Formula 1

AmandaRose · Oct 1, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
I don't want to protect Max now, but do you really think that Newey, Marko & Horner really tell him everything and let him in on everything?

I think in this Case,punish the team - yes, driver - no.

Red Bulls moto has always been Win if you can lose if you must but always cheat. Anyhoo as Red Bull have massively went over the budget cap they will be receiving at least one major punishment but what does the rules say that punishment could be. Well let's have a look.

Major exceeding of budget cap (>5 per cent)

If the offence is above five per cent, it is a major overshoot of the budget cap. A material penalty may follow. A number of penalties correspond to those of the minor overrun, but severe penalties may also follow, leading to exclusion from the championship:

1. Deduction of points in the constructors' championship or drivers' championship from the period of the offence

2. Brake on the ability to develop aerodynamic parts

3. Exclusion from sessions during race weekends, including the race

4. Exclusion from one or more Grands Prix weekends

5. Total exclusion from the championship

Personaly I think RB will de disqualified from last years constructers championship and will also have points removed from this year's constructers. I think Max will not be punished.

Alexander1970 · Oct 1, 2022

For me it looks like a "Slowing down" Red Bull for this Year,so that the Championship will remain exciting until the End...

I would be "very surprised" when it comes to

4. Exclusion from one or more Grands Prix weekends

THIS.

AmandaRose · Oct 1, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
For me it looks like a "Slowing down" Red Bull for this Year,so that the Championship will remain exciting until the End...

I would be "very surprised" when it comes to

THIS.

They should make Max have to drive for Williams next season. Then we will get to see how really good or bad he actually is :rofl2:

Alexander1970 · Oct 1, 2022

AmandaRose said:
They should make Max have to drive for Williams next season. Then we will get to see how really good or bad he actually is

Or like in the DTM
(Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft / German Touring Car Championship) - Extra Weight.

Alexander1970 · Oct 2, 2022

*sigh*

I do not get it....

- They told him Perez will get an Penalty....
- They told him to not exceed the 5 Seconds....

What is so hard with this Instruction....?
Honestly.........Ferrari really do not deserve the Title this Year......

And for all Red Bull "Haters" - Yes,I also think 2x5 Seconds should be the Punishment.....
But,hey,who still believes Formula 1 is upright,fair and equitable.....

AmandaRose · Oct 2, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
*sigh*

I do not get it....

- They told him Perez will get an Penalty....
- They told him to not exceed the 5 Seconds....

What is so hard with this Instruction....?
Honestly.........Ferrari really do not deserve the Title this Year......

And for all Red Bull "Haters" - Yes,I also think 2x5 Seconds should be the Punishment.....
But,hey,who still believes Formula 1 is upright,fair and equitable.....

Had it been any other team then the punishment would have been bigger. Its bullshit the way FIA and Liberty Media treat RB differently to every other team.

Alexander1970 · Oct 11, 2022

First:

Congratulations to Max,well done,a really deserved Formula 1 Title,he was really the best Driver in 2022.

Red Bull / Mercedes / Ferrari

No Words.....
A Shame,really a Shame....you have destroyed Formula 1 forever....

Really not matters,what Red Bull have done in 2021 (or before),this was just a logical continuation of the "Punch and Judy show" that started with Ferrari in 2019...

Ferrari started with such "Things" (For Example Codeword "Flowmeter"...)
Mercedes have done such Things (For Example Codeword "Partymode"...)
Red Bull have done such Things (but they still haven't gotten caught or have somehow been able to prove everything to the contrary...)

Well, after a "Mercedes Employee" leaked these "Budget cap rumours" (which, strangely enough, are 100% consistent with yesterday's published FIA facts and allegations against Red Bull), Toto Wolf finally has his revenge for 2021.....hopefully the idiot will finally calm down....

So, dear FIA, what do we do now? How do we punish RED BULL now?
Think carefully, otherwise the reputation of Formula 1 will be completely ruined....

....Isn't the reputation already ruined enough?

AmandaRose · Oct 11, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
First:

Congratulations to Max,well done,a really deserved Formula 1 Title,he was really the best Driver in 2022.

Red Bull / Mercedes / Ferrari

No Words.....
A Shame,really a Shame....you have destroyed Formula 1 forever....

Really not matters,what Red Bull have done in 2021 (or before),this was just a logical continuation of the "Punch and Judy show" that started with Ferrari in 2019...

Ferrari started with such "Things" (For Example Codeword "Flowmeter"...)
Mercedes have done such Things (For Example Codeword "Partymode"...)
Red Bull have done such Things (but they still haven't gotten caught or have somehow been able to prove everything to the contrary...)

Well, after a "Mercedes Employee" leaked these "Budget cap rumours" (which, strangely enough, are 100% consistent with yesterday's published FIA facts and allegations against Red Bull), Toto Wolf finally has his revenge for 2021.....hopefully the idiot will finally calm down....

So, dear FIA, what do we do now? How do we punish RED BULL now?
Think carefully, otherwise the reputation of Formula 1 will be completely ruined....

....Isn't the reputation already ruined enough?

It's RB they will get a small fine and that will be it. Had it been any other team then they would have got maximum punishment but no the golden child that is Red Bull will just be slapped on the wrist.

Anyhoo congratulations to Max on his first World championship

Robru1 · Oct 11, 2022

AmandaRose said:
Anyhoo congratulations to Max on his first World championship

Second

AmandaRose · Oct 11, 2022

Robru1 said:
Second

Sorry that title that was handed to Max by Masi and was achieved by breaking the rules all season and going over budget does not count. To true Formula 1 fans Max is a one time champion.

Alexander1970 · Oct 11, 2022

With Masi we wouldn't have had this chaos in Suzuka 2022.

Alexander1970 · Jan 17, 2023

2023........what can we expect this Year ?

- Mudguards in the Wet Races ?
- Now more Tires to destroy in Qualifying ?
- Even more censored Driver Radio Messages and Statements ?
- A Comeback of the "Porpoising" ?

Maybe....

23 instead of 24 Grand Prixs.More than ever.
But still only 10 Teams...

A couple of new,young Faces and an old german One.

23. - 25.February 2023 - Wintertests in Bahrain
Then we maybe know a little more about the new Favorites for 2023.

HellGhast · Jan 17, 2023

Alexander1970 said:
2023........what can we expect this Year ?

A couple of new,young Faces and an old german One.

You mean one old Spanish face right?...Fernando Alonso is Spanish unless there's somebody else older?

AmandaRose · Jan 17, 2023

Alexander1970 said:
2023........what can we expect this Year ?

- Mudguards in the Wet Races ?
- Now more Tires to destroy in Qualifying ?
- Even more censored Driver Radio Messages and Statements ?
- A Comeback of the "Porpoising" ?

Maybe....

23 instead of 24 Grand Prixs.More than ever.
But still only 10 Teams...

A couple of new,young Faces and an old german One.

23. - 25.February 2023 - Wintertests in Bahrain
Then we maybe know a little more about the new Favorites for 2023.

The new rules for 2023 regarding the Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric (AOM) should in theory mean an end to porpoising.

Yep it's been confirmed 23 races this season.

My predictions for this season is that.

1. Lando will get his first well deserved win in F1

2. Lewis will win the world championship.

3. Alpine will shock the world and finish 3rd in the constructers championship and will also get a few race wins.

4. McLaren will win the midfield battle and finish 4th in the constructers.

5. Ferrari will have a disastrous season and be 5th in the constructers.

6. Christian Horner at nearly every race will get pissed off at something stupid and throw a massive hissy fit (No Change there then :rofl2:

)

HellGhast said:
You mean one old Spanish face right?...Fernando Alonso is Spanish unless there's somebody else older?

Alex was talking about Nico The Hulk Hülkenberg

Alexander1970 · Jan 18, 2023

HellGhast said:
You mean one old Spanish face right?...Fernando Alonso is Spanish unless there's somebody else older?

Good old Nico Hülkenberg.

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Nobody concerned about the "Mudguards" idea ?

AmandaRose · Jan 18, 2023

Alexander1970 said:
Nobody concerned about the "Mudguards" idea ?

Nope if it makes wet weather races better and safer then what is there to be concerned about?

Alexander1970 · Jan 18, 2023

But....but....but....the Formula 1 Car.....looks like more and more like a Pile of

AmandaRose · Jan 18, 2023

Alexander1970 said:
But....but....but....the Formula 1 Car.....looks like more and more like a Pile of

What's more important

1. Safety and exciting racing?

2. Good Looking Cars?

For me I pick 1

Alexander1970 · Jan 18, 2023

But,but.....they make Millions and Millions with Formula 1.
The Drivers earn Millions too..... so - no Risk,no Fun......

AmandaRose · Jan 18, 2023

Alexander1970 said:
But,but.....they make Millions and Millions with Formula 1.
The Drivers earn Millions too..... so - no Risk,no Fun......

Ah I get ya so you want F1 to be like it was in the 60s and 70s with the risk of someone dieing at every race.

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