Rumor: two Switch hardware revisions entering production

Gon Freecss · Jun 18, 2019

KooPako said:
I wonder what kind of name they'll have.

New Nintendo Switch

KingVamp · Jun 18, 2019

I think even if the "New Switch" ends up stronger, I don't think they will change the screen resolution. Not just because of the battery, but for the performance too.

Bladexdsl · Jun 18, 2019

KooPako said:
I wonder what kind of name they'll have.

super nintendo switch

pedro702 · Jun 18, 2019

Bladexdsl said:
super nintendo switch

no nintendo cant be that smart it will be some odd name like
"new nintendo switch"

i mean sometimes they give the worst names and consumers have no clue like wii u, new nintendo 3ds.

shadow1w2 · Jun 18, 2019

Just give me some spec info and a price point Nintendo.
Guess they really need a surprise launch, worked for the original.
Still driving me a bit nuts, I'd like to plan ahead a bit before I buy a new console.
Hopefully they don't create a shortage again but if there's a mini version it should be great for Pokemon.

Also if their clever with the names
"Low Volt Switch" and "Power Switch"

Bladexdsl · Jun 18, 2019

pedro702 said:
no nintendo cant be that smart it will be some odd name like
"new nintendo switch"

Nintendo RE-switch

JavaScribe · Jun 18, 2019

Johnton said:
They released 6 or 7 revisions of the 3DS.

I initially thought that number was a bit high, but...

3DS
3DS XL
2DS
New 3DS
New 3DS XL
New 2DS XL

Six. And I still feel like I missed something.

I'd like a more powerful Switch, though if we get a cheap enough "same but cheaper" model, I just might go for that. I would only really use it for Switch/console exclusive games. It's not like I don't have a high-mid-range PC (read: 1660 Ti + Ryzen) sitting on my desk. And who needs homebrew when you have Visual Studio I'm only partially kidding

And don't forget to move that USB-C. I hear the flimsy kickstand was bad enough without a cable sticking out of the bottom of the unit. Maybe invert the kickstand and have it flip the screen when extended?

Itsuki235 · Jun 19, 2019

They also released "LL" 3DS versions of several models which were only released in Japan that are identical-ish to the foreign models. The "New 3DS" (non-XL) was never released outside of Japan. It's so sad it is End of Life (EoL) now.

I <3 my 3DS more than my Switch, especially with 4 generations FE games on it (SNES, GBA, DS, 3DS), the flip form factor and that it can fit in my pocket. The Switch doesn't even have 1 native FE title yet

Well, until Three Houses gets released that is.

I doubt the new "portable" Switch version will be as good as the current 3DS models.

guisadop · Jun 19, 2019

Xzi said:
Sure, but they can make it cheaper without removing all that, too. If Switch Lite has fixed joycons, they don't need individual batteries. They also don't need to include a dock with it. Lastly, they can use under-performing X1 chips and cap the performance in docked mode.

I'm pretty sure Nvidia intends to use the same Tegra X1 refresh that's going into Switch Pro in a Shield TV revision, so Nintendo isn't likely to step on their partner's toes. Especially after their sales for their last stationary console were so pathetic, and their sales for their first hybrid console have been so massive.

I think removing the screen + speakers + everything related to mobile would make it even cheaper and much more convenient for those who don't like to play it as a handheld

UltraDolphinRevolution · Jun 19, 2019

x65943 said:
Wow moving production is pretty significant. Seems like Trump's trade war is actually affecting more than I thought.

While the Switch is manufactured in China, it is actually made in Japan in terms of planning, profits, etc.. When comparing trade imbalances Trump and his administration only compare total prices of sales, which skews the results.
Chinese incomes have been risen for some time so low-income production is moving to South East Asia and other regions. The trade war only accelerated this trend. It will force the Chinese government to hasten their economic reform efforts. It considers a middle income trap as a great danger to China. So in the end, the trade war could actually benefit its government's own goals. Kind of like the sanctions have made Russia aware that it must decrease its dependency on oil sales. Russia has not much progress (other than farming), we will see how China deals with this challenge.

Xzi · Jun 19, 2019

guisadop said:
I think removing the screen + speakers + everything related to mobile would make it even cheaper and much more convenient for those who don't like to play it as a handheld

There are those who only like to play docked and those who only like to play in portable mode. For that very reason, the entire appeal of Switch is that it's a 'one size fits all' console. Shield TV is still $200 unless you find it on sale, I think they can pretty easily get Switch Lite down to that same price without removing half of its functionality.

Besides, if they were gonna go stationary-only, there's no reason to have it use a Tegra X1 any more. Size constraints would no longer be a consideration.

UltraDolphinRevolution · Jun 19, 2019

But don't some games require both? Or at least Handheld mode. Can you actually make levels in Mario Maker 2 without handheld mode?

Pleng · Jun 19, 2019

UltraDolphinRevolution said:
Can you actually make levels in Mario Maker 2 without handheld mode?

Yes

Deleted-236924 · Jun 19, 2019

Xzi said:
There are those who only like to play docked and those who only like to play in portable mode. For that very reason, the entire appeal of Switch is that it's a 'one size fits all' console. Shield TV is still $200 unless you find it on sale, I think they can pretty easily get Switch Lite down to that same price without removing half of its functionality.

Besides, if they were gonna go stationary-only, there's no reason to have it use a Tegra X1 any more. Size constraints would no longer be a consideration.

I don't really understand your insistence with keeping handheld functionality for a theoretical model aimed towards users who are only interested in playing the switch on their TV, like every other game console they have.

Have you ever considered that, on top of whatever you're proposing they could do to bring the price down, they could also bring the price down even lower by removing the screen and all other handheld components, and designing the system without tablet size restrictions?

Nintendo has every reason in the world to release a model that is as cheap as humanly possible. If the console is cheaper, then more people can afford it, and more people buy it. They can easily price it so they make the same profit as the other models, while bringing the price down both for the consumer and for themselves. And the more consoles are out there on the market, the more people there are to actually buy the games, at the same price as everyone else, regardless of which model they bought.

The 2DS literally costs $50 right now. That's cheap as fuck, and it plays all of the same games as the 3DS does. It makes it very accessible, and every buyer potentially adds up to more sales on games, leading to even more profit for Nintendo. Even when the 2DS was new, it was much cheaper and much more accessible than the regular 3DS was.

garyopa · Jun 19, 2019

Not sure if it was reported in this thread yet, but this website that sells Nintendo Switch accessories, has already added a category and page of new MINI accessories:

http://www.honsoncn.com/nintendo switch mini/

Complete with pictures, and full lineup, of travel bags, carry cases, and even screen protectors.

Xzi · Jun 19, 2019

Ammako said:
I don't really understand your insistence with keeping handheld functionality for a theoretical model aimed towards users who are only interested in playing the switch on their TV, like every other game console they have.

It's only because Switch isn't like every other game console that it's selling so well. And it's only because it's a hybrid that it's called 'Switch.' I understand that some people would've preferred if they had kept their console and portable products separate, but that's not the direction Nintendo went in, and now that the hybrid system has proven itself a success, there's no reason for them to suddenly change their minds about it.

Besides, if they were going to make a stationary-only version, I'd think that without the size constraints they'd make it more powerful and more expensive. A portable-only version is the one they'd make cheaper.

garyopa said:
Not sure if it was reported in this thread yet, but this website that sells Nintendo Switch accessories, has already added a category and page of new MINI accessories:

http://www.honsoncn.com/nintendo switch mini/

Complete with pictures, and full lineup, of travel bags, carry cases, and even screen protectors.

Ooh, very nice. Makes sense to have a full D-pad with fixed joycons. Still appears to have the USB-C port in the same position for docking.

garyopa · Jun 19, 2019

Xzi said:
Ooh, very nice. Makes sense to have a full D-pad with fixed joycons. Still appears to have the USB-C port in the same position for docking.

Only problem is the two joysticks, if the switch is smaller, how will it slide into the dock, this render shows the best view of the new mini, seems the speakers been moved to the bottom side edge also. -- Personally I don't see it coming with a DOCK, just a usb-C to HDMI dongle thingie!

Pleng · Jun 19, 2019

Ammako said:
Have you ever considered that, on top of whatever you're proposing they could do to bring the price down, they could also bring the price down even lower by removing the screen and all other handheld components, and designing the system without tablet size restrictions

Only if they can sell them in significant enough quantities to get the benefits of economies of scale.

I just don't see there being enough demand for such a system. People who play consoles on TV probably don't want a gimped Android TV box amongst their collection unless they are big Nintendo fans; in which case they'd probably buy a Switch regardless.

D34DL1N3R · Jun 19, 2019

Switch U

Xzi · Jun 19, 2019

garyopa said:
Only problem is the two joysticks, if the switch is smaller, how will it slide into the dock, this render shows the best view of the new mini, seems the speakers been moved to the bottom side edge also. -- Personally I don't see it coming with a DOCK, just a usb-C to HDMI dongle thingie!

True, the dock won't have to be more than a small plastic piece to hold it upright.

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