Yeah in that case don't try to do so if it comes naturally, the problem lies with me.
I will continue to try toning it down -- if I expect others to be able to do something with whatever I write I do have to try to play to that, and continue to recognise that not everybody (especially on this site) has English as a first language, something of a knack for it, decades of playing with it and also a fondness for playing with it. Someone's ideas are more interesting to me* and if I am doing the "I are wordboy" thing then that might get in the way, even if can be more succinct or encompass more nuance*, or on occasion allow me to rip the piss out of someone to their face and have them thank me for it or only realise 10 days later when the time for any acceptable reproach has long since passed.
*quite often we are dealing with concepts otherwise expressed as code or in the case of politics concepts that have anything but a clear division or simple solution.
The problem with "some thread" (you know which one) arent about discussing opinion, but just splatering bullshit glittered in a rethoric exercice and then just rebuking any argument just for the "kick" of "rubbing dem libtards nose with it".
The problem here is the daily trolling (because even if they actual believe what the views they are backuping it doesnt change the fact that at no point it is looking for a real discussion, its just "be convinced by my superior argumentation or prove to me that you are a dumbshit waste of a subhuman" mentality).
And it just turn the politic section into a toxic wasteland.
That might be the current flavour of what might be dubbed infection (again see
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm ) but we have also seen the opposite** side of the would be political compass try it on at times, both are about as spineless in the end (their rage quit threads are endlessly amusing here).
The question then becomes is it likely to disrupt the flow of things and if so does something need to be done about it? Second in this have things changed out in the world that might change the necessary approach***?
Completely removing any political discussion does seem to be either admitting defeat or cutting your nose off to spite your face. We have literally had the better part of two decades at this point of it happening just fine. Not to mention it is a rather hard line to draw at times.
Removing discussion of a given stripe is both counterproductive (forbidden information and all that, to say nothing of "sunlight, wonderful disinfectant) and also hard to do as you end up on shifting sands here.
To that end my position still has to be keep it open, if you have the time then show where something might be wrong in something. Whether you change the poster in question's mind is one thing but you provide an alternative for the others reading which might otherwise get swept up in things.
**Chary vs Old in the new staff recruitment discussions a while back was my favourite for that one. And people occasionally accuse me of getting people to spew nonsense while being completely unaware of their debate partner's particular credentials in that one (not that even mattered in that case), though to be fair that is one of my favourite negotiation strategies.
***despite drivel from a few politicos (including big ones) games are pretty much sorted/protected now where "OMG violence and occasionally tits" was a rather different discussion well within memory (it has barely been 10 years since Jack Thompson was disbarred and that did not slow him down too much) and a more hardline counter narrative was needed to oppose such forces. More generally out in the world then certain traditional lines are changing somewhat, possibly too fast for some and into some very odd things but the end result is still change.
like a 250 dollar kit back when DDR4 was Intel only
