, take this as you will.

Like I said that doesn't mean remote bricking, that mean your device may "will" brick it after update.

QUOTE

Important! After the Nintendo 3DS system is updated, any existing or future unauthorized technical modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system,or the use of an unauthorized device in connection with your system may render the system permanently unplayable. Content deriving from the unauthorized modification of the hardware or software of your Nintendo 3DS system may be removed. Failure to accept the update may render games unplayable.

Why go through the trouble of removing content if they was "remotely bricking"?

 

[Rydian]

Reading the previous post, Is it safe to use a flashcart right now?, or do we wait for the May update and see what happens?

Your system will not be bricked by Nintendo.

Whether they ban you from online is another matter.

 

[vandawn]

even if they ban you from their online services its another completely different matter
so here is the deal if banning you = you cant update to the latest firmware it wont mean much to you
the thing is if you will need a newest firmware to play newer games the update will be contained withing the game itself
that can be proved with simple loging cause if you cant play all the latest games then you wont be buying any of them so nintendo will lose profit
on the other hand personaly i have never used any of the online services not even bought any dsiware or something
as things in the past showed us with sony and all i believe that you can actually brick your system if you softmode it yourself but they cant remote brick your system cause its a product that you bought.

i am not an expert myself so i dunno do the flashcards in the market modify any of the software in the handheld? if not then they cant brick your system.

 

[Rydian]

None of the flash carts modify the system software, which is partially why this rumor is so crap.

 

[vandawn]

None of the flash carts modify the system software, which is partially why this rumor is so crap.

thank you very much for your answer

this can sum up and block every rumor of actual bricking of the 3ds by using flashcards

 

[Etkar.H]

Sorry, but I am still worried. I'll just wait till the May 3DS Update, no bricks & no online ban then either? C'mere Acekard!

 

[Faize00]

Sorry, but I am still worried. I'll just wait till the May 3DS Update, no bricks & no online ban then either? C'mere Acekard!

Yeah, All (well, not all) questions will be answered After the May update.

 

[cloud1414]

Well if I'm right, the 3ds can't detect flashcards that run in ds mode anymore than the ds or dsi can. Why? Because it's running in DS mode. If you recall, even the DS phat shows an icon and title on the startup screen if you put the ds two in. Since the rule is a 3ds running in ds mode can't access any 3ds features, any additional functionality such as the activity log would be disabled also, the moment the system goes into ds mode when booting a game.
If you look at the activity log, all that is displayed is the same information the original DS has access to- the icon, publisher, and title. There is also the time played, but that can easily be tied to the system clock (the 3ds checks the time when you start and when you stop playing a game and calculates the difference, for the total play time). There is nothing to suggest that the 3ds can detect the flashcard and brick you as a result. Sure, they could wonder why you played fish tycoon for 700 hours, but wondering isn't evidence, and I can't see them taking chances by bricking people's property based off of an assumption.
I believe the only way to tell if Nintendo is serious about their threats is to wait for a circumvention device (flashcart or other) that works in 3ds mode, and try to update after running a 3ds rom or two. Something tells me if it can happen, it will only happen when you use these devices in 3ds mode.

 

[jjackweiss82]

Found a website that said that there have been bricked 3ds systems in japan, I can't confirm if this is real or not, but the website does look suspicious, and the person who posted it doesn't appear to be an active member.

Can someone vouch for this website? 3DS-chat.com

The link is below, please pm me if anyone answers this because i'm trying to tip-toe around the possibility of a brick, even though this article has largely dispelled my paranoia.

http://www.3ds-chat.com/warning-3ds-have-b...d19d22bd779#p14

Here's the exact quote, the Japanese wont appear on screen however

3ds hosts will leave a permanent record can not eliminate the use of, 3ds seems also automatically detect and lock machine!?
This is a photo taken by the Japanese players, the system has already locked up the player's host, and can not be used.
(locked machine players barely hanging on to enjoy the 3D effects on the screen and error warning)

I ran this message through a translator and got the following:

QUOTEChain machine error warning: It made error or occurred, or. The equipment which it has not approved the wearing which is connected ? it is. Length doing to push the power source button of the substance, please turn power source to OFF, follow to the indication of the handling ? discernment book of the substance. Use non method ? ? mark error warning: It made error or occurred, or. Please turn power source to OFF, follow to the indication of the handling ? discernment book of the substance.

 

[Rydian]

Lockups on the 3DS are a known issue and not related to flash carts.

If your 3DS locks up, return it for a replacement.

 

[jjackweiss82]

Thanks, I suspected as much, and the website is fishy, no replies to any posts, however I just added a translation of the text and the line about "The equipment which it has not approved is wearing" line is quite odd to say the least (grammar nonetheless)

 

[Sonataroger]

Ok so as much as I don't like it they can "legaly" blrick your 3ds. When you buy the product and use it you are technically agreeing that you will use it for what the device was used for. In court they will make the argument that when you buy an Iphone you "agree" to the idea that they tell you what you can and can't use it for. It's kind of like you having to pay for a data plan with your service. You buy the data plan or you can't use any of it. It doesn't really make since but after talking to my neighbor who's a lawyer he said that would pass in court and you can't really do anything about it. You buy the 3ds service with the 3ds. not buying a 3ds with and paying extra for the service.
- However won't stop me from finding a way around this =D

 

[Rydian]

Ok so as much as I don't like it they can "legaly" blrick your 3ds. When you buy the product and use it you are technically agreeing that you will use it for what the device was used for. In court they will make the argument that when you buy an Iphone you "agree" to the idea that they tell you what you can and can't use it for. It's kind of like you having to pay for a data plan with your service. You buy the data plan or you can't use any of it. It doesn't really make since but after talking to my neighbor who's a lawyer he said that would pass in court and you can't really do anything about it. You buy the 3ds service with the 3ds. not buying a 3ds with and paying extra for the service.
- However won't stop me from finding a way around this =D

Please read post 2. An EULA is not above law.