Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Lacius]

All of which were highly improbable and very likely attempts at squeezing some dolla dolla out of him, but that's a fair point.

"When a Democrat is accused, it's probably real. When a Republican is accused, it's probably not real."

 

[Foxi4]

There is no evidence he beat his wife, and we have evidence the wife lied about the foot.

Joe Biden referred to the dark winter that was COVID-19, not anything related to race. This is why I stopped responding to your messages long ago. You arguments are blatantly dishonest and often irrelevant.

I gave you the benefit for the doubt and said your words were, at best, tone deaf. I never hid my accusations. You need to grow up.

You, on the other hand, need to lighten up a bit. If I can face the Republic plunging into darkness, so can you. Dark thoughts can always be disspeled with some light-hearted humour. There's no point in seeing everything as black and white.

"When a Democrat is accused, it's probably real. When a Republican is accused, it's probably not real."

If you guys could play this game with Warnock and Biden then I can play it with Trump, what's the issue? There was zero evidence in the Kavanaugh case too, and the Democrats pulled him across town like Hector pretending that he was a serial rapist. You don't have a moral highground here.

 

[Lacius]

You, on the other hand, need to lighten up a bit. If I can face the Republic plunging into darkness, so can you. Dark thoughts can always be disspeled with some light-hearted humour. There's no point in seeing everything as black and white.

If you guys could play this game with Warnock and Biden then I can play it with Trump, what's the issue?

Your response of "You need to lighten up" does not change the fact that your post was, at best, tone deaf. If you would actually put on your listening ears, you might learn something for once. Here's another: Refusal to even consider your words might have been tone deaf is potentially an act of racism. You're telling the world you don't care how others feel about your words, regardless of your intended meaning.

There you go being dishonest again, because I never argued that Trump committed sexual assault. Respectfully, you can fuck off now.

 

[Plasmaster09]

If you guys could play this game with Warnock and Biden then I can play it with Trump, what's the issue? There was zero evidence in the Kavanaugh case too, and the Democrats pulled him across town like Hector pretending that he was a serial rapist. You don't have a moral high ground here.

Warnock and Biden haven't made horrifically sexist comments amounting to viewing most if not all women as sex objects on record. Trump has. (And though it's not necessarily related, he's also made some pretty skeevy comments about how he'd date his daughter if she wasn't his daughter, and it takes nearly all of my willpower to not joke about that being part of why he won Alabama.)

 

[Foxi4]

Your response of "You need to lighten up" does not change the fact that your post was, at best, tone deaf. If you would actually put on your listening ears, you might learn something for once. Here's another: Refusal to even consider your words might have been tone deaf is potentially an act of racism. You're telling the world you don't care how others feel about your words, regardless of your intended meaning.

There you go being dishonest again, because I never argued that Trump committed sexual assault. Respectfully, you can fuck off now.

That's because I don't. I don't care about how others "feel" about my words - my words have a meaning, how you feel about them is your business, not mine. I used a fixed phrase in reference to the Senate race because I believe the outcome will have negative consequences in the future and your first thought was that I *might've* said that because the candidate in question was black, but you've decided to "give me the benefit of the doubt". That is the most racist, race-fixated, tone deaf, overly sensitive and ridiculous thing you could've ever said in this instance. I don't need your benefit of the doubt because anyone over the age of 5 knows that I wasn't talking about Warnock being black and I don't need an excuse for using a phrase with a well-understood meaning just because someone might be more sensitive than a baby's bottom. This is why you actually "stopped responding to me" - because every time you did you got blown out, and exposed as morally and intellectually bankrupt. Your attempt at a racial gotcha is hillariously poor, when I first read it I almost blacked out.

 

[tabzer]

It's "weird" for people who see no evidence of voter fraud, to see past the evidence and divine directly into Trump's intentions, and true facts about "she's always right" when accusing a republican of some sexual indecency or domestic abuse right at the specific time they are about to take on a higher office.

A situation of abuse shouldn't be held from being reported on *until when the publicity of it is a potential all-time-high. IMO that's discrediting.

Your response of "You need to lighten up" does not change the fact that your post was, at best, tone deaf. If you would actually put on your listening ears, you might learn something for once. Here's another: Refusal to even consider your words might have been tone deaf is potentially an act of racism. You're telling the world you don't care how others feel about your words, regardless of your intended meaning.

There you go being dishonest again, because I never argued that Trump committed sexual assault. Respectfully, you can fuck off now.

Grow up and stop being petulant. He pretty much spelled out what he meant when he said "tone deaf", in response to your protest. Why further press the point?

 

[Lacius]

That's because I don't. I don't care about how others "feel" about my words - my words have a meaning, how you feel about them is your business, not mine. I used a fixed phrase in reference to the Senate race because I believe the outcome will have negative consequences in the future and your first thought was that I said that because the candidate in question was black. That is the most racist, race-fixated, tone deaf and ridiculous thing you could've ever said in this instance. I don't need your benefit of the doubt because anyone over the age of 5 knows that I wasn't talking about Warnock being black and I don't need an excuse for using a phrase with a well-understood meaning just because someone might be more sensitive than a baby's bottom. This is why you actually "stopped responding to me" - because every time you did you got blown out, and exposed as morally and intellectually bankrupt. Your attempt at a racial gotcha is hillariously poor, when I first read it I almost blacked out.

If you had actually read any of my posts, you would know that I didn't think your intention was to address Warnock's race. What an embarassing waste of a post by you.

Also, that's rich that you called me tone-deaf. Talk about an "I know you are, but what am I?" response. I've explained how your comment was tone deaf, but as you've admitted, you don't care if it was, so you're not exactly someone who can argue if it was or wasn't.

I stopped responding to you because you're intellectually dishonest. You tried saying your tone deaf remarks were fine because Biden, a guy I voted for, used the same words, but nothing he said had anything to do with Black people. You argued it was okay for you to hypocritically say Republicans were probably not guilty of abuse claims but Democrats were probably guilty of abuse claims because I did the same thing, but I never so much as suggested Trump was guilty of abuse claims (side note edit: defending your hypocrisy by point out someone else's doesn't actually defend your hypocrisy). These are only recent examples, and any objective reader can see these comments are, at best, dishonest, and at worst, desperate.

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It's "weird" for people who see no evidence of voter fraud, to see past the evidence and divine directly into Trump's intentions, and true facts about "she's always right" when accusing a republican of some sexual indecency or domestic abuse right at the specific time they are about to take on a higher office.

A situation of abuse shouldn't be held from being reported on *until when the publicity of it is a potential all-time-high. IMO that's discrediting.



Grow up and stop being petulant. He pretty much spelled out what he meant when he said "tone deaf", in response to your protest. Why further press the point?

He won't even admit his comment was tone deaf, when it was. Worse, he said he doesn't care if it was, and he doesn't care how others feel in response to his words. That goes beyond tone deaf. It sounds like someone taking pride in being inflammatory. It's what a troll would say.

 

[Foxi4]

If you had actually read any of my posts, you would know that I didn't think your intention was to address Warnock's race. What an embarassing waste of a post by you.

Also, that's rich that you called me tone-deaf. Talk about an "I know you are, but what am I?" response.

I stopped responding to you because you're intellectually dishonest. You tried saying your tone deaf remarks were fine because Biden, a guy I voted for, use the same words, but nothing he said had anything to do with Black people. You argued it was okay for you to hypocritically say Republicans were probably not guilty of abuse claims but Democrats were probably guilty of abuse claims because I did the same thing, but I never so much as suggested Trump was guilty of abuse claims. These are only recent examples, and any objective reader can see these comments are, at best, dishonest, and at worst, desperate.

So let me get this straight - I wasn't talking about black people... and Biden wasn't talking about black people... we were both talking about a difficult period ahead of us... and the statements are perfectly equivalent, as I stated earlier... Huh.

I wasn't talking specifically about you, I was taking about the Democratic party and its supporters, both of whom are perfectly happy to blow up allegations against Republicans while sweeping allegations against Democrats under the rug. Not once did I say that *you specifically*made any allegations against Trump, I said "You guys", the royal you, I don't see how that's dishonest in any way unless we choose to ignore news coverage from the last 4 years entirely. I also sarcastically suggested that if your side, aka "the left side of the aisle" can engage in selective memory then so can my side, aka "the right side". I don't think you picked up on the humour of it, which is fine.

I don't make statements that directly reference what *you* said X years in the past, you're not that important in my life. I hope that clears things up for you - I don't want to argue, I'd rather clear the dark skies before a storm brews. No offense, if you've taken any, but the fact that the thought crossed your mind at all makes me think that you might be a bit too invested in "the race thing". I'm not, which is precisely why your objection is so alien to me.

He won't even admit his comment was tone deaf, when it was. Worse, he said he doesn't care if it was, and he doesn't care how others feel in response to his words. That goes beyond tone deaf. It sounds like someone taking pride in being inflammatory. It's what a troll would say.

Thank you, that's really nice of you to say. That really starts my 2021 on the right foot.

 

[tabzer]

He won't even admit his comment was tone deaf, when it was. Worse, he said he doesn't care if it was, and he doesn't care how others feel in response to his words. That goes beyond tone deaf. It sounds like someone taking pride in being inflammatory. It's what a troll would say.

You called it "tone deaf", he said "this is what I mean", and then you said "it was still tone deaf". I don't agree. After he explained it, it stops being tone deaf. Personally, I didn't see racism being implied, based on what he said prior to the "tone deaf" statement of "dark days". If anything, the contrast suggests that he meant it in a anti-racist way.

 

[Lacius]

So let me get this straight - I wasn't talking about black people... and Biden wasn't talking about black people... we were both talking about a difficult period ahead of us... and the statements are perfectly equivalent, as I stated earlier... Huh.

I wasn't talking specifically about you, I was taking about the Democratic party and its supporters, both of whom are perfectly happy to blow up allegations against Republicans while sweeping allegations against Democrats under the rug. Not once did I say that *you specifically*made any allegations against Trump, I said "You guys", the royal you, I don't see how that's dishonest in any way unless we choose to ignore news coverage from the last 4 years entirely. I also ironically suggested that if your side, aka "the left side of the aisle" can engage in selective memory then so can my side, aka "the right side". I don't make statements that directly reference what *you* said X years in the past, you're not that important in my life. I hope that clears things up for you - I don't want to argue, I'd rather clear the dark skies before a storm brews. No offense, if you've taken any, but the fact that the thought crossed your mind at all makes me thing that you might be a bit too invested in "the race thing". I'm not, which is precisely why your objection is so alien to me.
Thank you, that's really nice of you to say. That really starts my 2021 on the right foot.

You were talking about Warnock, who is in fact Black. That's what made it tone deaf.

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You called it "tone deaf", he said "this is what I mean", and then you said "it was still tone deaf". I don't agree. After he explained it, it stops being tone deaf. Personally, I didn't see racism being implied, based on what he said prior to the "tone deaf" statement of "dark days". If anything, the contrast suggests that he meant it in a anti-racist way.

His explanation didn't make it not tone deaf.

 

[Foxi4]

You were talking about Warnock, who is in fact Black.

I was talking about the future of the country, and I absolutely understand what you meant - that's why I'm ridiculing it, as it is in deservement of ridicule.

 

[djpannda]

I was talking about the future of the country, and I absolutely understand what you meant - that's why I'm ridiculing it, as it is in deservement of ridicule.

the issue is use language like like "Dark" to refer a time when a black senator won,
(other people )
using Kamala or Stacy Abrams being a black woman as a scary tactic
claiming a black President is not a real American
calling BLM - savages

Speech like this is racist Code that Minorities in American deal with.

 

[Foxi4]

the issue is use language like like "Dark" to refer a time when a black senator won,
(other people )
using Kamala or Stacy Abrams being a black woman as a scary tactic
claiming a black President is not a real American
calling BLM - savages

Speech like this is racist Code that Minorities in American deal with.

Posts like this make me blackpilled.

 

[Lacius]

I was talking about the future of the country, and I absolutely understand what you meant - that's why I'm ridiculing it, as it is in deservement of ridicule.

You argued that the election of Georgia's first Black Senator is going to result in dark times ahead of us. I don't believe you were being racist; I never did believe that. It was, however, tone deaf. In an effort to teach you something, I said so. Instead of saying, "Hey, you're right. I see how that is tone deaf, but I was not being racist," you're instead acting like a child who is claiming that everyone else is at fault, not you. I'm a little embarrassed for you. If you want to delete your posts and mine, I wouldn't object.

 

[tabzer]

His explanation didn't make it not tone deaf.

Context should be considered in the evaluation. This on-going free participation conversation allows for all concerns to be addressed, and the clarity he gave should clear the air.

 

[Foxi4]

You argued that the election of Georgia's first Black Senator is going to result in dark times ahead of us. I don't believe you were being racist; I never did believe that. It was, however, tone deaf. In an effort to teach you something, I said so. Instead of saying, "Hey, you're right. I see how that is tone deaf, but I was not being racist," you're instead acting like a child who is claiming that everyone else is at fault, not you. I'm a little embarrassed for you. If you want to delete your posts and mine, I wouldn't object.

Let's correct that statement. In an effort to police language on behalf of a metaphorical black audience you told me that a perfectly applicable term was offensive for an arbitrary reason that requires mental gymnastics to even be relevant.

 

[djpannda]

You argued that the election of Georgia's first Black Senator is going to result in dark times ahead of us. I don't believe you were being racist; I never did believe that. It was, however, tone deaf. In an effort to teach you something, I said so. Instead of saying, "Hey, you're right. I see how that is tone deaf, but I was not being racist," you're instead acting like a child who is claiming that everyone else is at fault, not you. I'm a little embarrassed for you. If you want to delete your posts and mine, I wouldn't object.

... yea most my funniest post have already been taken down

 

[Foxi4]

You argued that the election of Georgia's first Black Senator is going to result in dark times ahead of us. I don't believe you were being racist; I never did believe that. It was, however, tone deaf. In an effort to teach you something, I said so. Instead of saying, "Hey, you're right. I see how that is tone deaf, but I was not being racist," you're instead acting like a child who is claiming that everyone else is at fault, not you. I'm a little embarrassed for you. If you want to delete your posts and mine, I wouldn't object.

Nice one, sound strategy to get your own overreaction wiped - you'll have to try harder though, I'm not the average bear. I think I'll keep it, the exchange makes you look sufficiently silly to be worthy of archiving, the local pearl supplier must've been happy to sell out of stock given all the clutching that's going on.

In any case, back to the Senate race, lest we forget that it's still in progress.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Nice one, sound strategy to get your own overreaction wiped - you'll have to try harder though, I'm not the average bear. I think I'll keep it, the exchange makes you look sufficiently silly to be worthy of archiving, the local pearl supplier must've been happy to sell out of stock given all the clutching that's going on.

In any case, back to the Senate race, lest we forget that it's still running.

So then, it appears that its perfectly fine for you to troll? I've been a mod on a few sites during my time and one thing I learned it to just do my job moderating and for the most part stay out of conversations, especially political and religious conversations. Maybe think about that. Your attitude as a mod is, imo, kinda shitty. You're supposed to set the example, not act like the rest of the people.

 

[djpannda]

Nice one, sound strategy to get your own overreaction wiped - you'll have to try harder though, I'm not the average bear. I think I'll keep it, the exchange makes you look sufficiently silly to be worthy of archiving, the local pearl supplier must've been happy to sell out of stock given all the clutching that's going on.

In any case, back to the Senate race, lest we forget that it's still running.

it looks tuff for Perdue.. about 95,000 votes left.. most of them are Mail in ballots and the GA SOS Brad stated they are expected 17,000 military and out of country.
..the Temp is 145.. its cooked and ready