Is JAP still considered a racial slur?

benplaut · Aug 28, 2006

Here in Hawaii, roughly 40% have some amount of japanese in them.

In general, nobody seems to care... nor do use haolies care about being called thusly

mario5555 · Aug 28, 2006

I wholeheartedly agree with Z Hunter just use JPN and your set and safe, no one with a uber-PC anal retentiveness compulsion will have a stroke reading it if you went that way.

I myself have taken to using JPN all the time now, not because of PC-ness just because it's how it should have been all along.

QUOTE said:
It's still a slur, period. If you use it, and I don't give a damn whether or not you intend to offend, then you're an idiot. The whole excuse behind this is that people are too lazy to type out Japan or Japanese. If you are one of these bastards who lack the energy to type a few, extra keystrokes, then use J or JP or just be silent.

Whaa...gimme a break.

There are alot more offensive things to say than that, that's just ignorant that's it's due to laziness 100% of the time. You know it, I know it.

What's wrong with using JPN. It's common, covers what you want to say, and everyone will know what you mean.

As for the last bolded statement, please take your own advice.

(Considering you are condescending and rude in what you are advising anyway)

'Nuff said.

cruddybuddy · Aug 28, 2006

The very fact that most of you people have used the word "Jap" in your replies proves that it is not nearly as offensive as most of the other slurs out there. I'd like to see how many of you here would throw around the "African" slur.

blizeH · Aug 28, 2006

I'm of the opinion that unless something was meant in an offensive manner, then it really shouldn't be taken as derogatory.

'Jap' is short for Japanese, I'm sure there are plenty of people who'll use the shortened version without meaning any harm what so ever.

Ignorant yes, but offensive? It shouldn't be.

mthrnite · Aug 28, 2006

QUOTE(cruddybuddy @ Aug 28 2006 said:
I'd like to see how many of you here would throw around the "African" slur.

cruddybuddy took the words right out of my mouth. Very good point!

I know there's a revolt against being "PC", in my country at least, but hopefully that won't stop people from being civil to their fellow humans.
So far nobody I know has gone to jail for saying the n-word, otherwise my dad would be serving life without parole.
Slurs belong in fistfights, not in casual conversation. Ignorance can be forgiven, but venom begets venom.
I think most who would continue using a derogatory name after someone calls them on it, are being venomous.
They may be hiding behind "just making a point", but that's pretty transparent.

So, does anybody of somewhat pure JAPANESE descent wanna chime in on this?

Mucuna · Aug 28, 2006

Do you think offensive to be called GRINGO?

Here everybody calls the tourists gringo. Well, just the anglo-saxon ones.

Pochi · Aug 28, 2006

I've been to Japan last month and talking in English with a pure "Jap" there, referring himself as a Jap and calling caucasians people Gaijin without any malice at all...
So I guess it's not that indecent... I could use this word in front of him... but maybe it's because he's young (23)... I wouldn't call an old yakuza chief a Jap...not without a bazooka at least...

Another possible comparison would be "Viet" for Vietnamese... I know that some caucasian people seem offended when I refer to Vietnamese people that way. But actually, it's normal for me as I'm Viet myself and "Viet" is the vietnamese word to name the Vietnamese people...
All this reminds me of the movie "Rush Hour" when Tucker came to the bar with his "Afro-American" friends and greeted them with something ''sup, my n****?" and then Chan came in and imitated him...

mthrnite · Aug 28, 2006

QUOTE(Mucuna @ Aug 28 2006 said:
Do you think offensive to be called GRINGO?

Yeah, I don't like to be called gringo, a lot of us crackers don't

I used to work in a thrift shop. Amongst a LOT of Mexicans, Dominicans, etc... They would call me gringo until I told them I didn't like it, then they stopped. We had a very nice work environment, we were all colors/nationalities, but we found quickly what we had in common.
We were all POOR!
Interestingly, after the "gringo" thing, one of the Mexicans taught me not to call everybody who wasn't black and wasn't white a "Mexican". I thought it was ironic coming from someone from Mexico, but I took her point pretty quickly. Hispanic covers all the bases, and isn't disrespectful to anybody (that I know of.)

Basically if you can err on the side of respect, it's all good.

And Pochi makes a good point about humor (and the Randal porch monkey thing from earlier), in humor there's a lot less rules, and that's good. Comedy is the opposite of Gravity

Of course you're free to be an asshole too, just watch your back

Tuxedo Kamen · Aug 28, 2006

Mostly yes, it is considered offensive.

DjoeN · Aug 28, 2006

It's difficult to say: He are you JPN.

But yes, JAP is easy typed and sayd, still i preffer to say the whole word (Japanese), or when typing JPN
Why:

Just to be sure to not offend anyone

Personnaly i really don't care and i think it's not offensive anymore

(I wonder how you guys call us South-Koreans?)

S-kors ?, So-kos?,

héhé

(To get some stuff cleared, i'm born in South Korea, and adopted in Belgium

)

Personaly i think my roots are on mars or any other planet, but sure not earth!

karamu · Aug 28, 2006

you may not find japanese living in western society finding it too offensive, however as someone who has many japanese friends who have only been in a western country a short time, they find Jap very offensive. once i had explained to them that in most cases it is used as an abbreviation they realised its not so bad in many cases, however still sensitive to how it is used. I make a point never to use the abbreviation Jap in front of my friends.

It all depends on the person.. but it is better to be cautious and sensitive to their feelings and not use it then to use it and offend them. i mean really is it that hard to say japanese. i do it without even thinking now that i made the effort to remove jap from my vocab.

I move to japan this sunday, and Jap will certainly be a word i won't be using.. haha.

Edit: come to think of it, english won't be a language i'll be using too much.. haha

Hanafuda · Aug 28, 2006

QUOTE said:
Is JAP still considered a racial slur?

Based on the responses to this thread, the answer seems to be "only if youre not Japanese."

My wife is Japanese, as is my 14-year old stepson. My 3 year old daughter and 1 year old son are half Japanese.

Being "Japanese" is rather unique, as to the Japanese people it is both their nationality and their race. So when they feel insulted for being Japanese, its a double slam, and a lot more personal. That doesn't mean Japanese people can't have a sense of humor about it in the right context, but I have to respectfully disagree with Opium that being called "Aussie" is the equivalent to being called Jap. Not even close.

While its easy to say its being overly-politically correct to refrain from using "JAP," I don't see us making a regular practice of using other racial epithets that members of the affected race would rather not hear. So what's the justification for doing it to the Japanese, except that you consider them less worthy of your respect?

mthrnite · Aug 28, 2006

QUOTE(DjoeNtje @ Aug 28 2006 said:
Personaly i think my roots are on mars or any other planet, but sure not earth!

Do you prefer Martian or Mars-Earthian?

mthrnite · Aug 28, 2006

Thank you Hanafuda!

I think that about sums it up.
Is there really anything left to say on this topic?

HugeCock · Aug 28, 2006

Using Jap is an abbrivation when talking about games. Nuff said. People abriviate the source of the games.

USA = United States of America
Euro = Eurpope
Jap = Japan

So @The Spade and everyone else who think we need to actually spell out the word Japanese then shouldn't you spell out European? No, cause we are abriviating a country not using it to attack someone. All this PC shit can be quite a lot of bull shit at times. Being a white man in a multicultual world I have to say that I am always walking on eggshells and now days weather I am in Miami, to Chicago to Canada I am often an equal mix or actually the minority which makes it hard to talk a lot of times. Perfect example was last night at Dennys when my BLACK friend was like "Tell me about those dates you had with that Spanish and black chick" and it was hard as hell for me to talk cause I am trying to be all PC correct...."Uh gee Nikki....I...uh...date...lots..of girls...which..one was the black one?"

/me thinks to myself....damn that was close I coulda came off racist.

In conclusion I am also dating an actual Japanese chick and when I blog about her I call her that Asain chick which she is okay with cause she read my blog and continues to see me however when I refer to playing the Jap version of FFIII I will refer to it as just that cause in that context I don't think it should be offenseive.

yuyuyup · Aug 28, 2006

I can't believe my post was censored, also TheSpade totally sucks

Eruonen · Aug 28, 2006

I usually say JAP not meaning anything offensive with it.

QUOTE(HugeCock @ Aug 28 2006 said:
USA = United States of America
Euro = Eurpope
Jap = Japan

Actually Europe = EU

QUOTE(vancitypimp @ Aug 27 2006 said:

I would think calling a Japanese person "Chinese" would be more offensive to them than Jap.

Click to expand...

How about Chinaman?

corbs132 · Aug 28, 2006

btw, yup not a good idea to insult mods who can banz0r you

DrKupo · Aug 28, 2006

TheSpade is a tard. Ignore him.

Moving past that, no, it is not considered a racial slur.

Covarr · Aug 28, 2006

Some consider it is, some consider it isn't. It often can depend on the context; in speech it might be seen as offensive, but in the context of ROM nationality abbrevs, it might not.

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