Sony Comes Clean- Personal Data Stolen

TheLostSabre · Apr 27, 2011

jaxxster said:
Also this happened beween the 16th-19th April. shame its take sony nearly 2 weeks to come clean. Also how the hell did sony not figure out automatically that someone was downloading a HUGE amount of data from thier servers!?

Keeping face is a must for cooperation though I see no point in it since it further shows they value themselves more than their customers. Secrets aren't meant to be secret for long, you dig?

With their lax security, it's no wonder why they didn't find out their servers were compromised until it already happened.

jaxxster · Apr 27, 2011

Just goes to show Sony really dont have a clue when it comes to Security or Public Relations.

I wonder how much thier PSN user base will drop by after this!

Fluto · Apr 27, 2011

On Aussies Channel Ten News.
got some details wrong, but i cant remember wat

Miss Panda · Apr 27, 2011

jaxxster said:
Also this happened beween the 16th-19th April. shame its take sony nearly 2 weeks to come clean. Also how the hell did sony not figure out automatically that someone was downloading a HUGE amount of data from thier servers!?

According to German news sources earlier today they knew but kept their mouth shut. Which means they willingly put their users at risk by not informing people straight away. Can you say lawsuit?

jaxxster · Apr 27, 2011

Plus they also kept a log of your TV, ps3 model, usb devices attached. This is beyond a fuck up

Isnt it some consumer law stating that as soon as personal info is comprimised customers must be informed straight away?

TheLostSabre · Apr 27, 2011

But big cooperation don't need to follow teh rulez! With teh power they attain, they can bend teh rules teh way they see fit!

Miss Panda · Apr 27, 2011

jaxxster said:
Plus they also kept a log of your TV, ps3 model, usb devices attached. This is beyond a fuck up

Isnt it some consumer law stating that as soon as personal info is comprimised customers must be informed straight away?In 2009 the EU was going to update and enforce uniform rules across EU states regarding privacy laws. This was the proposed clause that would be relevant here.
QUOTEIn the case of a personal data breach, the provider of publicly available electronic
communications services shall, without undue delay, notify the personal data breach to
the competent national authority.
When the personal data breach is likely to adversely affect the personal data and privacy
of a subscriber or an individual , the provider shall also notify the subscriber or individual
of the breach without undue delay.
Notification of a personal data breach to a subscriber or individual concerned shall not be
required if the provider has demonstrated to the satisfaction of the competent authority
that it has implemented appropriate technological protection measures, and those
measures were applied to the data concerned by the security breach. Such technological
protection measures shall render the data unintelligible to any person who is not
authorized to access the data

I cannot find out if this was implemented. It would seem not.

http://www.privacylaws.com/Documents/data_..._conference.pdf

ultimate.fake.ac · Apr 27, 2011

jaxxster said:
Plus they also kept a log of your TV, ps3 model, usb devices attached. This is beyond a fuck up

Isnt it some consumer law stating that as soon as personal info is comprimised customers must be informed straight away?

This isn't what is in the news, so unfortunately only a small few will know about this. I'm not surprised about this in the least though. I'm glad I chose to not buy sony products.

Miss Panda · Apr 27, 2011

The relevant section of the law for EU ers is
Article 17 of Directive 95/46/EC it would appear (and I'm willing to be corrected here) that the duty to notify was discussed at EU level but never incorporated into Article 17.
It was decided that each EU countries Data Protection Authority (they are required to have one) gets to police their own country.

In other words Sony may get away with this. Surely this has to prompt a change in the law. Too late for Sony's victims mind you.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/policies/privacy/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/policies/priva...ukingdom_en.pdf
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getAll...amp;language=EN

Satangel · Apr 27, 2011

Well, I don't even want to know how much more secure the next PlayStation will be and how much it will cost. This is a mistake they won't make twice.

ultimate.fake.ac · Apr 27, 2011

Thought I would look up some of the bigwigs of Sony just to be a little more informed, I thought some of the comments Jack Tretton President and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment of America had to say were quite humorous:

QUOTE said:
Jack Tretton is known for making a number of controversial comments, which detractors claim are belittling and uninformed, including referring to the Wii as a "lollipop" and the Xbox 360 an "unreliable cook."[5] Most recently, in touting Sony's upcoming portable gaming device (currently dubbed the NGP), Tretton noted that the competing Nintendo 3DS provides a "Game Boy experience", claiming adults would not want to be seen using one.
"Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting twenty-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those," Tretton said. "He's too old for that."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Tretton

Looks like Howard Stringer has the biggest wig of them all though.

exentro · Apr 27, 2011

Satangel said:
Well, I don't even want to know how much more secure the next PlayStation will be and how much it will cost. This is a mistake they won't make twice.

It's a mistake that should have never happened. You don't store personal user information carelessly. It'll take more than a "we're sorry" this time.

leeday100196 · Apr 27, 2011

I don't care how badly the PSN is affected, as long as it gets back up stronger than before. I'm patient. Heck, this was just the break I needed to get ~~more~~ better cars in Split/Second before going online. I'm not about to PAY for online anyway, so I would not DARE think about getting an XBox just because PSN spends a few days down. I pity the impatient that can't last more than a few days without their CoD (or other addictive game) online service. They need to grow up.

overlord00 · Apr 27, 2011

best thing i heard all day

Miss Panda · Apr 27, 2011

The worst thing about this apart from Sony's inexcusable delay in warning it's users. Is that Anon have stated that they are not responsible. They had promised vengeance for Sony's lawsuit against George Hotz. At least if it was Anon we could (I think) be fairly assured that the credit card data would not be misused.

But as it stands those banking details are not safe. And just because no one touches your account in the next month does not make it safe. If six months down the line your banking details are misused it wouldn't be the first time banking detail thieves have waited.

Lulling people and the banks themselves into a false sense of security by waiting before going in for the kill just when you think you are in the clear is a known tactic.

Zorua · Apr 27, 2011

Wow, this is bad for people who had stored credit card numbers on their PS3.
Doesn't really make a difference for me because I never entered any personal info.
Sony should give everyone a free game/ free playstation plus subscription to compensate for the lost time and data.
Being the greedy giant they are, I don't think they would give away anything.

EDIT: Is pix down?

leeday100196 · Apr 27, 2011

Zorua said:
Wow, this is bad for people who had stored credit card numbers on their PS3.
Doesn't really make a difference for me because I never entered any personal info.
Sony should give everyone a free game/ free playstation plus subscription to compensate for the lost time and data.
Being the greedy giant they are, I don't think they would give away anything.

EDIT: Is pix down?

If this happens, let's hope thhey don't put a value on it, I'll grab the next BLOPS map pack free!

jonesman99 · Apr 27, 2011

I took time out of writing a 20 page paper just to comment on this... Even though I have and use an XBox 360 with XBL, this is sad... but funny at the same time.

Its sad because innocent people are getting caught up in this, the issue is with the corporate office, not the users.

On the other hand, its funny because this is getting Sony to address all the security issues they have been avoiding since the beginning.

But still, something has gotta give. Does this little situation effect PSN users worldwide or just in America?

Miss Panda · Apr 27, 2011

jonesman99 said:
Does this little situation effect PSN users worldwide or just in America?

Worldwide

exentro · Apr 27, 2011

Here in Belgium it's the same. Local newspapers even put it on their website front page.

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