Hacking kexploit for switch achieved by plutoo and friends *no release*

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This whole conversation is pointless. no one here, myself included, has any idea what is going on with the kernel exploit as as it isn't even close to being made public yet it's stupid to speculate. And yes I meant decryption through the kernel, apologies for how I put that across.
 
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This whole conversation is pointless. no one here, myself included, has any idea what is going on with the kernel exploit as as it isn't even close to being made public yet it's stupid to speculate. And yes I meant decryption through the kernel, apologies for how I put that across.

I understood you. :D

I am mostly dubious on it's compatible FW being >3.0.0 due to lack of concern on patching, but who knows. That and most all work I know of is <3.0.0, and we already have a lot of potential fragmentation in the scene.
 

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I am mostly dubious on it's compatible FW being >3.0.0 due to lack of concern on patching, but who knows. That and most all work I know of is <3.0.0, and we already have a lot of potential fragmentation in the scene.

:) Yeah, I think what isn't understood is the fact that you still need a way of getting to the kernel to attack it whether that be something like through webkit and as you say most of the work has been on <3.0.0 and will most likely stay that way for the near future.
 
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So still no confirmation whether the kernel access was achieved on <3.0.0 or above it?
I still have my Switch wrapped up at 2.2.0, just wanted to know to jump ahead and buy one or two games for it. No hurry though, I can hold off for way longer :)
 

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Yeah, I think what isn't understood is the fact that you still need a way of getting to the kernel to attack it whether that be something like through webkit and as you say most of the work has been on <3.0.0 and will most likely stay that way for the near future.

That and the kernel can be patched, which is the much bigger concern (and what I found a bit confusing about the quote conversation from before, patching is always a concern). Attack vectors are always present, its when the kernel itself is ironed out that is more troublesome. In fact that's usually why many kernel exploits remain unreleased ad infinitum, because if you lose the kernel vuln, you may never recover it or an equivalent one and it stifles further tinkering.

Which, again, is why I am dubious on this being capable on current FW since I'd have expected some degree of caution from the devs on it, unless they genuinely don't care if its patched and may have no plan to ever release it. Releasing it now, though, if it is unpatched is kind of pointless in the long run. Keep it hidden and private, and work with it for as long as you can then release when patched. (Of course, this means a lot of people will probably be caught off-guard by a patch and the kexploit will just be as "limited" as smhax is in what it can do since it runs into much the same problems as smhax in terms of working as a piracy vector (since that seems to be the only thing any one cares about), it just has a further reach that smhax hasn't yet achieved.)

In the latter case, don't expect it for a long, long time.
 
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That and the kernel can be patched, which is the much bigger concern (and what I found a bit confusing about the quote conversation from before, patching is always a concern). Attack vectors are always present, its when the kernel itself is ironed out that is more troublesome. In fact that's usually why many kernel exploits remain unreleased ad infinitum, because if you lose the kernel vuln, you may never recover it or an equivalent one and it stifles further tinkering.

Which, again, is why I am dubious on this being capable on current FW since I'd have expected some degree of caution from the devs on it, unless they genuinely don't care if its patched and may have no plan to ever release it. Releasing it now, though, if it is unpatched is kind of pointless in the long run. Keep it hidden and private, and work with it for as long as you can then release when patched. (Of course, this means a lot of people will probably be caught off-guard by a patch and the kexploit will just be as "limited" as smhax is in what it can do since it runs into much the same problems as smhax in terms of working as a piracy vector (since that seems to be the only thing any one cares about), it just has a further reach that smhax hasn't yet achieved.)

In the latter case, don't expect it for a long, long time.
Unless we get what happened to smhax where someone else finds it and gives it to hackerone. In which case it may be patched sooner than you expect (if not already patched)
 

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Just out of interest, if you hate the ergonomics of the Switch, think it's underpowered and aren't at all interested in portability...why the hell are you so interested in homebrew! You prefer your Wii U by your own admission and that has and always will have superior homebrew due to DS and Wii ability so why do you get involved in 3.0.0 master race flames with people having updated?

Essentially you have a console you hate, with features you won't use, and build quality you can't get used to and yet you are keeping it under 3.0.0 to use homebrew you already have on Wii U only here its worse. I really have no words..

I'm interested in homebrew because I think that doing things on a closed platform that were never intended is neat. I'm going to sit on my Switch and see what happens with homebrew. If it's just emulators and playing backups of 3.0.0 or less games I can always sell it. I try not to start fights but I realize that posting rants about how crappy I think the console is will cause drama. I can probably stop now. Both times I slagged the console off it started a shit show.
 

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Well this is sort of old news no? Didn't we already have rw permits by using the kernal to get into TZ? Probably means that he doesnt need tz to achieve it but then kernal can be patched.

Btw it's his Twitter. Let him brag and bolster about all he wants. Whether he releases or not it's on him. We have other devs also working on the switch that seem more willing if not.
 
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Well this is sort of old news no? Didn't we already have rw permits by using the kernal to get into TZ? Probably means that he doesnt need tz to achieve it but then kernal can be patched.

Btw it's his Twitter. Let him brag and bolster about all he wants. Whether he releases or not it's on him. We have other devs also working on the switch that seem more willing if not.

@SciresM is not the type to tease something that isn't going to be released. When he shows something off you can bet you'll see it public eventually.
 

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