Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Lacius]

Also, with this sleepy Joe president don't be surprised if he has to step down due to mental issues and suddenly you have a Black female president.

Is the emphasis on Vice President-elect Kamala Harris' race and gender intended to be racist and sexist?

 

[Deleted User]

Another suspension... wow
Oh and, more cases for Trump has failed in courts. Same reason as the rest of them. Lack of evidence.

 

[tabzer]

presumptive

Yes.

The election process has, in fact, concluded.

Now, you are correct the Electoral College hasn't met yet, but that's not the "election process" as it's colloquially used.

That's the contradiction. Formally, it has not concluded..

If you want to compare this to 2016, compare your response to the few people who were in denial about Hillary Clinton's loss, talked about recounts and faithless electors in the Electoral College, etc.

I'm not in denial. I'm reluctant in calling him president before he becomes president. There's an old saying about not counting your chicks before they hatch.

 

[Deleted User]

Yes.





That's the contradiction. Formally, it has not concluded..



I'm not in denial. I'm reluctant in calling him president before he becomes president. There's an old saying about not counting your chicks before they hatch.

dude. it's a solidly past 270. There is no turning it around. Most mail in votes do benefit Joe Biden for a few reasons.
1. Trump telling mail in ballots are fraudulent. It caused most republican to vote the day of the election
2. Most republicans don't worry about covid, while democrats do. Which means democrats are more likely to vote early or mail in ballot.
The only votes that are being counted for at this time, is those mail in votes.
For all purposes the election has ended. While yes, they are still counting. It's too far of a lead to cause a change.

 

[Lacius]

Yes.

Presumptive means it's effectively over. Also, see below on how my use of the word "presumptive" was me being nice.

That's the contradiction. Formally, it has not concluded..

The Electoral College has not met, but the electors are bound by the popular vote results of their states, and the elections in those states are over. See my post above. There is no contradiction. The election is effectively over. Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States.

I'm not in denial.

If you say anything other than "Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States" (assuming he doesn't die between now and January 20), you are in denial. Can you say that?

I'm reluctant in calling him president before he becomes president.

He's not the President of the United States until January 20, but the election is over, and he's the President-elect of the United States. I was being nice when I said he was the presumptive President-elect of the United States in an effort to save face for you, but that was apparently a mistake on my part since you are in denial. In reality, the meeting of the Electoral College is not a prerequisite for being the President-elect.

There's an old saying about not counting your chicks before they hatch.

The votes have been counted, and the election is over. The votes that have not been counted (and the votes that will be recounted) cannot mathematically change the results of the election.

 

[AmandaRose]

And suddenly you have a Black female president. I don't care what color of skin they have,

If you didn't care about colour you wouldn't have said a Black female president you would have just said a female president or New president but nice try in trying to cover up your racism.

 

[tabzer]

If you say anything other than "Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States" (assuming he doesn't die between now and January 20), you are in denial. Can you say that?

I have learned a lot from the past few years, and I do not know what's going to happen tomorrow. I'm okay with that, mostly.

I was being nice when I said he was the presumptive President-elect of the United States in an effort to save face for you,

You are still being presumptive. You didn't do anything for me. That's disingenuous.

 

[Lacius]

I have learned a lot from the past few years, and I do not know what's going to happen tomorrow. I'm okay with that, mostly.



You are still being presumptive. You didn't do anything for me. That's disingenuous.

We don't know for sure what tomorrow holds, but we know the past, and we know Joe Biden won the election. He's the President-elect of the United States.

If you cannot say "Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States," then you are in the same bed as those in 2016 who wouldn't say "Trump will be the next President of the United States" and talked about Jill Stein's recount and faithless electors. The sooner you realize this, the better.

 

[tabzer]

We don't know for sure what tomorrow holds, but we know the past, and we know Joe Biden won the election.

Yes, in the colloquial sense.

 

[Lacius]

Yes, in the colloquial sense.

It is mathematically impossible for anyone other than Joe Biden to win the election. It's over. He will be the next President of the United States, and it's not presumptuous to say so.

Do you agree with the people from 2016 who refused to concede that Clinton had lost and focused instead on recounts and faithless electors? If not, how do you explain the contradiction?

 

[djpannda]

Yes, in the colloquial sense.

YES you tell him, College Student from Japan, who stated in not knowing much of about US Politics but clear upload Conservative Western Ideas that are not really seen in Eastern philosophy. Including the fact Japanese Prime Minster already Congratulation Biden.
YES you are impartial world observer , and not a fellow Republican disguise !!

 

[tabzer]

It is mathematically impossible for anyone other than Joe Biden to win the election. It's over. He will be the next President of the United States, and it's not presumptuous to say so.

Do you agree with the people from 2016 who refused to concede that Clinton had lost and focused instead on recounts and faithless electors? If not, how do you explain the contradiction?

It is presumptuous. As far as the people from 2016 who refused to concede that Clinton had lost, many of them still exist today and insist Trump is not their president. I'm not agreeing with them or disagreeing with them. I am recognizing that the system has not been operating conventionally for a while now.

YES you tell him, College Student from Japan, who stated in not knowing much of about US Politics but clear upload Conservative Western Ideas that are not really seen in Eastern philosophy. Including the fact Japanese Prime Minster already Congratulation Biden.

I see you are trying to say something, but I'm not quite sure what it is. You lost me a while back when you said computer glitches were responsible for black voters. What you are saying now is even more confusing. I'm not very interested in working too hard to maintain a conversation with you. Can you make your message (ie point) easier to read?

 

[djpannda]

ok apology, Wondering how a person living in Japan has so much understanding of Western Conservative US politics

 

[Rj.MoG]

It is mathematically impossible for anyone other than Joe Biden to win the election. It's over. He will be the next President of the United States, and it's not presumptuous to say so.

Do you agree with the people from 2016 who refused to concede that Clinton had lost and focused instead on recounts and faithless electors? If not, how do you explain the contradiction?

No you're wrong. The man who wears adult diapers and sundowns is playing a game of 8d chess you just can't understand. Any minute he'll arrest hillary and obama in their birth certificate forgery ring. They've forged over 9000 birth certificates combined and stole the erection from trump

 

[Magnus87]

I have faith that Trump can still win. However, if he loses, he may appear for the next elections.

 

[Rj.MoG]

I have faith that Trump can still win. However, if he loses, he may appear for the next elections.

Translation, the sky man told me the man who has had multiple wives, alleged sexual abuse, paid a porn star and multiple financial crimes is a man i can trust

 

[djpannda]

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I see you are trying to say something, but I'm not quite sure what it is. You lost me a while back when you said computer glitches were responsible for black voters. What you are saying now is even more confusing. I'm not very interested in working too hard to maintain a conversation with you. Can you make your message (ie point) easier to read?

I mean,It does matter where you are from but as a Person from Japan, people that just joined the Convo might think you Live in America and have a horse in this race

 

[Magnus87]

Translation, the sky man told me the man who has had multiple wives, alleged sexual abuse, paid a porn star and multiple financial crimes is a man i can trust

So Biden is a little angel of God who came to save us all ...



At least Biden knows how to smell your hair.

 

[Lacius]

It is presumptuous.

It is not. Biden won 270+ electoral votes, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.

If you're going to argue Biden didn't actually win 270+ electoral votes, that's denial.

As far as the people from 2016 who refused to concede that Clinton had lost, many of them still exist today and insist Trump is not their president.

It's disingenuous to say that "Trump is not my President" is anything at all comparable to "Trump is not the President of the United States."

Trump is not my President, but I've never argued that he's not the President. Fortunately, he will no longer be President starting January 20, 2021.

I'm not agreeing with them or disagreeing with them. I am recognizing that the system has not been operating conventionally for a while now.

You either agree with them or you don't. Which is it? To be consistent, I assume you would have been right there with them in 2016 when they were denying that Trump had won. Am I mistaken?

 

[tabzer]

ok apology, Wondering how a person living in Japan has so much understanding of Western Conservative US politics

Do you think I have much understanding of Conservative US politics? I don't think that. I may be coming off conservative in relationship to this thread, but I'm pretty liberal and progressive in ways that don't match the context of what's being discussed. I'm only trying to be prudent and be considerate of all factors. People here seem to want to be polarized, but that's not progressive. I'm curious about what you see in my attitude that are out of alignment with Eastern philosophy, and how that Eastern philosophy somehow manifests in the newly installed Prime Minister congratulating Biden.