The situation in Ukraine...

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Here are a couple Old Oliver Stone documentaries that Google/Youtube are making it very difficult to find at the moment, but Rumble was kind enough to let me host:

https://rumble.com/vx1kvl-ukraine-on-fire-2016-oliver-stone.html

https://rumble.com/vx3u4b-revealing-ukraine-2019-oliver-stone.html
I wonder if he's just as staunchly pro-Russia since the invasion began. Wouldn't surprise me of course, he's getting old and more and more set in his narrow viewpoints. So for contrast, here's a documentary about Putin's long history of corruption and how he seized power:

 
I wonder if he's just as staunchly pro-Russia since the invasion began. Wouldn't surprise me of course, he's getting old and more and more set in his narrow viewpoints. So for contrast, here's a documentary about Putin's long history of corruption and how he seized power:


Why don't you watch them, then you won't have to wonder any more. Duh. Are you afraid that your theory is right and that you might be persuaded to be pro-Russian your self, or...
...might you be way off base, have no clue as to what you are talking about, because you DIDN'T watch either of them, and to do so now would just be a blow to your paper thin ego?
 
Why don't you watch them, then you won't have to wonder any more.
For some reason I'm doubting that documentaries made in 2016 and 2019 are going to answer my questions about Stone's viewpoints in 2022. They're only relevant at this point if you're willing to believe that Ukraine had a hand in starting the conflict with Russia, and I'm not willing to believe that type of propaganda.
 
For the note, I am not pro-war at all in relation to all of this, but there is a back story and everyone and their grandma seems to be ignoring that point. On the topic of points I find it strange how everyone can only see a point A or point B in this scenario, but their imaginations are totally devoid of the myriad of other points that Google, Youtube, and the like are preventing us from having open conversations about.

Again I say, SCIENCE DOES NOT SILENCE!!!

That aside, I have noticed that a lot of people do not know how to learn, how to study, and how to apply scientific method when researching a subject in order that one may determine what is true, what is false, and while is most and least likely if we lack a smoking gun, but can clearly hear where the proverbial shot came from.
 
Lol, Tim Pool as a source. This would be headline news everywhere if it was actually true.
But it is clear to see, the entire collective of mega corporations are taking it out on the Russians, most heads of state (China aside) are taking it out on the Russians, but it's only Putin, his buddies, and the Russian military that are actually doing this. So why must the Russian people suffer because of the convictions and actions of some others?

Such an approach to live is too black, white, and narrow. It lacks insight, nuance, and depth, and is dangerous, leading only to mis-understanding and despotism.
 
So why must the Russian people suffer because of the convictions and actions of some others?
Because we have no other means of putting pressure on Putin. He's got hidden resources and dark money stashed all over the world. It's kind of inevitable that an amoral dictator who's allowed to declare war unilaterally is going to cause problems for his country eventually, so the preferable outcome would've been a revolution the moment he dropped the facade and declared that Russia was no longer a democracy. Second best time to give him the boot and/or put a bullet between his eyes would be right now.
 
Because we have no other means of putting pressure on Putin. He's got hidden resources and dark money stashed all over the world. It's kind of inevitable that an amoral dictator who's allowed to declare war unilaterally is going to cause problems for his country eventually, so the preferable outcome would've been a revolution the moment he dropped the facade and declared that Russia was no longer a democracy. Second best time to give him the boot and/or put a bullet between his eyes would be right now.


Well check out this angle! Guess who groomed Putin?!?!?!

From the horse's mouth...

 
The KGB. He used the techniques he learned there to stage a false flag attack which killed many of his own countrymen, which is what allowed him to seize power in the first place.

I know he was in the KGB, which in itself is very suspect, but what I am pointing out is that he is part of the World Economic Forum and their self proclaimed Davos Agenda, aka Great Reset. That is what all of this is about. One World Governance from the U.N., global police in the form of NATO, mote censorship, less rights, less privacy, less individuality, less free will, more taxes, higher prices, more depression, mass suicide, and baby murder, you name it, you got it!
 
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Great Reset. That is what all of this is about. One World Governance from the U.N., global police in the form of NATO, mote censorship, less rights, less privacy, less individuality, less free will, more taxes, higher prices, more depression, mass suicide, and baby murder, you name it, you got it!
I mean...you just described capitalism, and every major economic power on the planet is already capitalist, so trying to get people to accept one global government seems like a whole lot of unnecessary effort.
 
I mean...you just described capitalism, and every major economic power on the planet is already capitalist, so trying to get people to accept one global government seems like a whole lot of unnecessary effort.
Your arguments are going to fall on deaf ears with XDel. Dude is as unhinged as they get and there's literally no convincing out of the fantasy world he created.
 
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I mean...you just described capitalism, and every major economic power on the planet is already capitalist, so trying to get people to accept one global government seems like a whole lot of unnecessary effort.
Totalitarianism isn't built into Capitalism though, besides, we are a Republic held together by a Constitutional Democracy, which in principle is supposed to protect us from the Greed that often comes along with the act of Capitalizing (we all have this temptation, we are human), and is also supposed to protect us from bare bones Democracy aka MOB RULE, not unlike we are moving towards today.

That said the current state of Capitalism has been allowed to usurp our Constitutional rights as citizens, just as dictators in Socialist or Communist countries in the past were able to usurp the will of the people in their own countries in their own time. In the end be it state or a collaboration of world wide corporations, you have totalitarianism in the end, it is the same outcome, which is why we really need to understand what it means to be American and how it is that that dream has been so severely raped.

 
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Totalitarianism isn't built into Capitalism though
You don't have to build totalitarianism or authoritarianism into any economic system, they inevitably emerge unless you build in safeguards against them.

In the end be it state or a collaboration of world wide corporations, you have totalitarianism in the end, it is the same outcome, which is why we really need to understand what it means to be American and how it is that that dream has been so severely raped.
Yep. The root causes go back even further, but Reagan kicked off class warfare proper, and the rich have been winning that war ever since.
 
You don't have to build totalitarianism or authoritarianism into any economic system, they inevitably emerge unless you build in safeguards against them.


Yep. The root causes go back even further, but Reagan kicked off class warfare proper, and the rich have been winning that war ever since.
Yes, the Constitution was supposed to be that safe guard, and that is why we have the bill or rights, because when the constitution was finally written, certain entities tried to revoke certain intended rights, and so we have the Bill of Rights which is a very shortened version of the original proposal.

Capitalism in the basic sense existed since the dawn of time, and without a charitable spirit, Capitalism can turn to greed and therefore corruption, hence the reason restraints have been put in it, but not followed, and likewise, restraints have been removed from it, not unlike some of Reagan's moves, and made more room for corruption, especially in regards to marketing to and dumbing down children.
 
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y'all just forgot y'all get oil and gas from russia, when all of the europe cut all trade from russia y'all can't move your vehicle lol, depend oil and gas from arabs ? lol y just feeding another monster
I would gladly be inconvenienced if it means pushing Putin's Russia back into the dark ages.

That is inevitable now because of Putin's poor decision making.

Capitalism in the basic sense existed since the dawn of time
The origins of Capitalism were 13th to 16th Century. You're millions of years out.
 
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Dude none of this is even substantial and
Hold on let me get you by the record.
Do you think holding military aid over a country who knows they are going to be invaded, for a favor?
Are you seriously telling me that's not substantial. That if zelinsky did not do the favor trump asked, that he and everyone in Ukraine right now wouldn't be struggling a quite a bit more?
Your telling me that it is not substantial, so I am giving you a chance right now to walk back on that statement.
 
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