Kiwi Farms is finally no more. Cloudflare, hCaptcha and DDoS-Guard dropped support for the website

[MikaDubbz]

Those small victories still feel great, at least to me, even though they might mean next to nothing. Now that Kiwi Farms is under the spotlight and the forums are possibly gone forever those toxic users will never be able to group up in such sizes ever again

I can appreciate that. I don't want to take away the small victories from anybody. But ones like this just feel so hopeless to me. Because I feel like within 5 years we'll have another site just like Kiwifarms on that same level and magnitude. I really hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not. I want to find the real solution here, and short of anything unethical, I'm really bummed out to recognize that there probably isn't a true solution to the problem.

 

[leejaclane]

I'm all for shitposting, but even as a joke I don't particularly consider it funny to say that a white nationalist who wants people like me dead is actually trans. I shouldn't expect better from someone who frequented 8chan though.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I can appreciate that. I don't want to take away the small victories from anybody. But ones like this just feel so hopeless to me. Because I feel like within 5 years we'll have another site just like Kiwifarms on that same level and magnitude. I really hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not. I want to find the real solution here, and short of anything unethical, I'm really bummed out to recognize that there probably isn't a true solution to the problem.

Like I said, these sites are in the public consciousness now. Hell even MTG, batshit crazy as she is, was swatted by some schizo on that site. Sites like this are undeniably a part of public discourse now and because of that we're gonna see a lot of discussion on where "speech" and "action" end, discussion I think we've needed to have out of necessity for situations like this, but we sure as shit are going to have them now.

At the end of the day I'm not as doomer about it, because I have faith in a lot of discourse with the online left to handle this appropriately and push for better legal action. Keffals for example is using her platform to organize canvassing and other political action for groups seeking to fight this exact kind of shit, and on top of that the domains for Kiwi Farms are being redirected to pro-trans sites to give people access and assistance with transitioning.

So don't sweat the details, because the future is a lot brighter than it may seem initially.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I'm all for shitposting, but even as a joke I don't particularly consider it funny to say that a white nationalist who wants people like me dead is actually trans. I shouldn't expect better from someone who frequented 8chan though.

ok joke police very good contribution to the thread thank you

 

[City]

I can appreciate that. I don't want to take away the small victories from anybody. But ones like this just feel so hopeless to me. Because I feel like within 5 years we'll have another site just like Kiwifarms on that same level and magnitude. I really hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not. I want to find the real solution here, and short of anything unethical, I'm really bummed out to recognize that there probably isn't a true solution to the problem.

I don't belileve that you're really 35.

An adult should know that a "hidden" website like a random .onion one like Kiwifawms is going to be come will never, ever have as much of a cult following as what it could have if it was a regular website, or Twitter user, or whatever else of mainstream. Because the average person is dumb as shit and would absolutely harm people with mental disabilities if they could. Leaving this kind of behavior out of the norm is a lot better than you think.

ok joke police very good contribution to the thread thank you

 

[MikaDubbz]

Like I said, these sites are in the public consciousness now. Hell even MTG, batshit crazy as she is, was swatted by some schizo on that site. Sites like this are undeniably a part of public discourse now and because of that we're gonna see a lot of discussion on where "speech" and "action" end, discussion I think we've needed to have out of necessity for situations like this, but we sure as shit are going to have them now.

At the end of the day I'm not as doomer about it, because I have faith in a lot of discourse with the online left to handle this appropriately and push for better legal action. Keffals for example is using her platform to organize canvassing and other political action for groups seeking to fight this exact kind of shit, and on top of that the domains for Kiwi Farms are being redirected to pro-trans sites to give people access and assistance with transitioning.

So don't sweat the details, because the future is a lot brighter than it may seem initially.

I sincerely hope your attitude is the correct one to follow, but again, my gut says you're wrong. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I can't celebrate this kind of 'victory' because to me it feels hollow and disingenuous. More shit will go down from these people in the coming years, even months. I feel like to pretend everything is great now would be to turn a blind eye to reality.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I don't belileve that you're really 35.

An adult should know that a "hidden" website like a random .onion one like Kiwifawms is going to be come will never, ever have as much of a cult following as what it could have if it was a regular website, or Twitter user, or whatever else of mainstream. Because the average person is dumb as shit and would absolutely harm people with mental disabilities if they could. Leaving this kind of behavior out of the norm is a lot better than you think.

To add to this, most .onion sites are huge fed honeypots. So at first people might think they're hot shit using KiwiFarms through that but they're going to absolutely get shitcanned real quick doing it. On top of the incredibly low numbers through slow as fuck performance and the initial gap required in even getting on the darkweb in the first place, they're also all likely making themselves huge targets for fed investigations

 

[sombrerosonic]

THE CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MikaDubbz]

I don't belileve that you're really 35.

An adult should know that a "hidden" website like a random .onion one like Kiwifawms is going to be come will never, ever have as much of a cult following as what it could have if it was a regular website, or Twitter user, or whatever else of mainstream. Because the average person is dumb as shit and would absolutely harm people with mental disabilities if they could. Leaving this kind of behavior out of the norm is a lot better than you think.

No offense dude, but you lost your shit at me because you were unfamiliar with a very common English phrase. Your thoughts mean very little to me.

 

[City]

No offense dude, but you lost your shit at me because you were unfamiliar with a very common English phrase. Your thoughts mean very little to me.

"I'm a retard and have written a retarded hot take but I must make it so it's someone else's fault" - you

 

[City]

THE CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everywhere.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I sincerely hope your attitude is the correct one to follow, but again, my gut says you're wrong. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I can't celebrate this kind of 'victory' because to me it feels hollow and disingenuous. More shit will go down from these people in the coming years, even months. I feel like to pretend everything is great now would be to turn a blind eye to reality.

To quote one of my favorite lines from literature,

"By continually forcing to subvert those creeping negative thoughts with the positive logical ones, the emotional mind will eventually, slowly, gradually start to shape to fit the logical."

This is, of course, not fitting your situation to a T, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's best to focus on and be aware of the positive aspects to this rather than the negative, because it lets you know who to back and what actions you can do to improve the situation should it go south.

"I'm a retard and have written a retarded hot take but I must make it so it's someone else's fault" - you

why do you get mad when people troll you when you say vile shit like this to people regularly? Chill out. Sit down. Mika is cool.

THE CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MODS PLEASE LET ME DELETE MY OWN POSTS I BEG YOU

 

[LainaGabranth]

mods please let me delete my own posts so triple replies like this stop holy balls AHHHH

 

[LainaGabranth]

snibbidy snab

 

[MikaDubbz]

"I'm a retard and have written a retarded hot take but I must make it so it's someone else's fault" - you

I'm a retard because I think shutting down this website doesn't stop these awful people from the awful things that they do. Then I'm full on retard. I'll own that any day.

 

[City]

snibbidy snab 2: elegsdric boogaloo DD

I'm a retard because I think shutting down this website doesn't stop these awful people from the awful things that they do. Then I'm full on retard. I'll own that any day.

You're a retard because you replied to someone correcting your stupid-ass take with "hurrrrr b-but you huwt my feewings in another twead".

 

[LainaGabranth]

City, please quit posting just to be mad.

 

[MikaDubbz]

To quote one of my favorite lines from literature,

"By continually forcing to subvert those creeping negative thoughts with the positive logical ones, the emotional mind will eventually, slowly, gradually start to shape to fit the logical."

This is, of course, not fitting your situation to a T, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's best to focus on and be aware of the positive aspects to this rather than the negative, because it lets you know who to back and what actions you can do to improve the situation should it go south.

I can appreciate where you're coming from. Again I don't want to take away anyone's victories here. I feel a lot of hostility (not just from you) when I'm just sharing my genuine opinion on what this website shutdown truly means. I want kiwifarms being shut down to solve everything in this regard, but I know that would be the incorrect takeaway for sure. I like that this has slowed things down, that is certainly a good thing to see. But again, I want to find that actual solution to the bigger problem here. Kiwifarms was just a symptom of the actual problem here not the true issue for what it actually is.

 

[MikaDubbz]

You're a retard because you replied to someone correcting your stupid-ass take with "hurrrrr b-but you huwt my feewings in another twead".

Look man, if that's how you read it, then I completely understand how I came across as a retard to you. But really my only point stands, I don't think shutting down this website will stop these awful people from the awful things that they do, oh and I have no respect for your opinion because of that other thing and definitely how you're acting now too.

 

[Kioku]

So, uh... We just freely throwing around a derogatory slur commonly used to berate people with special needs? This is happening?

Also, what even is this thread? I knew it devolved quickly, but this is worse than I thought.

Edit: it just now occurred to me this thread was moved to a section better off buried. It all makes sense now. I literally only found it because people keep liking my post..