Internal vs. USB vs. disc vs. Ps3NetServ

[godreborn]

My games are on an external HDD connected to the PC and I use SMB. Is it slower than if the games were on the PC's HDD?

probably wouldn't matter.

 

[xoINARIox]

My games are on an external HDD connected to the PC and I use SMB. Is it slower than if the games were on the PC's HDD?

No that's fine......oh and for smb you can also use a raspberry pi with psx pi smbshare

https://github.com/toolboc/psx-pi-smbshare

 

[Windows_10_User]

No that's fine......oh and for smb you can also use a raspberry pi with psx pi smbshare

https://github.com/toolboc/psx-pi-smbshare

And what about an USB device connected to a nano router (connected to the PS2 via its ethernet port)? Is the SMB speed always the same regardless of the device?

 

[godreborn]

And what about to a USB device connected to the router or to a USB device connected to the nano router? Is the SMB speed always the same regardless of the device?

should be. the ps3 and 360 use smb 1.0, which is garbage.

 

[Windows_10_User]

should be. the ps3 and 360 use smb 1.0, which is garbage.

I was talking about the PS2. What's the PS2's SMB version and is it possible to run OPL via SMB on a PS3 Slim?

 

[xoINARIox]

SMB 1.0 and no.........you cannot use opl on a ps3 slim

 

[Windows_10_User]

SMB 1.0 and no.........you cannot use opl on a ps3 slim

I saw some videos of OPL working on the PS3. Maybe it only works on a PS3 Fat?

 

[xoINARIox]

I saw some videos of OPL working in PS3. Maybe it only works in PS3 Fat?

Yes only for backwards compatible PS3 Fat consoles.........

There are 3 PS2 emus in the latest PS3 firmwares:
ps2_emu.self (with USB support) <--- for COK-001 motherboards
ps2_gxemu.self (with USB support) <--- for COK-002 motherboards
ps2_netemu.self (without USB support) <--- for all the other motherboards
COK-001 motherboard have the PS2 EE+GS, so the emulation is made 99% by hardware
COK-002 motherboard have the PS2 GS only (Not the EE), so the emulation is made 50% by hardware
The other motherboards doesnt have the PS2 EE+GS, so the emulation is made 100% by software
OPL only works in the PS2 emus with USB peripheral support (ps2_emu.self & ps2_gxemu.self)
In ps2_netemu.self they removed the USB and network support

 

[Windows_10_User]

Yes only for backwards compatible PS3 Fat consoles.........

There are 3 PS2 emus in the latest PS3 firmwares:
ps2_emu.self (with USB support) <--- for COK-001 motherboards
ps2_gxemu.self (with USB support) <--- for COK-002 motherboards
ps2_netemu.self (without USB support) <--- for all the other motherboards
COK-001 motherboard have the PS2 EE+GS, so the emulation is made 99% by hardware
COK-002 motherboard have the PS2 GS only (Not the EE), so the emulation is made 50% by hardware
The other motherboards doesnt have the PS2 EE+GS, so the emulation is made 100% by software
OPL only works in the PS2 emus with USB peripheral support (ps2_emu.self & ps2_gxemu.self)
In ps2_netemu.self they removed the USB and network support

And does it require SwapMagic and/or physical modifications?

 

[xoINARIox]

And does it require Swap Magic and/or hardware modifications?

I've never installed it personally, but ........yes you need swap magic (maybe Placeholder works with Cobra CFW.....)

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/opl-0-9-3-ps2-emulator-instructions-for-use-with-the-ps3.12286/

 

[Windows_10_User]

I've never installed it personally, but ........yes you need swap magic (maybe Placeholder works with Cobra CFW.....)

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/opl-0-9-3-ps2-emulator-instructions-for-use-with-the-ps3.12286/

And what about physical modifications? What's Placeholder?

 

[xoINARIox]

What do you mean by hardware modifications......there are none.

PS2 placeholder is what you use when you mount a ps2 iso with cobra....

 

[Windows_10_User]

What do you mean by hardware modifications......there are none.

PS2 placeholder is what you use when you mount a ps2 iso with cobra....

If the console involves unscrewing and soldering. I'm asking this because I read the SwapMagic PS2 Developer Wiki and it says small modifications have to be made to prevent the system from detecting the drive being opened.

 

[xoINARIox]

If one needs to open the console and do some changes. I'm asking this because I read the Swap Disc Wikipedia page and it's said for it to work in the PS2 one neda to modify it.

What do you mean? I never used that. I'm able to play PS2 games using webMAN MOD, multiMAN, sMAN, ManaGunZ and IRISMAN.

Yes but your main question refers to the ps3 and not to the ps2. . . . . For example, if you want to exchange the swap magic with a burned game you just have to make slight modifications to the dvd drive to exchange the disc (this is nowadays completely obsolete. . . . because the playback of backups via hdd etc. is a lot more comfortable)
But if you just want to start opl or for example install fmcb on a mc you just need the swapmagic and a usb stick (for fmcb there are also other methods . . .but here it’s just about the principle).

if you use webmanmod etc. your iso is mounted by ps2 placeholder. . . . . . . . . .

But in general you make it too hard for yourself. . . . . . if you want to play ps2 games without big compromises, a PS2 console is still the best option

 

[Windows_10_User]

Yes but your main question refers to the ps3 and not to the ps2. . . . . For example, if you want to exchange the swap magic with a burned game you just have to make slight modifications to the dvd drive to exchange the disc (this is nowadays completely obsolete. . . . because the playback of backups via hdd etc. is a lot more comfortable)
But if you just want to start opl or for example install fmcb on a mc you just need the swapmagic and a usb stick (for fmcb there are also other methods . . .but here it’s just about the principle).

if you use webmanmod etc. your iso is mounted by ps2 placeholder. . . . . . . . . .

But in general you make it too hard for yourself. . . . . . if you want to play ps2 games without big compromises, a PS2 console is still the best option

It seems backup managers (like webMAN MOD, multiMAN, IRISMAN, ManaGunZ, etc.) can mount OPL ISOs (I didn't even know the latter existed or could be manually created) so a SwapMagic disc or ISO (I didn't even know the latter existed, as well) isn't needed but it appears OPL's PS2 game compatibility on the PS3 is equal to or lower than this one for the PS2, not to mention OPL may not run well over USB or SMB, if running games via the former on it, it's a speed bottleneck (since the speed is still USB 1.1 instead of USB 2.0 because USB 1.1 is emulated) and will negatively affect heavy-loading games and FMVs and OPL only works in CECH-A through CECH-E PS3s.

Anyway, it's possible to run PS2 games outside the PS3's HDD/eMMC/SSD/SSHD if running OPL on the console and the PS3 doesn't need physical modifications to run it.

 

[Marc_LFD]

Because many have already reported that more than 1TB cause stability problems......

and as far as I know, only a maximum of 1.5TB is possible

That's why I inserted a 1.5TB HDD to one of my PS3s, another PS3 with 1TB, and the current one I use with 700GB.

While it's nice to have tons of space, it's better to just have the games I actually want to play than nearly everything.

 

[Windows_10_User]

That's why I inserted a 1.5TB HDD to one of my PS3s, another PS3 with 1TB, and the current one I use with 700GB.

While it's nice to have tons of space, it's better to just have the games I actually want to play than nearly everything.

Can 1.5 TB HDDs have problems on the PS3?

 

[Marc_LFD]

In that case can't you have problems on the PS3's which as a 1.5TB HDD?

Yes, no probs, as it doesn't go above the limit.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Yes, no probs, as it doesn't go above the limit.

But @xoINARIox said problems may arise if using larger than 1 TB HDDs. Anyway, I guess the risk was worth it and a 1.5 TB HDD should have been bought instead of a 1 TB one because I don't known if it will fit all the PS1, PS2 and PS3 games I want.

 

[godreborn]

I thought the logic would be the same.

I don't use webMAN MOD because it always freezes my PS3 but since I have Cobra and use IRISMAN do I use the PS2 Placeholder? I thought the PS2 Placeholder was a separate PKG like IRISMAN, multiMAN, webMAN MOD, etc., but after all it comes Cobra/webMAN MOD?

With cobra, you don't need placeholder. Just use iso.