Nintendo files lawsuit against RCM Loader seller, claims piracy is a worsening international problem

Dust2dust · Nov 19, 2020

elk1007 said:
Piracy will end when its more convenient to buy a game than to steal it.

Not necessarily. It's just fun to make your console do something that it shouldn't be able to do. That's half of the fun. The other half is saving money.

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Silent_Gunner said:
Doesn't Le Hoang Minh live in China? Or is this not the same guy who was doing so when the other two guys with Team Xecuter got arrested?

EDIT: read that last paragraph and also the fact that this is over RCM loaders. Are these those weird dongles that upload the payload to the Switch? Or is this any RCM jig?

presuming dongles. which I seriously hope Nintendo doesn't win this case. Since those don't really provide piracy. Just modding in general.

Adran_Marit · Nov 19, 2020

I for one personally hope they loose this case and maybe that will make way for more open source projects... ~~DIv2~~

Deleted User · Nov 19, 2020

in my eyes it's like saying an sd card with certain files for hacking a wii is piracy.

Silent_Gunner · Nov 19, 2020

monkeyman4412 said:
presuming dongles. which I seriously hope Nintendo doesn't win this case. Since those don't really provide piracy. Just modding in general.

Shit. Why stop at dongles? Why not toss ODEs into the mix as well?

Better get the stuff you want while you still can!

Dust2dust · Nov 19, 2020

If they were able to get a cease and desist against the Dragon Injector project, why not go after the other RCM dongles? Luckily they are made in China, so not such an easy task for them. But honestly, anyone who has a first gen unpatched V1 Switch should already have his RCM dongle, if he wanted one in the first place.

MagnesG · Nov 19, 2020

This is just another case where the seller had been very blatant about the piracy route from the product page itself, citing SX OS etc. He even counter claim back to make it worse, and selling it on Amazon of all places.

Nintendo won't be playing this game all of above didn't happen. The seller is just an idiot.

MeAndHax · Nov 19, 2020

dafuq is this?

in the file it says Le lives in Vietnam, so why the f*ck would he even care a single bit that Nintendo America has sued him? Lmaoo i would just throw the letter away into the trash bin and continue selling it. Nintendo is going nuts right now.

MohammedQ8 · Nov 19, 2020

It funny that Nintendo now have enough money to sue the world thanks to switch. Where were you in wii u days hehe. Instead of suing people they should fix or make new joys models.

DJPlace · Nov 19, 2020

yet another one bites the dust. nintendo got serious with this now yet again.

Chrisssj2 · Nov 19, 2020

ELY_M said:
This PISSED ME OFF!!!!!! RCM Loader devices DO NOT help you with piracy at all they are IDIOTS!!!!!!

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if the judges in the court are smart. they will not let this lawsuit win and toss that case out.

Yup just as astmosphere and SX OS. BOTH can be used for either homebrew or piracy. It doesn't mean exclusively the latter.

pcwizard7 · Nov 19, 2020

astmosphere and SX OS. BOTH can be used for either homebrew or piracy so how SX the ones who promote privacy and not atmos. you can charge them for earning money off it.

mattyxarope · Nov 19, 2020

pcwizard7 said:
astmosphere and SX OS. BOTH can be used for either homebrew or piracy so how SX the ones who promote privacy and not atmos. you can charge them for earning money off it.

SXOS includes keys that are technically owned by Nintendo making them illegal to distribute.

SX was sued recently because they were producing mod chips that had these illegally distributed keys baked into them.

That's the difference.

NeroAngelo · Nov 19, 2020

I doubt they could win this case, it's more of tangle the company in legal fees and scare them into stopping

Axido · Nov 19, 2020

"Worsening international problem"... yeah, right.

How old are those lawyers? 18?
Look at how common piracy was in the good old Amiga and Commodore days... or with the Nintendo DS and Sony PSP (in fact it is pretty hard to find a used PSP that hasn't been hacked yet)... or how comparatively easy it was to hack a Wii. Now look at the Switch. By now the majority of units can't even be hacked using a jig and an RCM loader.

If anything, piracy has become far more niche than it used to be.

tigersaman · Nov 19, 2020

To those who were cheering Nintendo for lawsuit against SX : In the eyes of nintendo we are all on the same side. If one goes down, others go down too.

shanefromoz · Nov 19, 2020

Are Nintendo seriously that dumb.
We dont need rcm loaders anymore.
Same thing can be done using a mobile phone and usb c to usb c lead

GatoFiestero · Nov 19, 2020

I highly recommend the RCM Loader it has worked perfect for me for quite some time.

Technicmaster0 · Nov 19, 2020

I think that the result of a lawsuit depends on what the end user does with the product and most will probably use it for piracy.
There was decision by the european court about what copy protection means etc back in 2014: http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=146686&doclang=EN and I don't think that RCM dongles would win under this ruling.
Anyways, they probably won't get close to that layer. Most of these cases settle before someone is sentenced

studio1b · Nov 19, 2020

nintnedo will win the case.
RCMloaders come with payloaders pre installed on the device ( do not know why the sellers would include this )
but right off the bat you getting sued for that reason

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