Hacking Question Safest way to launch save data manager?

sonic2756 · Jul 17, 2018

Haven't been keeping up with the switch scene very much. What's the best way to me to manage my switch save data with the lowest risk of getting banned? I need to move my save over from my PC copy of Enter the Gungeon.

Deleted-442439 · Jul 17, 2018

I presume you are able to get into the HB menu via Hekate? (or nspwn for 3.0.0) if so all you need is:

Checkpoint:

https://github.com/BernardoGiordano/Checkpoint/releases/tag/v3.1.0

sonic2756 · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
Hekate

I just tested getting into RCM mode. I was holding off on setting up Hekate or anything else because I wasn't sure what to do to minimize ban risk.

Deleted-442439 · Jul 17, 2018

sonic2756 said:
I just tested getting into RCM mode. I was holding off on setting up Hekate or anything else because I wasn't sure what to do to minimize ban risk.

It is impossible to give a clear answer in regards to bans, but in general:

- Running normal userland homebrew (not mods, backup loading, cheats etc.) should be safe. There are no reported bans from Hekate alone.

sonic2756 · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
It is impossible to give a clear answer in regards to bans, but in general:

- Running normal userland homebrew (not mods, backup loading, cheats etc.) should be safe. There are no reported bans from Hekate alone.

Awesome. Should I bother with clearing logs?

Deleted-442439 · Jul 17, 2018

sonic2756 said:
Awesome. Should I bother with clearing logs?

Only if you get a error, if not it is more dangerous to clear it.

sonic2756 · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
Only if you get a error, if not it is more dangerous to clear it.

Sounds good. Thanks for all the info!

Draxzelex · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
It is impossible to give a clear answer in regards to bans, but in general:

- Running normal userland homebrew (not mods, backup loading, cheats etc.) should be safe. There are no reported bans from Hekate alone.

Some guy booted Hekate, ran Retroarch, and cleared error logs on 5.X to be met with a ban not too soon afterwards. He claims to have been ban-free for a while up until the moment he cleared error logs. He also notes that he suffered from numerous crashes. I would definitely say that clearing error logs introduces its own inherent risk that is not mitigated through its actions.

Deleted-442439 · Jul 17, 2018

Draxzelex said:
Some guy booted Hekate, ran Retroarch, and cleared error logs on 5.X to be met with a ban not too soon afterwards. He claims to have been ban-free for a while up until the moment he cleared error logs. He also notes that he suffered from numerous crashes. I would definitely say that clearing error logs introduces its own inherent risk that is not mitigated through its actions.

Heh, that sounds very interesting.

I am still not banned and have done the following:

- Used "normal" homebrew apps both online and offline
- LayeredFS (both for loading backups and mods)
- Experienced crashes with both above, and gone online with those crash reports.
- Cleared logs numerous times
- Used dev / kiosk apps both online and offline.
- Installed unsigned NSP's, and prod encrypted from dev to retail apps, and "backup" nsp's.
- SX OS (offline)
- Accessed Shogun / bugyo with the same account linked to my console via non legitimate means
- Other private stuff

Only thing I have done to mitigate bans, is turn of sharing usage data in account settings after the whole EU thing was discovered. Been using Hekate since its release.

Also had all the auto update / share error report stuff turned off on the console.

Been playing online games (legit purchased) the entire time without issue.

Draxzelex · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
Heh, that sounds very interesting.

I am still not banned and have done the following:

- Used "normal" homebrew apps both online and offline
- LayeredFS (both for loading backups and mods)
- Experienced crashes with both above, and gone online with those crash reports.
- Cleared logs numerous times
- Used dev / kiosk apps both online and offline.
- Installed unsigned NSP's, and prod encrypted from dev to retail apps, and "backup" nsp's.
- SX OS (offline)
- Other private stuff

Only thing I have done to mitigate bans, is turn of sharing usage data in account settings after the whole EU thing was discovered. Been using Hekate since its release.

Also had all the auto update / share error report stuff turned off on the console.

Been playing online games (legit purchased) the entire time without issue.

Well, some things you haven't made entirely clear so I'll only take your word on it if you deny it (I won't take the absence of saying you did something as evidence you did not do it) but that's good enough for me to generate a preliminary data set for you. Welcome to the spreadsheet!

Deleted-442439 · Jul 17, 2018

Draxzelex said:
Well, some things you haven't made entirely clear so I'll only take your word on it if you deny it (I won't take the absence of saying you did something as evidence you did not do it) but that's good enough for me to generate a preliminary data set for you. Welcome to the spreadsheet!

Yay!

il reply to the ban thread so you get the full data

Kukielka · Jul 17, 2018

jjbredesen said:
Only if you get a error, if not it is more dangerous to clear it.

Wait a sec, can you elaborate on that?
Is there any proof for this, rr rather, any strong evidence?

hippy dave · Jul 17, 2018

Can't you inject the save into a nand backup, assuming you take all the correct encryption steps, and restore that, to modify the save without running any homebrew/hacks outside of RCM mode?

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