Friend got this dead serious message on eBay. The game collecting is market is a catastrophe now. pic.twitter.com/GvKkBKBmAL
— Matt Paprocki (@Matt_Paprocki) September 2, 2021
Give real gamers their games and fun back you bullshit "collectors"!
What......
what are you actually trying to say?Erm... Are you for real?
Super Mario bros is available on roughly every platform Nintendo has released games for, and if you go by way of emulators, there's easy a dozen ways to play it.
So can we please stop pretending gamers can't get their hands on this game?
Okay, so an original copy seems for two million bucks. It's not something I'd consider, but if there's someone willing to pay such a price, who are we to say he 's wrong?
It'd be a different thing if this game was hard to come by or if there weren't a gazillion clones giving a similar experience, but there are. So no... Gamers have nothing to do with this.
That Twitter message @subcon959 puts out is a different thing. That's a direct attempt at market manipulation (or creating a financial bubble... I'm not too familiar with the terms here). That probably is a felony, though knowing that and proving that are two different things.
well its not gamers passion thats for sure...Greeeeed
This is a really interesting “no-win” strategy to really fuck with the seller. If the seller complied and ups the price, they contribute the greater problem of artificially inflating the market. If the seller lowers the price, chances are the person(s) trying to drive up the price will buy the game as quickly as possible, then drive up the price. If they take the game off the market, the price is driven up through scarcity. There’s literally no winning for the seller nor the larger resell market as a whole.
Exactly, and as much as I hate to admit it, the only solution is an all-digital world with no second hand market.This is a really interesting “no-win” strategy to really fuck with the seller. If the seller complied and ups the price, they contribute the greater problem of artificially inflating the market. If the seller lowers the price, chances are the person(s) trying to drive up the price will buy the game as quickly as possible, then drive up the price. If they take the game off the market, the price is driven up through scarcity. There’s literally no winning for the seller nor the larger resell market as a whole.
Which ends up with it’s own caveats because companies, like Nintendo, make buying a digital game a complete gamble. By not having a free upgrades/transfers of digital games to newer hardware, they basically make buying digital unappealing. There’s also the nonsense around possible removal of games from digital markets or even the entire market being shutdown. Sony and Microsoft both seem to have addressed that by actually allowing digital games to be transferred to new hardware. Still, it’s a gamble because we never know what might change because these companies really do just change on a dime.Exactly, and as much as I hate to admit it, the only solution is an all-digital world with no second hand market.
I can't agree that all-digital is the only solution.Exactly, and as much as I hate to admit it, the only solution is an all-digital world with no second hand market.
Don't get me wrong, I've been fairly outspoken about how much I hated the demise of physical PC games. Those big boxes with gorgeous artwork and thick manuals were half the fun of buying a game in the first place. I often find myself admiring them more than playing the games these days. I just don't see a way out of the current situation that doesn't involve a complete shift.. but then the greedy amongst us will probably find a way to ruin that too.I can't agree that all-digital is the only solution.
Selling new games 'unsealed' would stop a lot of speculative collecting, as 'unsealed' a 'new' game is unidentifiable from a 'used' one.
Most of us that consider ourselves gamers AND collectors have enough common sense to see when a market is being manipulated by greedy individuals with no connection to the hobby other than the multiplication of dollar signs, and there's enough of us sensible types around that can educate others. If you're primarily a gamer that collects (like myself) there's absolutely no reason to own a sealed game. I do have some sealed games, but they were all titles I bought new with the intention of playing them at some point. And when that time comes I will have no problem with unsealing it to put it into whatever console I'm going to play it on... regardless of how the 'value' of it plummets.
The economics of it isn't the issue, it's that we'd like to think games are something other than just a commodity.Oh man, if you guys think driving up the price of a game is bad, don't even look into what happens with the stock market.
Just...No.Exactly, and as much as I hate to admit it, the only solution is an all-digital world with no second hand market.
It means you - and only you - can set the price, should you want to sell it.i have super mario nes in near perfect condition, does that mean i'm a millionaire xD
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what are you actually trying to say?
Unfortunately, it's already happened and probably won't be stopped. I bet there are a large number of PC gamers that have never experienced the era before Steam. The second hand market for PC games still exists but it's quite niche now. The same thing could easily happen to consoles at some point.Just...No.