Covid-19 vaccine

[tabzer]

Provide evidence for this.

You made the original claim. It's not by default that we should assume that injecting foreign substances are safe.

Every reputable medical group also says everyone should get vaccinated if they can.

You can't account for every reputable medical group, so that's just a a lie.

 

[plasma]

Wrong.



That is effectively different from saying "you should get the vaccine". We both know this. Hahah.

The way you use "safe" is subjective, not conclusive. Due to the fact that recent changes in its side-effects list have happened, it is assertively inconclusive--and not safe due to the already established side effects.

If you dont want to get the vaccine then thats fine, but at this point I feel youre arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[tabzer]

If you dont want to get the vaccine then thats fine, but at this point I feel youre arguing for the sake of arguing.

Doctors can give medical advice. Lacius should not.

 

[plasma]

Doctors can give medical advice. Lacius should not.

They can do as they please, who are you to sit there and tell them what they can and can't do. I advocate for the vaccine all the time, because it is the right thing to do. End of the day, its peoples choices that will determine if they get it or not, not someone saying 'i would suggest you get the vaccine to protect yourself'.

 

[tabzer]

'i would suggest you get the vaccine to protect yourself'.

You and I both know that isn't what Lacius has said. I am in the position to point out the fault, but I am in no position to prevent him from doing so.

 

[Lacius]

Wtf, so many people that don't vaccine. o.O"

Damn. I bet we have flat earthers too.

There is a known overlap between flat-Earthers and anti-vaxxers. They are both anti-scientific, anti-skeptic, illogical, and conspiratorial. There's also a lot of overlap between these things and Q-anon.

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You made the original claim. It's not by default that we should assume that injecting foreign substances are safe.



You can't account for every reputable medical group, so that's just a a lie.

I've provided evidence that meets my burden of proof. You have not.

 

[Skelletonike]

There is a known overlap between flat-Earthers and anti-vaxxers. They are both anti-scientific, anti-skeptic, illogical, and conspiratorial. There's also a lot of overlap between these things and Q-anon.

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I've provided evidence that meets my burden of proof. You have not.

No idea what Q-anon is, first read about it earlier today.

Anyway, both flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers end up being just plain sad.

 

[plasma]

You and I both know that isn't what Lacius has said. I am in the position to point out the fault, but I am in no position to prevent him from doing so.

Then why are you so vexed over it? I don't see a fault with what Lacius has said, its okay to be skeptical with the evidence we have but people forget this is a very new mutation of the virus. We are learning as we move. I would rather trust the scientists who spend 99% of their time dedicated to saving millions of lives if I am to be honest.

 

[Lacius]

Doctors can give medical advice. Lacius should not.

It doesn't take a medical degree to acknowledge facts about the vaccine.

 

[tabzer]

I've provided evidence that meets my burden of proof. You have not.

Nope. I don't need to prove that the future exists. You need to provide evidence that the possible outcomes are concrete and unwavering. I already provided evidence that they are not.

It doesn't take a medical degree to acknowledge facts about the vaccine.

It requires a medical license to give recommendation about taking the vaccine. Trying to compel people to take the vaccine is likely worse--from a legal perspective.

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Then why are you so vexed over it? I don't see a fault with what Lacius has said, its okay to be skeptical with the evidence we have but people forget this is a very new mutation of the virus. We are learning as we move. I would rather trust the scientists who spend 99% of their time dedicated to saving millions of lives if I am to be honest.

You are free to trust anybody that you want. It is true that we are experimenting along the way. You are free to make choices. Lacius is free to fraudulently practice medicine. Each has their respective risks.

 

[Lacius]

Nope. I don't need to prove that the future exists. You need to provide evidence that the possible outcomes are concrete and unwavering. I already provided evidence that they are not.



It requires a medical license to give recommendation about taking the vaccine. Trying to compel people to take the vaccine is likely worse--from a legal perspective.

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You are free to trust anybody that you want. It is true that we are experimenting along the way. You are free to make choices. Lacius is free to fraudulently practice medicine. Each has their respective risks.

I provided evidence from the CDC that the vaccine is safe, effective, and recommended. If you are going to argue any of these things aren't true, you must provide evidence for it. Once again, you've failed to understand how the burden of proof works.

It does not require a medical license to acknowledge these facts about the vaccine. It's telling that you would rather talk about medical licenses vs. the actual facts about the vaccine.

 

[tabzer]

I provided evidence from the CDC that the vaccine is safe, effective, and recommended. If you are going to argue any of these things aren't true, you must provide evidence for it. Once again, you've failed to understand how the burden of proof works.

It does not require a medical license to acknowledge these facts about the vaccine. It's telling that you would rather talk about medical licenses vs. the actual facts about the vaccine.

You've made, yet another, absolute claim. Once again, you've failed to understand how the burden of proof works.

You are providing a medical opinion and prescribing it to everyone without their permission. Good luck with that.

 

[Lacius]

You've made, yet another, absolute claim. Once again, you've failed to understand how the burden of proof works.

You are providing a medical opinion and prescribing it to everyone without their permission. Good luck with that.

I haven't made any claims that haven't been backed up by the CDC and the rest of the medical community.

Please be sure to tag me if/when you decide to make a claim and support it with evidence.

 

[Valwinz]

please don't take medical advice from lacius

 

[Lacius]

please don't take medical advice from lacius

Please follow the recommendations of the CDC and the rest of the medical community and get vaccinated.

 

[emigre]

i see u have UK flag under avatar, then u must getting Astrazeneca! The UK vaccine is banned in Italy for people under 60yo when a 18yo girl died after receiving Astrazeneca, Glad u survived the improbable blood cloth from Astrazeneca!

In Blightly, under 40s have a choice from AZ. I got Pfizer in the end,

 

[Xen0]

Well I was about to get BioNTech when suddenly news came out that young males did get heart problems after that. I guess I´ll wait until it´s fully exermined and we really know what it does with the body. (no flat earthler here, I´m a lab assistant)

 

[Valwinz]

Well I was about to get BioNTech when suddenly news came out that young males did get heart problems after that. I guess I´ll wait until it´s fully exermined and we really know what it does with the body. (no flat earthler here, I´m a lab assistant)

il get it in 5 years

 

[Lacius]

il get it in 5 years

It is highly recommended that you get vaccinated as soon as possible if you are medically able to do so. If you have concerns about specific side-effects with specific vaccines, even though they're all relatively safe, get a different one.

 

[kevin corms]

I cant blame some people from being hesitant, government and big pharma have abused our trust so much in the past and even today. Even democrats were casting doubt on the vaccine when they though Trump might get credit. However, some other countries such as Japan wouldn't use it if there was something wrong with it, they even ban junk like Adderall over there.

If you want to convince someone to get it, please avoid tribal bs and CNN/Fox NEWs crap.

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Please follow the recommendations of the CDC and the rest of the medical community and get vaccinated.

I would also encourage people to go directly to the CDC website, don't take it from talking heads on cable "news", go straight to the real source.