Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[SonowRaevius]

@gregory-samba @UltraSUPRA @CORE @morvoran @wartutor

Everyone right of Stalin in this thread has witnessed you mod conservatives, while a progressive is doing the exact same thing on the same page.

We all just know to avoid this thread while your active and you aren't enough of a adult to debate without being at risk of being modded for things everyone else is doing in this.

And I don't just blindly bitch about modding, I ate a suspension from @VinsCool I lost my temper and had i was being a bigger dick than usual and had it coming. You however are sitting here using the mod button to troll.

You mean calling everyone a leftist, commie, retarded, liberal, basement-dwelling, dyed-hair SJW while grouping up everyone into some political party you don't like that doesn't agree with isn't your natural temperament?

Because you have been doing that since this topic started and have only gotten worse about it as the topic goes on.

 

[GhostLatte]

My focus is simply living life and not allowing stupid people to get me down. That includes going out every single day to some establishment, exercising, eating right, making sure I show up for my job. For me, not much has changed since the Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus started. I was following the story in late November 2020 and watched it unfold. I follow the mask mandates in places I go to and I wash my hands, but people aren't dropping like flies around me. This sickness, it infects more people than the flu and there's no vaccine, but even so it's still not that deadly.

Our original 2 week shut down to "flatten the curve" failed, our long term 10 month approach failed, wearing masks and social distancing also failed at containing the virus. I'm not going to hide in my house just because a virus that's not even that deadly is being spread around. If I was afraid of germs I'd be a shut in that never leaves my house. I just find living in fear to be pointless and detrimental to ones health.

I'm not going to let a bunch of scared or power hungry people get to me over some simple virus. You see, telling me what I have to think or what I can or cannot do doesn't go over well regardless of who is trying to manipulate and control me. Right now that would be liberals, their liberal social media and liberal main stream media. I'm not weak, you're not going to be able to manipulate me. If I give you the impression I'm being manipulated then I am giving that impression for a reason and that reason doesn't include actually being manipulated.

I choose freedom over fear.

The coronavirus also has the freedom to enter your body. I mean it's natural selection at this point.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

You mean calling everyone a leftist, commie, retarded, liberal, basement-dwelling, dyed-hair SJW while grouping up everyone into some political party you don't like that doesn't agree with isn't your natural temperament?

Because you have been doing that since this topic started and have only gotten worse about it as the topic goes on.

Alright, let's see here...racist, sexist, misogynist, fascist, Nazi, islamophobic, anti-semitic, bigoted...I could go on.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Since for whatever reason you can't figure out how to work a search engine here's some more results.

Like I said, I did look, and didn't find anything readily available. The burden of proof is on whoever is making the claims to back them up, which is you. This is gradeschool level shit, dude.

https://bgr.com/2020/11/17/coronavirus-origin-story-chinas-frozen-food-wuhan-theory/

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Only mentions that China was making that claim "at one point". In fact the article says their blame has now shifted to Europe instead, and even notes that that "wouldn’t be impossible, but it just sounds like a massive stretch of the imagination."

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...hip-with-us-allies-report/article33130675.ece

^
This article has no mention of this claim whatsoever. You're just picking random bullshit that you find in a search as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ust-internationally-over-coronavirus-handling

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"only 52% of respondents in China believe that coronavirus was first detected in the country and just over one in 10 (12%) of respondents in China said they did not know when asked in which country the virus was first detected. Just under a third of these respondents believe the virus was first detected in the US."

This is taken from a poll of the Chinese people (allegedly), not a smear campaign by the CCP. Again, not really relevant.

https://bitterwinter.org/coronavirus-a-chronology/

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Article only states the original claim back from March, and makes another claim from later March that officials were then saying it came from Italy instead. Not relevant.

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/a...ey-suggests-china-losing-pr-battle-over-virus

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Also references the poll mentioned in The Guardian's article. Also makes no claim that the CCP is currently running a smear campaign.

Dude I just read through 5 articles that you big-brain tried to link to prove your point and not a single one managed to do so. What an absolute hilarious fail. You don't even read the shit you're trying to peddle. What a fucking joke.

Now it's your turn to try to come up with reasons to discredit the sources like you originally did with my first link. I actually find it a waste of time to give your side any sources because all you do is bitch and moan about them because they happen to be on sites your side doesn't allow you to read.

I actually read the articles I share, and apparently you don't.

Maybe your search results are being customized based on your poltiical perfernece and there is polictal bias in the major search engines, but I found hundreds of links relating to what China has been doing. March was just a few months ago and China hasn't stopped claiming the USA started the virus.

Maybe, but the vast majority of my news comes from sources that are generally considered centrist/unbiased or right-leaning but still generally accepted as trustworthy. I make no effort to hide that from my search engines, so I don't really think that's the case.

March was 8 months ago. That's not just "a few", that's the beginning of the year, a month or so into the US response to the pandemic.

 

[jimbo13]

You mean calling everyone a leftist, commie, retarded, liberal, basement-dwelling, dyed-hair SJW while grouping up everyone into some political party you don't like that doesn't agree with isn't your natural temperament?

Because you have been doing that since this topic started and have only gotten worse about it as the topic goes on.

No that is my natural temperament, and if you want to pretend the contrast from the left isn't being slung out there as well that's your prerogative.

 

[Sicklyboy]

No that is my natural temperament, and if you want to pretend the contrast from the left is being slung out there as well that's prerogative.

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I found hundreds of links relating to what China has been doing

Actually I want to touch on this again now that I read all 5 of your sources that don't even back up your claims lol. I can find 31 million links relating to what China has been doing, that doesn't mean that a single one of those 31 million links have anything to do with a specific subject. You know, "Since for whatever reason you can't figure out how to work a search engine", that's a pro tip for you.

 

[VinsCool]

There is some really bad mentality right there in this thread.

"I am not scared, I am not affected, therefore I don't care about common sense and I am only concerned by my own comfort, regardless of the consequences."

This is what it really means.

And it is alarming how many people are so careless and egoist.
It gets really ugly when a majority just don't care about everyone else's health.

Imagine how difficult it is to follow some really simple instructions (that I admit are annoying as hell, but necessary) just because you don't like them.
Sure I also dislike safety measures, but I know they aren't for "me" only, but for anyone else by my side who may be vulnerable, and these people may include the ones I care about.

If a person just doesn't give a shit, they are free to be, but anyone else is also free to point out the problem, and this is where we are now after nearly a year later.

Sometimes it's just impossible to change stubborn people, but who am I to judge, I chose to be "scared" and "being under socialist rule" because I know cooperation is the most effective way to get things done.

At the end of the day, those who chose to ignore the problem will face the consequences one day or another, and I don't mean just getting yelled at for being selfish at the grocery store.


What I am trying to say is that a government taking action and people cooperating to efforts to keep the virus from spreading simply cannot happen if too many people pretend there is no problem.

It gets even more concerning when the people in power also all say it's a hoax, until they finally catch it themselves, and then finally take action, or pretend they are just to not lose their popularity.

Doesn't that sound incredibly familiar?

That being said, natural selection will hopefully take care of the problem, it's only unfortunate that innocents are being pulled onto someone else's actions.

I am hopeful a vaccine will finally eradicate the worst of the pandemic so the consequences of having free will won't cause more collateral damages.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Alright, let's see here...racist, sexist, misogynist, fascist, Nazi, islamophobic, anti-semitic, bigoted...I could go on.

Half of the people that he called the names above and group together didn't even type any of those words whatsoever. Then again you post lies here all the time so not really surprising that you would post more now.

No that is my natural temperament

So let me get this straight, you complain about people not "discussing things like adults", but yet when the argument/discussion isn't going your way it's perfectly fine for you throw out personal attacks, insults, and group them together right?

It astounds me how you honestly can't see why you, and all the others that have been using the same personal attacks and insults, are getting banned.

It's not because you're conservative, it's because you show zero respect to other forums members and, at times, it seems like you do it purposefully to get a rise out of others.

If you want people to actually discuss things like adults and intellectuals, then try actually acting like an adult and intellectual first instead of like a child throwing a tantrum on the playground because you got in trouble with teachers for not behaving.

 

[Xzi]

What was your side doing initially when Trump was fighting the virus?

Initially Trump wasn't fighting the virus. He banned travel from China after the virus was already inside the US, and then said, "eh good enough." By the time he got off his fat ass and actually did something significant, the US was already feeling the full effects of the pandemic more than any other country on Earth. It was one of the largest failures in leadership I've ever seen (since GWB anyway). I can't say for certain if it'll be THE largest failure of leadership I'll see in my lifetime however, because knowing the GOP, they'll put up Snooki from Jersey Shore for their next presidential nominee.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Everyone right of Stalin in this thread has witnessed you mod conservatives, while a progressive is doing the exact same thing on the same page.

See, now this made me chuckle, because at least as far as an online political quiz goes, I too am right of Stalin

From https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-5.25&soc=-4.77 if you're so inclined.

 

[jimbo13]

So let me get this straight, you complain about people not "discussing things like adults", but yet when the argument/discussion isn't going your way it's perfectly fine for you throw out personal attacks, insults, and group them together right?



If you want people to actually discuss things like adults and intellectuals, then try actually acting like an adult and intellectual first instead of like a child throwing a tantrum on the playground because you got in trouble with teachers for not behaving.

I am happy to do either, I enjoy @Darth Meteos well thought out debate for example, happy to watch their 15 minute socialist video and give them a fair response. Same goes for @notimp.

But if you go to Yo mamma dozens snap fest I will happily dish it out as well as take it without complaint. @djpannda posts here have been a essay of vitriolic hatred dumps for the last two weeks so you can spare me your partisan lecture that it doesn't go both ways.

 

[SonowRaevius]

I am happy to do either, I enjoy @Darth Meteos well thought out debate for example, happy to watch their 15 minute socialist video and give them a fair response. Same goes for @notimp.

But if you go to Yo mamma dozens snap fest I will happily dish it out as well as take it without complaint. @djpannda posts here have been a essay of vitriolic hatred dumps for the last two weeks so you can spare me your partisan lecture that it doesn't go both ways.

How was I being partisan whatsoever? In what way did I say that it was ok for him to be hateful/disrespectful and you not to be? Nevermind, considering that you keep throwing people that disagree with you in the "lefty" pool I don't even know why I ask at this point.

If you feel that he has been disrespectful/insulting to you then why not just report him for it and move on so he at least gets the same punishment you are receiving if you feel so strongly about?

I am going to say though, suddenly bringing up another user after you have been ousted for acting out after getting punished just because they did the same thing doesn't really help and makes it seem like you are more interested in diverting attention away from your misdoings than you are to just accepting the consequences of your action and that you just want to play the "I am victim because I am conservative" card, when, in fact, most people don't have an issue with you being a conservative at all, but how you are acting on the forum.

 

[djpannda]

I am happy to do either, I enjoy @Darth Meteos well thought out debate for example, happy to watch their 15 minute socialist video and give them a fair response. Same goes for @notimp.

But if you go to Yo mamma dozens snap fest I will happily dish it out as well as take it without complaint. @djpannda posts here have been a essay of vitriolic hatred dumps for the last two weeks so you can spare me your partisan lecture that it doesn't go both ways.

tears.... I love your tears.. FEED ME SEMOUR!!!

 

[LumInvader]

Almost everything Trump said at a Republican event in Pennsylvania about the election was a lie or a conspiracy theory
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...sburg-event-biggest-conspiracies-lies-2020-11

Giuliani is spearheading Trump's efforts to nullify the election results. Among other things, the president and his lawyer have suggested that large numbers of dead people voted in the election, that voting machines were tampered with, ballots were secretly dumped, and Democrats conspired with "big media" to rig the race in favor of President-elect Joe Biden.

None of these claims hold merit, and Trump's own Department of Homeland Security has debunked many of the conspiracies through its "Rumor Control" website. In fact, as Insider previously reported, the 2020 election was the safest and most secure election in US history because of the use of paper ballots and voting machines with verifiable paper trails.

Paul Ryan calls on Trump to concede race and end 'baseless conspiracy theory' lawsuits
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-trump-to-accept-results-the-election-is-over

...the mere fact that the president’s lawyers throw these sort of baseless conspiracy theories out at press conferences but offer no evidence of these in court tells you that there is not the kind of widespread voter fraud or systemic voter fraud that would be required to overturn the outcome of this election,” he said.

Oh, and speaking of 'wide-spread election fraud'...
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1331753114471436289

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[gregory-samba]

Like I said, I did look, and didn't find anything readily available. The burden of proof is on whoever is making the claims to back them up, which is you. This is gradeschool level shit, dude.


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Only mentions that China was making that claim "at one point". In fact the article says their blame has now shifted to Europe instead, and even notes that that "wouldn’t be impossible, but it just sounds like a massive stretch of the imagination."


^
This article has no mention of this claim whatsoever. You're just picking random bullshit that you find in a search as well.


^
"only 52% of respondents in China believe that coronavirus was first detected in the country and just over one in 10 (12%) of respondents in China said they did not know when asked in which country the virus was first detected. Just under a third of these respondents believe the virus was first detected in the US."

This is taken from a poll of the Chinese people (allegedly), not a smear campaign by the CCP. Again, not really relevant.


^
Article only states the original claim back from March, and makes another claim from later March that officials were then saying it came from Italy instead. Not relevant.


^
Also references the poll mentioned in The Guardian's article. Also makes no claim that the CCP is currently running a smear campaign.

Dude I just read through 5 articles that you big-brain tried to link to prove your point and not a single one managed to do so. What an absolute hilarious fail. You don't even read the shit you're trying to peddle. What a fucking joke.



I actually read the articles I share, and apparently you don't.



Maybe, but the vast majority of my news comes from sources that are generally considered centrist/unbiased or right-leaning but still generally accepted as trustworthy. I make no effort to hide that from my search engines, so I don't really think that's the case.

March was 8 months ago. That's not just "a few", that's the beginning of the year, a month or so into the US response to the pandemic.

Since March China has put blame on the USA for the virus, even blaming our military as the source.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11165...-donald-trump-chief-accused-beijing-cover-up/

All of the articles I linked to all mention China response to the virus, the fact it started in Wuhan China, the fact it was originally called the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus,, China's censorship and/or China's blame shifting. I can't help it that your reading abilities and logic forming are not that well. I read every link I provided you as I assumed before your read them you knocked every single one. I provided enough information with all of those links to provide evidence that China has been blaming the USA since March for the virus. You originally claimed China didn't blame us and then moved the goal post to "oh, they did, but not in the past couple of months" when I provided proof. I really don't give a shit if you don't like the proof, which is why I was hesitant to provide it. The burden of being an idiot is shared by the majority of your side that constantly whines about sources and then attacks 100% of the source material and won't accept it.

Your side is like a broken record ...

"Provide links or it's fake!!!!"

"We don't like your links so you're wrong!!!"

There's no logical approach to how you treat evidence provided to you. It's the same thing as attacking Trump for every single thing he does. It's just your side is full of shit. I provided links that proves China is blaming the USA for the virus and just because you don't like them doesn't change reality, which is they are blaming us.

 

[djpannda]

Since March China has put blame on the USA for the virus, even blaming our military as the source.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11165...-donald-trump-chief-accused-beijing-cover-up/

All of the articles I linked to all mention China response to the virus, the fact it started in Wuhan China, the fact it was originally called the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus,, China's censorship and/or China's blame shifting. I can't help it that your reading abilities and logic forming are not that well. I read every link I provided you as I assumed before your read them you knocked every single one. I provided enough information with all of those links to provide evidence that China has been blaming the USA since March for the virus. You originally claimed China didn't blame us and then moved the goal post to "oh, they did, but not in the past couple of months" when I provided proof. I really don't give a shit if you don't like the proof, which is why I was hesitant to provide it. The burden of being an idiot is shared by the majority of your side that constantly whines about sources and then attacks 100% of the source material and won't accept it.

Your side is like a broken record ...

"Provide links or it's fake!!!!"

"We don't like your links so you're wrong!!!"

There's no logical approach to how you treat evidence provided to you. It's the same thing as attacking Trump for every single thing he does. It's just your side is full of shit. I provided links that proves China is blaming the USA for the virus and just because you don't like them doesn't change reality, which is they are blaming us.

I didn’t read it ..,but your wrong

 

[gregory-samba]

Initially Trump wasn't fighting the virus. He banned travel from China after the virus was already inside the US, and then said, "eh good enough." By the time he got off his fat ass and actually did something significant, the US was already feeling the full effects of the pandemic more than any other country on Earth. It was one of the largest failures in leadership I've ever seen (since GWB anyway). I can't say for certain if it'll be THE largest failure of leadership I'll see in my lifetime however, because knowing the GOP, they'll put up Snooki from Jersey Shore for their next presidential nominee.

More of your Liberal lies.

Even if Trump did indeed act too late your side acted way too fucking late because you all refused to act on the virus, called Trump racist and xenophobe for acting and all your side cared about for two months while Trump was trying to respond to the virus was trying to impeach him. Your side for two months activity attacked Trump for acting and then when he gave the State's Governors what they wanted, which was the ability to handle their own States response you blamed him for not being a Dictator and trying to take over the entire Government. Yet, if he wouldn't have given each State the ability to respond, which is what they they wanted you would be bitching about that right now. Your side is highly predicable.

There's no way you get to rewrite what happened. You're also pretty messed up in the head to blame the side that responded because you don't like the response and then let the side that waited to respond and did nothing slide on by without criticism. Your side did jack shit. At least Trump was responding. Trump saved millions of lives with those travel orders. Trump also had no idea the virus was already spreading in the USA because the Chinese CCP lied to the entire world about it. You're a hypocrite and history will remember your parties actions or should I say inaction during the start of the pandemic.

As for Trump not acting, I beg to differ.

https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Spotlight/Coronavirus/
https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Spotlight/Coronavirus/DOD-Response-Timeline/

We all know you're going to attack Trump regardless if your attacks are logical or not. You default to take the opposite of whatever Trump says or does like clock work. That's not logical, that's hatred. Something you side claims they don't do.

 

[djpannda]

More of your Liberal lies.

Even if Trump did indeed act too late your side acted way too fucking late because you all refused to act on the virus, called Trump racist and xenophobe for acting and all your side cared about for two months while Trump was trying to respond to the virus was trying to impeach him. Your side for two months activity attacked Trump for acting and then when he gave the State's Governors what they wanted, which was the ability to handle their own States response you blamed him for not being a Dictator and trying to take over the entire Government. Yet, if he wouldn't have given each State the ability to respond, which is what they they wanted you would be bitching about that right now. Your side is highly predicable.

There's no way you get to rewrite what happened. You're also pretty messed up in the head to blame the side that responded because you don't like the response and then let the side that waited to respond and did nothing slide on by without criticism. Your side did jack shit. At least Trump was responding. Trump saved millions of lives with those travel orders. Trump also had no idea the virus was already spreading in the USA because the Chinese CCP lied to the entire world about it. You're a hypocrite and history will remember your parties actions or should I say inaction during the start of the pandemic.

As for Trump not acting, I beg to differ.

https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Spotlight/Coronavirus/

We all know you're going to attack Trump regardless if your attacks are logical or not. You default to take the opposite of whatever Trump says or does like clock work. That's not logical, that's hatred. Something you side claims they don't do.

All I heard was “weep, weep, cry, cry I didn’t win and no one believed my made up voter fraud “

 

[jimbo13]

How was I being partisan whatsoever? In what way did I say that it was ok for him to be hateful/disrespectful and you not to be? Nevermind, considering that you keep throwing people that disagree with you in the "lefty" pool I don't even know why I ask at this point.

If you feel that he has been disrespectful/insulting to you then why not just report him for it and move on so he at least gets the same punishment you are receiving if you feel so strongly about?

I am going to say though, suddenly bringing up another user after you have been ousted for acting out after getting punished just because they did the same thing doesn't really help and makes it seem like you are more interested in diverting attention away from your misdoings than you are to just accepting the consequences of your action and that you just want to play the "I am victim because I am conservative" card, when, in fact, most people don't have an issue with you being a conservative at all, but how you are acting on the forum.

I'm not griping about me being modded I am aware I am habitual line stepper. I was just supporting @gregory-samba because his complaint was valid and has been experienced by others. @Sicklyboy comes in on the thread, plays in the mud with the rest of us then runs and grabs his mod hat when his team gets scored on. If you don't believe it, or have a problem with that's fine. It's not on my todo list today to convince you.

I don't report people for content generally, I like my arguments given and received spirited with a lot of salt and I don't plan on starting. If I have a problem I know how to use a ignore button, I am not trying to win a debate by taddling.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I didn’t read it ..,but your wrong

Liberals in a nutshell.