Some Dr.Seuss books taken down

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I hate censorship, and how sensitive society has become over the last decade.
Something decades-old and beloved now offends you? Shout and yell and kick up a fuss about "ThIs pRoMoTeS rAcIsM!" or SeXiSm or similar, and because the 'offended' minority is the loudest, you'll get a response - positive for you, negative for every sane person.

Bloody hell. Just bring these books back; they're not harming anyone. Seuss wasn't trying to spread racism at all; he just lived in a time that allowed for such imagery, and he was known for being anti-racism (he even grew to hate the anti-Japanese propaganda he made during WW2, from what I've read).
 
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I'm so sick of this kind of stuff..... People need to grow up and stop this nonsense of being offended by every little thing from past generations way of life.. Sheesh!
I've grown used to it, and often try to guess the very next thing the outrage crowd will go after next.
 
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I wish they did a few things differently. They could have released the books with a memo explaining that the images were a product of their time and that they don’t endorse them. Or quietly stop publishing the books and literally don’t bring attention to the fact that they stopped publishing them. They could have also done both and brought the awareness they wanted and quietly stopped publishing the books.
I would agree with this. They have no obligation to continue publishing these books if they feel uncomfortable doing so, but actively censoring/trying to memory hole something that is part of history is not only a bad idea, it also sets a bad precedent for the future.
 

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You know, at the very least, when it comes to fundamentalist Christians, no one gave a rat's ass about their protests against degeneracy because a lot of it was ridiculous.

Thing is, I'd rather have them as opposed to the current SJW mob that rules Twitter and the like. These people are such fucking pussies that I imagine they'd faint at the sight of someone bleeding severely IRL. It used to be journalism was all about getting things straight from the site of the news story itself. Not a set, not some staged false flag with actors, but they tried to get to the bottom of things, regardless of politicians, criminals, and others who tried to bribe them to cover up the things that these SJWs are actually trying to shield.

1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, Harrison Bergeron, I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, The Gulag Archipelago, etc., are all warnings against governments who strip the people of their rights by force, and it seems like the leftists would rather use those books as guides. The fact that people on this forum (and don't try to hide it, you know who you are) would rather a government tell people how to live their life with the penalty for not doing so to be imprisonment, or worse, death by the hands of the government, goes to show how truly ill-informed people are about the history from doing rigorous independent study of world events.

March 5, 1770; the date of the Boston Massacre by the hands of the British Empire ruled by a King who wanted those who lived in the UK at the time to go to the church denomination that he mandated. Innocent people, who only wanted their interests to be represented, and the ability to have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and to not have to be forced to provide housing to British soldiers like the citizens of what was at the time the American colony like second-class citizens, and to be able to have the right to say whatever they want, believe whatever they want, assemble with whomever they choose, and for the press to be able to say whatever it wants, even if its a load of lies that people should sue and take them to court for, and the right to bear their own arms without the fear of the government using state power to take all of that away under the guise of peace and safety that is only promised for as long as it serves the interests of the elite in society. These people didn't want free handouts from the government using others' money; they wanted to be self sufficient, and independent of a despotic tyrant who's interests were more about himself than it was others.

Or how about every Communist country where Communism in some form was tried, a lot of people died due to starvation because of government overreach making the pursuit of happiness a less favorable alternative to wallowing in decadence because of the elites' selfishness? Why do you think Fauci is so vilified by mainly conservatives? Because they see a man who's using a crisis in coordination with others who would rather advance their own interests than those of the people they serve. And what do you know? His daughter is a software engineer for Twitter!

Don't believe me?

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/anthony-fauci-daughters-children-family/

Isn't that convenient? Corporations being nationalized by the government to advance government policies and interests through subtle and not-so-subtle means.


That is true oppression; the power of the state being used authoritatively to trample down on those who it disagrees with.

I mean, what's next? Is King of Fighters XV gonna get cancelled, or Mai Shiranui's appearance covered up because it offends a bunch of fake Christians who don't understand anything about the Constitution as it was written and not as a living document? Because I feel like this Puritanism towards anything extreme nowadays is affecting everything.

You can't offend anyone's senses, so tone down the blood and gore in the Resident Evil games for all regions. The finishers the monsters do on the player characters in the RE2 Remake are ruined because a lot of the time, they cut away because of laws in Japan that shouldn't have anything to do with those of us in the US who enjoy edgier stuff. Or how about Mortal Kombat 11 going woke with Jax's arcade ladder ending, and the very obvious jabs at Trump by making Shao Kahn say, "let's Make Outworld Great Again," like its edgy to hate on the Republican candidate in industries that clearly are skewed more to the left.

Then, we now have Japan and games that get localized over here taking the freakin' sissy pill with Catherine: Full Body. Now, I have to admit, I haven't played Catherine...anything yet, so IDK the full context, but from what I understand, one of the characters is a female who transitions to a male, and in the original game, she wasn't romanceable. Now, in the remaster, they added her in as a path you can take, and my understanding is that the route's ideal ending is that this character (Rin is her name, I believe) is apparently talked out of transitioning to becoming male, and is told that she's fine the way she is or something. What I heard is that REEEEEEESetERA threw a temper tantrum, and whoever works the HR at these companies apparently assumes that whatever stink is being raised on forums like that one, GameFAQs (which is so heavily compromised you can't even swear without it being censored automatically when you post on the message boards), NeoGAF, Twitter, Reddit, and others is what the majority of society thinks, when the fact is, people like Censored Gaming on YT will point out differences made here and there. I doubt most of the people who were looking forward to Catherine Full Body who would actually even buy it in the first place would have cared one way or the other how the game got translated, but apparently, even the translators didn't want to do the job of translating the game as it was written, with whatever necessary localizations need to happen in these kinds of translations. You know what would happen if I said to my supervisor at my job tomorrow, "well, I know I should uphold standards of quality in doing my job, but because what's written on this label isn't to my liking, I refuse to do it." I'd be fired and out of work and the ability to find another job in no time flat!


Not even fan translations are safe from this woke BS. There was an individual working on a fan translation for Goemon 3 who's work was harassed to the point of him quitting from working on the scene entirely because he decided to use the word "t******" as it was written in the game's script. Mind you, this is a game from the 90's, but people would rather plug their ears and put on their blinders to context and take a moral high ground that not even the God of the actual King James Bible as it is written would care about!

Its like everyone thinks that, by being nice, polite, and not upholding standards, they get some sort of morality boost that will get them into Heaven, when the fact is, no religion in the world, when you look at the documents people base the belief systems of their particular distro of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. as they were written, and you critically examine, think about, and rigorously research what those documents put forth, you'd understand that this fake morality isn't getting anyone into Heaven, which, as far as I'm concerned, the whole concept of the afterlife was nothing more than an invention by the elite to lull people into trusting these systems by exploiting their fear of the unknown, by branding those who they don't like as being a part of the out group, and using that as justification for pathological acts that are also condemned by Christianity for sure when one interprets it accurately.

What I know for sure though is that with this new religion that is nothing but a humanistic (and by extension, atheist) set of excuses that constantly contradict each other that I see among Reddit, Twitter, GameFAQs, and even this site is making people not depend on others. People who, clearly, have enough time on their hands to be making posts all day that I couldn't afford to do about how socialism should be tried, or elements of it should be attempted, who have no idea what it is they're advocating for!

How would you like it if I sold you a nice looking hamburger, but when you went to eat it, it made you sick and sent you to the ER? You'd have grounds to sue me in a fair and just legal system, which the US doesn't have for as long as the Totalitarian-wannabes keep putting family members and others in favorable positions locally, statewide, and federally. If the government was doing that, and you had no rights, you would probably be left for dead, because human life in these systems is valued less over politicians' and bureaucrats' wallets and families, who get preferential treatment over those on medical waitlists in the country thanks to bribes and other forms of corruption.


But then again, I guess stuff like this isn't as bright, happy, or cheery as Nintendo releasing more DLC for Pokemon Sword and Shield, or as I like to call it and a lot of Nintendo's other games: "Pokemon for Switch, with two sets of spawning Pokemon that could be in one game, but are split apart because it ultimately nets us more cash!"





(I'm posting this even though I'm probably gonna regret it. Hell, for all I know, no one may read it. Or if they do, they're gonna intentionally misinterpret/misread it.)
 

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Everything's racist now. The "how old do you have to be to be japanese" is pretty lighthearted. It clearly isn't trying to be offensive.

It seems like a case of white people getting offended on behalf of not white people. Reminds me of one of my Asian friends. Since we were little, he would always make stereotypical asian jokes for fun, and he made it clear that I could join in because stereotypes are funny. I make stereotypical jokes about white people because it's funny. Sometimes people will tell me "aren't you white??" After I make a stereotypical joke. Obviously I'm white. Obviously what I'm saying is a joke. Obviously I'm not out to slander your great great grandcousin thrice removed. Get off of Twitter and take a chill pill. Honestly, I'd suggest removing yourself from as much social media as possible. Did wonders for my mental state.

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You know, at the very least, when it comes to fundamentalist Christians, no one gave a rat's ass about their protests against degeneracy because a lot of it was ridiculous.

Thing is, I'd rather have them as opposed to the current SJW mob that rules Twitter and the like. These people are such fucking pussies that I imagine they'd faint at the sight of someone bleeding severely IRL. It used to be journalism was all about getting things straight from the site of the news story itself. Not a set, not some staged false flag with actors, but they tried to get to the bottom of things, regardless of politicians, criminals, and others who tried to bribe them to cover up the things that these SJWs are actually trying to shield.

1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, Harrison Bergeron, I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, The Gulag Archipelago, etc., are all warnings against governments who strip the people of their rights by force, and it seems like the leftists would rather use those books as guides. The fact that people on this forum (and don't try to hide it, you know who you are) would rather a government tell people how to live their life with the penalty for not doing so to be imprisonment, or worse, death by the hands of the government, goes to show how truly ill-informed people are about the history from doing rigorous independent study of world events.

March 5, 1770; the date of the Boston Massacre by the hands of the British Empire ruled by a King who wanted those who lived in the UK at the time to go to the church denomination that he mandated. Innocent people, who only wanted their interests to be represented, and the ability to have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and to not have to be forced to provide housing to British soldiers like the citizens of what was at the time the American colony like second-class citizens, and to be able to have the right to say whatever they want, believe whatever they want, assemble with whomever they choose, and for the press to be able to say whatever it wants, even if its a load of lies that people should sue and take them to court for, and the right to bear their own arms without the fear of the government using state power to take all of that away under the guise of peace and safety that is only promised for as long as it serves the interests of the elite in society. These people didn't want free handouts from the government using others' money; they wanted to be self sufficient, and independent of a despotic tyrant who's interests were more about himself than it was others.

Or how about every Communist country where Communism in some form was tried, a lot of people died due to starvation because of government overreach making the pursuit of happiness a less favorable alternative to wallowing in decadence because of the elites' selfishness? Why do you think Fauci is so vilified by mainly conservatives? Because they see a man who's using a crisis in coordination with others who would rather advance their own interests than those of the people they serve. And what do you know? His daughter is a software engineer for Twitter!

Don't believe me?

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/anthony-fauci-daughters-children-family/

Isn't that convenient? Corporations being nationalized by the government to advance government policies and interests through subtle and not-so-subtle means.


That is true oppression; the power of the state being used authoritatively to trample down on those who it disagrees with.

I mean, what's next? Is King of Fighters XV gonna get cancelled, or Mai Shiranui's appearance covered up because it offends a bunch of fake Christians who don't understand anything about the Constitution as it was written and not as a living document? Because I feel like this Puritanism towards anything extreme nowadays is affecting everything.

You can't offend anyone's senses, so tone down the blood and gore in the Resident Evil games for all regions. The finishers the monsters do on the player characters in the RE2 Remake are ruined because a lot of the time, they cut away because of laws in Japan that shouldn't have anything to do with those of us in the US who enjoy edgier stuff. Or how about Mortal Kombat 11 going woke with Jax's arcade ladder ending, and the very obvious jabs at Trump by making Shao Kahn say, "let's Make Outworld Great Again," like its edgy to hate on the Republican candidate in industries that clearly are skewed more to the left.

Then, we now have Japan and games that get localized over here taking the freakin' sissy pill with Catherine: Full Body. Now, I have to admit, I haven't played Catherine...anything yet, so IDK the full context, but from what I understand, one of the characters is a female who transitions to a male, and in the original game, she wasn't romanceable. Now, in the remaster, they added her in as a path you can take, and my understanding is that the route's ideal ending is that this character (Rin is her name, I believe) is apparently talked out of transitioning to becoming male, and is told that she's fine the way she is or something. What I heard is that REEEEEEESetERA threw a temper tantrum, and whoever works the HR at these companies apparently assumes that whatever stink is being raised on forums like that one, GameFAQs (which is so heavily compromised you can't even swear without it being censored automatically when you post on the message boards), NeoGAF, Twitter, Reddit, and others is what the majority of society thinks, when the fact is, people like Censored Gaming on YT will point out differences made here and there. I doubt most of the people who were looking forward to Catherine Full Body who would actually even buy it in the first place would have cared one way or the other how the game got translated, but apparently, even the translators didn't want to do the job of translating the game as it was written, with whatever necessary localizations need to happen in these kinds of translations. You know what would happen if I said to my supervisor at my job tomorrow, "well, I know I should uphold standards of quality in doing my job, but because what's written on this label isn't to my liking, I refuse to do it." I'd be fired and out of work and the ability to find another job in no time flat!


Not even fan translations are safe from this woke BS. There was an individual working on a fan translation for Goemon 3 who's work was harassed to the point of him quitting from working on the scene entirely because he decided to use the word "******" as it was written in the game's script. Mind you, this is a game from the 90's, but people would rather plug their ears and put on their blinders to context and take a moral high ground that not even the God of the actual King James Bible as it is written would care about!

Its like everyone thinks that, by being nice, polite, and not upholding standards, they get some sort of morality boost that will get them into Heaven, when the fact is, no religion in the world, when you look at the documents people base the belief systems of their particular distro of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. as they were written, and you critically examine, think about, and rigorously research what those documents put forth, you'd understand that this fake morality isn't getting anyone into Heaven, which, as far as I'm concerned, the whole concept of the afterlife was nothing more than an invention by the elite to lull people into trusting these systems by exploiting their fear of the unknown, by branding those who they don't like as being a part of the out group, and using that as justification for pathological acts that are also condemned by Christianity for sure when one interprets it accurately.

What I know for sure though is that with this new religion that is nothing but a humanistic (and by extension, atheist) set of excuses that constantly contradict each other that I see among Reddit, Twitter, GameFAQs, and even this site is making people not depend on others. People who, clearly, have enough time on their hands to be making posts all day that I couldn't afford to do about how socialism should be tried, or elements of it should be attempted, who have no idea what it is they're advocating for!

How would you like it if I sold you a nice looking hamburger, but when you went to eat it, it made you sick and sent you to the ER? You'd have grounds to sue me in a fair and just legal system, which the US doesn't have for as long as the Totalitarian-wannabes keep putting family members and others in favorable positions locally, statewide, and federally. If the government was doing that, and you had no rights, you would probably be left for dead, because human life in these systems is valued less over politicians' and bureaucrats' wallets and families, who get preferential treatment over those on medical waitlists in the country thanks to bribes and other forms of corruption.


But then again, I guess stuff like this isn't as bright, happy, or cheery as Nintendo releasing more DLC for Pokemon Sword and Shield, or as I like to call it and a lot of Nintendo's other games: "Pokemon for Switch, with two sets of spawning Pokemon that could be in one game, but are split apart because it ultimately nets us more cash!"





(I'm posting this even though I'm probably gonna regret it. Hell, for all I know, no one may read it. Or if they do, they're gonna intentionally misinterpret/misread it.)

I really like what you said about people trying to accrue fake morality points to get into heaven. At first I wasn't following the religion thread but now I see where you're coming from. It doesn't make sense that people are trying to get offended on behalf of others like it makes them "holier" people. This belief isn't even if exclusive to religious people. In fact, I usually observe this kind of behaviour in atheist circles which is baffling because I'd expect it to be the other way around.
 

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I don't particularly care since you can read these books pretty easily online and it was the publisher's decision anyway. I can understand why they wouldn't feel great about it.

I honestly don't think people really cared about these books anyways until false outrage was generated by conservative media pundits about their publisher deciding to pull them. Looking at Google Trends basically confirms this.
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Publishers pull books all the time, there are so many more important things to worry about than this.
You misspelled "Seuss", by the way, so that graph likely isn't as accurate as it could be...
 
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I remembered some of them. Sad, indeed. I hate the future. Missed the 1990's and before that. Less sensitive. But......Now and the future are too much sensitive those days. Crazy.
 
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Never read dr seuss since it isn't really popular / known here, but from what I see every character is exaggerated and it is more like a style. Too bad those snowflakes don't go after those comics where every white dude has glasses, a big nose and is just terribly drawn.
 
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Never read dr seuss since it isn't really popular / known here, but from what I see every character is exaggerated and it is more like a style. Too bad those snowflakes don't go after those comics where every white dude has glasses, a big nose and is just terribly drawn.

i require the sauce for white racism comics
 

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