Hardware Some switch games WILL require an SD card as well as online to fully enjoy them!

Spider_Man · Sep 23, 2017

YUP NINTENDO DIDNT THINK OF THE COST FOR PUTTING GAMES ON A CART, YES LETS RELEASE A CONSOLE WITH NO INTERNAL STORAGE.

DEVS WILL LIKELY HAVE TO COMPRESS DATA, DECOMPRESS TO AN EXTERNAL SD CARD.

THIS CONSOLE IS JUST A TOTAL FUCK FEST

Deleted-355425 · Sep 23, 2017

kumikochan said:
that you don't get the full game without being online. So in 20 year times when the servers go down you won't have the full game on your cartridge making it worthless.

Scene will dump it all so dont panic.

Xathya · Sep 23, 2017

honest why people care so very very much about those feature? if you are a real person then you have mini SD card storage in your swicth, and even much more when the hax and romz will be avaliable to play this december xD

Preem · Sep 23, 2017

Xathya said:
honest why people care so very very much about those feature? if you are a real person then you have mini SD card storage in your swicth, and even much more when the hax and romz will be avaliable to play this december xD

It's not the storage drive concern. It's about the principal of the idea. Do you believe that it is right for companies to sell us, the consumer, an incomplete game in the cartridge you paid money for?

Xathya · Sep 23, 2017

Preem said:
It's not the storage drive concern. It's about the principal of the idea. Do you believe that it is right for companies to sell us, the consumer, an incomplete game in the cartridge you paid money for?

yes?

kumikochan · Sep 23, 2017

Xathya said:
yes?

Then you're a sellout and the reason the gaming industry is going to shit.

Xathya · Sep 23, 2017

kumikochan said:
Then you're a sellout and the reason the gaming industry is going to shit.

i think im helping the game industry a bit more than you friend..

kumikochan · Sep 23, 2017

Xathya said:
i think im helping the game industry a bit more than you friend..

And how is that ?

Preem · Sep 23, 2017

Xathya said:
yes?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you meant to say no since you included a question mark after your answer. There might be a bit of a language barrier here as well.

huma_dawii · Sep 23, 2017

I cant vote because this HAS NOTHING to do with Nintendo. This is a choise made by the third parties.

DarthDub · Sep 23, 2017

Stop bitching, save your money, get a microsd card.

SonicMC · Sep 23, 2017

Frankly, services and carts and sd cards and bandwidth and etc: cost money.
if you want certain features you often pay more. Whether that be the Amiibo tax, SD card tax, Online play tax. I don't blame companies for trying to make money. That is one of the objectives; shouldn't be the only one though.

I am happy that it is sd cards and not proprietary cards.
I would still like to see HDDs available in docked mode. That way I can have games for home and just put the games I would play on the go on the sd card.
Is kind of dumb to put part of the game for download only, especially for places of lesser internet availability. But, if they think it will be better for business and customers. Let them try it; only time will tell if they do it again.

Windaga · Sep 23, 2017

Doom's single player comes on the cartridge, and the multiplayer is a 9Gb download.

I don't really care either way. I can see why it would bother some people, and I can see why some people think it's fine. I have a SD card in my Switch and fast internet; I get the whole "what about 10 years in the future when the game downloads are no longer online" spiel, but when that happens, the servers will likely come down too, so it's not like you'd be able to play the multiplayer either way. At least, that's what I feel about Doom. In other cases, where the game has whole chunks of it missing that need to be downloaded, then that'll be a bit odder. But I guess we'll have to see what happens when it happens.

Subtle Demise · Sep 23, 2017

Xzi said:
JFC, stop ignoring what everybody is telling you. This isn't a Nintendo thing. It's an ALL CONSOLES thing. Hell, it's a PC thing too, or do you think you don't have to buy storage space there? Good news: it's 2017. Storage in all forms is cheap af. Nobody cares about being "required" to spend $10 - $20 to get a worthwhile amount of space. It's a $300 console, ffs.

It's not a storage thing, it's an internet infrastructure thing. In the US, it's still pretty haphazard. Many rural areas are either not served at all or if they are, there is maybe 1 or 2 options and both are sub-par and charge way too much for paltry speeds. Hell, the 4G LTE on my phone is twice as fast as my hone internet. Don't get me started on data caps. Re-downloading the average Steam library would go over many ISPs' data caps. Most don't strictly enforce it, but some like AT&T will add hundreds of dollars to your bill for data overages without any warning.

Its also a preservation thing. In 10 years, all that game data won't be available anymore.

Lucifer666 · Sep 23, 2017

CBA to read 11 pages but I don't understand why OP is acting like this is a Nintendo-exclusive problem.

Sure it would be nice if the Switch had more than 3 bytes of internal storage, but, generally speaking it's been a gaming industry standard for a while that whatever's on the disk isn't nearly the full game. Slip it into your console and it initiates a download, without which you basically can't do ****.

Nothing new here.

EDIT: Adding onto this, let's be real the only reason disks and cartridges still exist are because they're a(n attempt at a) physical form of DRM. Whether or not what's on there is complete is totally irrelevant.

MCNX · Sep 23, 2017

Honestly it was bad on Nintendo to give us only 32 GB I know less space most likely means cheaper but 32 GB is a joke. I should not have to buy a micro SD Card in order to play a game

Xzi · Sep 24, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
It's not a storage thing, it's an internet infrastructure thing. In the US, it's still pretty haphazard. Many rural areas are either not served at all or if they are, there is maybe 1 or 2 options and both are sub-par and charge way too much for paltry speeds. Hell, the 4G LTE on my phone is twice as fast as my hone internet. Don't get me started on data caps. Re-downloading the average Steam library would go over many ISPs' data caps. Most don't strictly enforce it, but some like AT&T will add hundreds of dollars to your bill for data overages without any warning.

Yeah ISPs are dicks, especially where they know they have a monopoly. Doesn't help that Trump wants to repeal net neutrality and make it even worse.

Subtle Demise said:
Its also a preservation thing. In 10 years, all that game data won't be available anymore.

There will definitely be complete ROMs/ISOs around.

kumikochan · Sep 24, 2017

Lucifer666 said:
CBA to read 11 pages but I don't understand why OP is acting like this is a Nintendo-exclusive problem.

Sure it would be nice if the Switch had more than 3 bytes of internal storage, but, generally speaking it's been a gaming industry standard for a while that whatever's on the disk isn't nearly the full game. Slip it into your console and it initiates a download, without which you basically can't do ****.

Nothing new here.

EDIT: Adding onto this, let's be real the only reason disks and cartridges still exist are because they're a(n attempt at a) physical form of DRM. Whether or not what's on there is complete is totally irrelevant.

again DLC- updates are add-ons. You still have the full game regardless of that on disc so that comparison doesn't fly.

Bladexdsl · Sep 24, 2017

Lucifer666 said:
CBA to read 11 pages but I don't understand why OP is acting like this is a Nintendo-exclusive problem.

because your not reading it properly what they are really doing

Xzi · Sep 24, 2017

Bladexdsl said:
because your not reading it properly what they are really doing

The good news is that everybody agrees NBA2K18 is a shit game. Even if you get past only half the game being on the cartridge, they're asking $150 for the "legendary" digital edition. Regardless of which edition you buy, it's still full of micro-transactions. So this whole "half-game" nonsense will probably go down in flames along with this game's review scores.

Hardware Some switch games WILL require an SD card as well as online to fully enjoy them!

Is this a dumb move by nintendo?

YES

NO

Who fucking cares when are the HAX coming?

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