Team-Xecuter announces future-proof Switch exploit

geodeath · Jan 3, 2018

Pleng said:
Firstly; please show me where I can find a portable Android device with built-in-controls which can emulate the SEGA Saturn at a reasonable speed? I'd be happy to pay a decent price for such a device, but one doesn't exist.

Secondly "you can do this on another device" is a ridiculous argument, especially when it comes to portable devices. Currently when I go out, I take my phone and my GPD-XD out with me. If I want to include Nintendo games then I need to bring along my 3DS - either as well as or instead of my GPD. As well as means my bag's pretty much full up, instead of limits significantly the amount of games I can play and leaves me relying on my phone for media playback.

Then when I get home how can I easily dock these plentiful devices that you speak of and continue on my TV where I left off? If I want to that with my XD I either need a long HDMI cable, or I need to attach USB controllers and forgo the opportunity to charge it.

I follow the Android portable device scene quite keenly and I know that there is nothing with built-in controls that comes close to doing what the switch could do, let alone with the docking capability. I'm actually pretty surprised that there hasn't been an Android switch-style clone developed by the Chinese copycats, but so far there just hasn't.

Just here to say that saturn emulation is shite at its best, so dreaming of emulating it well on any hardware is a pipe dream - at the moment. Sadly, but it is. There are only 2-3 platforms not emulated well still, we can only wish.

Pleng · Jan 3, 2018

geodeath said:
Just here to say that saturn emulation is shite at its best, so dreaming of emulating it well on any hardware is a pipe dream - at the moment.

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scionae · Jan 3, 2018

Skeptical about this, I won't rise my hope for now
Let's wait for some actual code or othre videos to be released
If this turns out to be true then.. wow. What a time to be alive boys.

lAkdaOpeKA · Jan 3, 2018

SonyUSA said:
I think you forgot about the 2DS/3DS and magnethax already

Nintendo could have fixed that exploit on the New 2DS XL...

T-hug · Jan 3, 2018

Just wanted to add that Spring/Summer is very optimistic. Here is a direct quote from one of the guys at Team Xecuter:

Right now we are
discussing the final products

That is from the horse's mouth, so they are not even into production yet.

scionae · Jan 3, 2018

T-hug said:
Just wanted to add that Spring/Summer is very optimistic. Here is a direct quote from one of the guys at Team Xecuter:

Right now we are
discussing the final products

That is from the horses mouth, so their not even into production yet.

They already have a method to load a custom logo before the Switch's one tho
So I think they're in production already (I hope)

Thelonewolf88 · Jan 3, 2018

This is will mostly likely be a hard mod and TX have always delivered in the past, since the early Xbox days.

Deleted User · Jan 3, 2018

Here's how it's probably going to work with switch piracy this early.Nintendo won't be losing profits but gaining them since who doesn't want the newest console hacked.First party games are also published by Nintendo,so most of the funding thats used to buy the console goes towards your first party anyway.Thats atleast how I can see first party devs still profiting with piracy going on.The switch is a 1st party console anyway focused around exclusives with 3rd party here and there,so the only downside to this is less 3rd party on the switch so 3rd party devs won't be making much profit from it.

T-hug · Jan 3, 2018

scionae said:
They already have a method to load a custom logo before the Switch's one tho
So I think they're in production already (I hope)

Yes they have a method and probably some dirty looking hard mod. But "Right now we are discussing the final products" says to me they haven't started any kind of production yet.

linuxares · Jan 3, 2018

Bladexdsl said:
hard mod or mod chip calling it now.

Yes, most likely. It's a either a nand that emulates the original and patches the fuses or just straight up uses them and patches stuff on the fly.

Reecey · Jan 3, 2018

The worst news I could of possibly read this year on GBATemp!! What a downer!

Edit: by the way if this is coming from the Team Xecuter, it wont be free, no doubt you will have to buy something as an add on similar to the Xbox360 Blaster Kits days. I had two still have

Ethan34 · Jan 3, 2018

will this be a hardmod of the nand / cpu or a webkit exploit?

Polopop123 · Jan 3, 2018

Could they patch this with a hardware revision? It obviously won’t stop older consoles from doing it.

SomeKindOfUsername · Jan 3, 2018

The downside to this being a hardmod is there'll be far less schadenfreude from idiots whining about how unfair it is they got banned for piracy.

FAST6191 · Jan 3, 2018

mech said:
Softmods are always more welcome to hardmods for their convenience.

Most times you get a hard mod I find it more convenient than the software side of things. Usually get greater security, more flexibility and better results often until way late in the day. Granted we are now in the current year where readily updatable devices are a thing so I am not sure how much I can realistically look back here, however I can see the hard mod side of things still being better for many of those.

weatMod said:
softmods also void your warranty

That varies where you are in the world. The usual reference for law on it being car modifications -- if the mod can realistically be said to have caused your problem then you are on your own but if not then they still get to fix it.

Xzi said:
You could buy a portable Android device that did all this for ~$150 years before Switch was even released. So again I ask why you would spend another $300 to perform all the same tasks as a phone or Nvidia Shield device. Running Android is a waste of Switch's potential and power. Full Linux or Windows would be far more interesting.

Does having android preclude having big boy Linux or Windows?
For the most part this seems like one of those questions better asked as why not? As in why not port android if you can? Functionally it is something of another linux distro at this point -- not quite as general as arch or debian but not quite as specialist as some of the game/emulator centric things we saw for the dingoo and GP family.
If it immediately gains you a repo full of good stuff, even if suffering a bit from java overhead and a desire to not give you root access to your own hardware, then even better.

Now if we were going to debate which people focus more resources into it could go somewhere but to dismiss the mere act of doing so seems remarkably short sighted.

SomeKindOfUsername said:
The downside to this being a hardmod is there'll be far less schadenfreude from idiots whining about how unfair it is they got banned for piracy.

Are we so quick to forget the fairly simple 360 DVD mods and the whining that went there? Also the nice number of them that went on sale when people declared them worthless because no online?

Xzi · Jan 3, 2018

Pleng said:
Firstly; please show me where I can find a portable Android device with built-in-controls which can emulate the SEGA Saturn at a reasonable speed? I'd be happy to pay a decent price for such a device, but one doesn't exist.

Secondly "you can do this on another device" is a ridiculous argument, especially when it comes to portable devices. Currently when I go out, I take my phone and my GPD-XD out with me. If I want to include Nintendo games then I need to bring along my 3DS - either as well as or instead of my GPD. As well as means my bag's pretty much full up, instead of limits significantly the amount of games I can play and leaves me relying on my phone for media playback.

Then when I get home how can I easily dock these plentiful devices that you speak of and continue on my TV where I left off? If I want to that with my XD I either need a long HDMI cable, or I need to attach USB controllers and forgo the opportunity to charge it.

I follow the Android portable device scene quite keenly and I know that there is nothing with built-in controls that comes close to doing what the switch could do, let alone with the docking capability. I'm actually pretty surprised that there hasn't been an Android switch-style clone developed by the Chinese copycats, but so far there just hasn't.

You're picking one niche use-case here. If you go with a better OS than Android, you get to run newer/more various games and emulators, simple as that. That's a much bigger benefit than Saturn emulation.

FAST6191 said:
Does having android preclude having big boy Linux or Windows?
For the most part this seems like one of those questions better asked as why not? As in why not port android if you can? Functionally it is something of another linux distro at this point -- not quite as general as arch or debian but not quite as specialist as some of the game/emulator centric things we saw for the dingoo and GP family.
If it immediately gains you a repo full of good stuff, even if suffering a bit from java overhead and a desire to not give you root access to your own hardware, then even better.

Now if we were going to debate which people focus more resources into it could go somewhere but to dismiss the mere act of doing so seems remarkably short sighted.

It's I'm sure one of the easiest things that could be done, porting Android, but IMO also one of the most boring. We already have Shield TV for that, and it's even got a bit more power without the heat/battery restraints of a portable. Not to mention that's much cheaper than Switch during a sale, and you don't even have to pay for a modchip.

Pleng · Jan 3, 2018

Xzi said:
You're picking one niche use-case here. If you go with a better OS than Android, you get to run newer/more various games, simple as that.

Not really; because you then need to wait for all the games/emulators to be ported or recompiled at the very least. With Android you have them working as soon at the OS is ready; which, considering the Switch is basically a ShieldTV, should be relatively simple.

And I'm not picking a niche use-case. Just because my use case isn't the same as yours, it doesn't mean it's niche.

You've focused on the Saturn emulation part of the argument... but replace that with DreamCast or N64 if you like; or an avid Soinc or Clash of the Clans fan. In fact your argument against Android could be used against any other device; there's plenty of ways to run Linux, or Windows on a portable device; why bother trying to run those on the Switch? If you follow your own argument all the way to it's logical conclusions it's essentially as good as "why bother with homebrew on the switch - there's plenty of other devices out there for that". And the answer to that is obvious; people don't like to pay for, or carry around, any more devices than they need to.

You don't really have a valid argument for not running Android other than "there's plenty of other devices that do that" when we've already established that there actually isn't.

I honestly find it hard to believe that you really can't see any positives to having the entire Android library instantly available on the device.

We already have Shield TV for that, and it's even got a bit more power without the heat/battery restraints of a portable.

...and without the portibility of a portable! :wacko:

Deleted User · Jan 3, 2018

Unfortunately piracy? More like luckyily, i'm broke af

330 · Jan 3, 2018

2020: people complain about Nintendo releasing all their games on mobile phone and wonder why they won't make a new console anymore.

OblivionReign · Jan 3, 2018

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I hope it'll be an option not to replace the Nintendo logo with this abomination.
Why would you watermark hax anyway?

It wouldnt be hard to change it out yourself lol

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