Anti-White Assault (NYPD Hate Crimes; Kevin Sheehan) [Original Title: NYC victim of ‘anti-white’ crime says suspect accused her of being Trump fan]

[tabzer]

Boy do I have some bad news for you on that one, racist. These ideas of race will die with it and you'll have to be told a new trait by your masters to be mad at.

Who's mad at race here? It's the management that sucks. Pretending that it's not a real thing when the political party you support makes sure that everyone knows that it's a real thing makes it seem like you are totally oblivious or just lying.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

There is a study called the Eyferth Study, a study of the kids of African American service men in Germany and they had the same IQ as their classmates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyferth_study

I would appreciate direct links instead of wikipedia due to my living in China. It´s a hassle to access. But I found information elsewhere. My initial suspicion has been confirmed:
The American military acts as a filter for intelligence. Perhaps not as much as a university, but "He has also noted that the IQs of the children's mothers and fathers are unknown, and that white and black G.I.'s in Germany were not equally representative of their respective populations, since about 30 percent of blacks, compared to about 3 percent of whites, failed the preinduction mental test and were not admitted into the armed forces." (https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Eyferth_study)
There are other problems with the study as well, such as the obvious male to female difference (sample error?) and, in my view, a low sample size. Furthermore, this study is an exception.

There is also IQ tests administered during World War 1. White Soldiers from Georgia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Mississippi had lower IQ then Black Soldiers from Illinois, Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania. Another indicator that IQ had cultural influence and not racial in origin.

Otto Klineberg, Race Differences, NY: Harper and Brothers, 1935, pp. 183-184.

I can´t look into the study. Do you have a link where I can access it for free?
But since it´s about the military: see above.
I also wouldn´t compare the inmates in prison because it is also a filter for IQ (but in reverse).

Also when you isolate Blacks in bad neighborhoods that had the opportunity to access to better education, they generally perform better then Blacks in the same neighborhood that go to bad public schools.

And when you compare most Blacks that attend Harvard. Most blacks in Harvard are from the West Indies or Africa, usually people with money that are not disadvantaged. Alot less American Blacks in Harvard. Another indicator that native Africans do not have inherently worse IQ and alot has to do wealth and access to education.

Obviously. I don´t claim that there are no black geniuses or that education can improve outcome. All I´m saying is that there are significant genetic differences which make it impossible to close the gap without massive intervention and mistreatment of other races. Again, you cannot compare university students (filter effect) to the general population. It would be like saying that the Chinese are also very tall because their basketball players are tall and Yao Ming is extremely tall.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Here's a question
Do black people in better economic conditions have higher IQ than those in worse economic conditions?

 

[tabzer]

Here's a question
Do black people in better economic conditions have higher IQ than those in worse economic conditions?

What are black people?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Here's a question
Do black people in better economic conditions have higher IQ than those in worse economic conditions?

Yes. Obviously.
Just as you could massively reduce Einstein´s performance by limiting his food supply. But we couldn´t turn you into Einstein no matter what we give you. See North Koreans. In a generation or two they could probably integrate into South Korean society just fine. In fact, it has happened with defectors (but the sample size is small: a large one could be seen after reunification). But the problem with Subsaharan Africans persists in any country. Unless you put them through a filter and exclude a large part of them, like a university.
My challenge still stands btw. Show me any country, continent or city in which the pattern is reversed.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Yes. Obviously

GASP! IQ is environmental then!
Ggez

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

GASP! IQ is environmental then!
Ggez

And genetic to a significant degree.

Let´s say Einstein´s IQ was 160. We could beat him up every day and let him starve: 100.
But we just can´t do anything about your IQ of 65. You don´t understand basic logic.

 

[appleburger]

This youtuber did a more thorough job refuting this topic than I ever could, so I'll just drop it, here:

 

[tabzer]

If you doubt that behavior is also predisposed to genetic influence, then you haven't been paying attention to the science. Behavior can be learned and passed down, suggesting that the evolution of behavior is a lot more dynamic than the evolution of physical traits. We never stopped creating new races. Maybe the American race will be officially recognized someday; but before an equilibrium is established--I do not know.

 

[Ephemeral9]

Maybe the American race will be officially recognized someday.

Depending on who/where you ask, we're pretty recognizable already.

 

[tabzer]

Depending on who/where you ask, we're pretty recognizable already.

As a "race" though? For the moment, I thought it is still perceived as a conglomerate of races. I guess I haven't asked people who think so.

 

[LainaGabranth]

This youtuber did a more thorough job refuting this topic than I ever could, so I'll just drop it, here:

Yep. Racial biological essentialism has been rebuked for decades now. I love seeing brainlets call environmental factors biologically sourced.

 

[tabzer]

Someone said that the environment is biologically sourced? Sounds like a narcissist.

 

[Ephemeral9]

As a "race" though? For the moment, I thought it is still perceived as a conglomerate of races. I guess I haven't asked people who think so.

I suppose not; I will admit I was being facetious/cheeky about it.

 

[tabzer]

I suppose not; I will admit I was being facetious/cheeky about it.

I appreciated the exercise. I was genuinely caught off-guard.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

You are crying over me not tailoring a response to your approval.

More like you making shit up

(rather than quoting someone, or @'ing someone) it's something you do a lot. Since gbatemp generally speaking, prioritizes quotes over replies. And the reply notification generally tends to stop at some point.

You could do an @ someone if you don't want to click reply. Something I already said.

If I respond directly after you say something, you get the alert I said something. You can read what I say and follow that it is a response

See above quote from me. Aka "Since gbatemp generally speaking, prioritizes quotes over replies" the same goes for mentions. Replies get ignored at some point. And you know that it does.

You can read what I say and follow that it is a response. You are being intellectually lazy and acting entitled.

If I get the ping. Which you intentionally avoid doing. FFs. You look guilty as hell after I called you out on it and THEN you replied/mentioned/methods to ping me.

You talk about wasting space but you want me to engage in active redundancy.

Oh wow look, you grandstanding after I just established in this very reply. "Something I already said."
More like you completely side step arguments and then I have to go pull up previously stated shit since you love to do non sequiturs.

And you shouldn't. There is no reason to trust me. The betrayal of trust happened

More grand standing when you don't have any evidence to support your claim.

I already explained why your argument doesn't make sense. Tl;Dr version of it.
There's not a whole lot of ways to interpret your signature. Your previous behavior of using that signature conflicts with your current usage of it. And it's from members who would likely disagree with you. And then trying to say that's a "gbatemp cliché" is also not logical because it's clearly it's not a cliché if people don't do it.

These are not facts-first oriented people. It makes their "approval" cliché

See what the fuck I mean with you and non sequiturs.

You just said

practically a gbatemp cliché.

Saying that implies that many people do it. Unless your reading comprehension is utterly busted because cliché means:
a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
So you went from a position of "this is a gbatemp (general) cliché" which arguably doesn't make any godamn sense since it's not over used or used at all for that matter. But now it's "cliché" localized to certain people. Okay. Suuuuuuuuuuuuure
If it's not obivious I'm using copious amounts of scarcasm.

The betrayal of trust happened when you tried interpreting my intention and then saw contradiction in it.

Tabzer. Dude. That's not how trust works holy fuck lmao. What i did, is truly special. Get ready. It's absolutely crazy idea. Truly insane.
(Gets close to mic)
making an argument

wow. Who would of thought of that.

In other words your contorting so hard to stick your head up your ass further than anyone else can. If you have to argue that making an argument is a "BeTrAyL of TrUsT" you're the entire circus hands down.

Your interpretation is not a statement of fact. It's a reflection of your own insecurity--especially considering that there are other, more likely, reasons as to why I would do such a thing

Insecurity of what? Pointing out your bs? And further more. If it was true that you had another reason. Why be so vague to the point that you don't talk about your actual reason?

And even then I'd doubt your "actual reason" since already on this specific subject mater you proven that your willing to play dishonestly. Via changing your stances and ignoring arguments that I've already stated that disprove your later arguments.

because you thought it was low-hanging fruit you could grasp in lieu of saying something insightful on topic

Here we have tabzer grandstanding in his natural habitat. Grasping for straws that aren't even there.
Remember the whole "nobody likes to respond to you after disproving you time and time again" part?
Here's where that applies. Since now twice. You tried to rope me into this discussion here. Which if we go back to my initial statements.

'm laughing rn tabzer at your status, how pathetic do you need to be that you use a image of people's reactions as a status.

Here I establish that I am only talking about your status.

Edit: if it isn't clear, it has nothing to do with the topic, as I've been quiet this whole thread eating popcorn for the most part.

And even more clear that I'm not interested in arguing on the subject/is off topic.
Hence you trying to spin my attempt to move it into dm's so mods don't delete our discussion since it's vastly off topic.

If you don't want to talk about this in public, then apologize and flake off. DM me and I'll rightly tell you to fuck off--my sig is serving its purpose

is incredibly halarious and sad.

Which I'm going to have to leave it here. You can slide into my DM's if you want to keep talking. Since invetibly if we keep talking the thread is either going to get locked, or the responses are deleted.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I'm surprised you invest so much energy in replying to tabzer given he never actually says anything

 

[Deleted member 586536]

I'm surprised you invest so much energy in replying to tabzer given he never actually says anything

I still wonder why I respond to him at all. Can't go 5 seconds without pointing out something I found sad or pethetic that he's done without him forcing my hand to turn it into a 6 page MLA format essay

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Snipped (dumb phone moment.)

 

[GenNaz]

High-key eugenics theory happening in this thread, what the fuck.