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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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Okay. First, it bothers me that you would lie about something so petty. Obviously we both know you edited your post to include "mathematically" into the question. And the way that you say "it doesn't say I did", seems to be an attempt to hide behind a defense that nobody even asked for.

You are capable of scrutinizing, so I believe you are capable of thinking of ways for Trump to win the election. Of course, I imagine that in most of those scenarios, math would have to be used. You can shut up, if that's what you want out of this.
I never lied, and I never said I didn't edit my post. I also said it doesn't matter, so again, put up or shut up. I'm sorry you're getting frustrated that I'm holding your feet to the fire, but it is what it is.
 

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Okay. First, it bothers me that you would lie about something so petty. Obviously we both know you edited your post to include "mathematically" into the question. And the way that you say "it doesn't say I did", seems to be an attempt to hide behind a defense that nobody even asked for.

You are capable of scrutinizing, so I believe you are capable of thinking of ways for Trump to win the election. Of course, I imagine that in most of those scenarios, math would have to be used. You can shut up, if that's what you want out of this.
Hey guys... I don't think this is @tabzer anymore.. I think the witness protection people put him on a cargo plane and in route to MOROCCO.... because if not..... I would hate to think he "would lie about something so petty" as of where he would reside to appear like people from other counties would agree with our view of Trump winning.
 

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You are lying to me right now.
If you are going to call me a liar, please put up or shut up. "Putting up or shutting up" is apparently a difficult concept for you to grasp. Also, when calling someone a liar, please have the courage to tag the person you're calling out.

It should be noted that this is all blatant deflection on your part, and I'm not going to ignore this fact.
 

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I don't accept your terms. I'm not telling you things you like to hear. That's okay with me.
You're saying Trump can still win, but you can't offer a way he could win. You're saying I lied, but you can't offer a way I lied. Facts aren't important to you, are they?

Put up or shut up, because you're embarrassing yourself.
 

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I don't accept your terms. I'm not telling you things you like to hear. That's okay with me.
Look agent Albert WESKER from witness protection.. you don't have to continue acting and pretending to be like @tabzer any more with saying crazy Conservative Conspiracy Theories with no Proof......

Thats why I am here....OBama is a Lizard person!!!
 

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You're saying Trump can still win, but you can't offer a way he could win. You're saying I lied, but you can't offer a way I lied. Facts aren't important to you, are they?

Put up or shut up, because you're embarrassing yourself.

I'm saying Trump could still win, but I am not offering a way he could win. I'm saying that you are lying to me, as you are still being persistent in doing so. It's not something that I need to prove when I know what I know, and you know what you know. I don't owe you more than what I put up. You aren't as entitled as you project.
 

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I'm saying Trump could still win
He can't. If you are going to say he can, put up or shut up.

I'm saying Trump could still win, but I am not offering a way he could win.
That's kind of the entire problem, dude.

I'm saying that you are lying to me
You're saying I lied to you, but you are not offering a way I lied. That also is kind of the entire problem.

It's not something that I need to prove when I know what I know, and you know what you know. I don't owe you more than what I put up. You aren't as entitled as you project.
You, tabzer, are a pedophile. It's not something that I need to prove when I know what I know, and you know what you know. I don't owe you more than what I put up. You aren't as entitled as you project.

Do you see the problem now? If you are going to make a bold claim, particularly when you are challenging the character of someone to their face, you need to put up or shut up.
 
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I'm saying Trump could still win, but I am not offering a way he could win. I'm saying that you are lying to me, as you are still being persistent in doing so. It's not something that I need to prove when I know what I know, and you know what you know. I don't owe you more than what I put up. You aren't as entitled as you project.

AGENT WESKER enough with this facade, you pretending to be @tabzer from Japan is wrong.. I'm saying that you are lying to me, as you are still being persistent in doing so. It's not something that I need to prove when I know what I know, and you know what you know. I don't owe you more than what I put up. You aren't as entitled as you project. AGENT WESKER
 

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He can't. If you are going to say he can, put up or shut up.

No.

That's kind of the entire problem, dude.

That sounds like a problem for you.

You're saying you are lying to me, but you are not offering a way I lied. That also is kind of the entire problem.

Contextually, you can garner the information you need to deduce why I would make such a "baseless" claim. I don't need timestamps and page history to engage the got-cha mentality that you want to practice.

Do you see the problem now?

The problem I have is that you are being insincere while pretending to be righteous. Calling me a pedophile doesn't change that for me.
 

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Then there's no reason to listen to you. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You just sound foolish.

That sounds like a problem for you.
You're making unsubstantiated claims that we shouldn't pay attention to. How is that a problem for me? I'm not the one who sounds foolishly in denial.

Contextually, you can garner the information you need to deduce why I would make such a "baseless" claim. I don't need timestamps and page history to engage the got-cha mentality that you want to practice.
  1. I didn't say that I didn't edit my post.
  2. The claim that I edited my post is an intended distraction from your own inability to argue the point you want to argue, particularly when I'm not arguing against my post being edited.
  3. The point of my post, with or without an edit, remains the same.
  4. If you're going to say I lied, it's up to you to, at the very least, point out the lie. Sorry, friend.

The problem I have is that you are being insincere while pretending to be righteous.
I could ask you to point out how I'm being insincere, but everyone knows how that's going to go (nowhere).

Calling me a pedophile doesn't change that for me.
I don't actually think you're a pedophile. Did you not understand my point?

I participate in these threads, not for the conservatives I respond to, but for the lurkers who might have agreed with the conservatives. I hope that the foolishness of tabzer on display here has helped some lurkers understand where a path without facts inevitably leads: looking foolish and depending on distractions and deflections. The good thing about the lurkers is, since they have no skin in the game, they're able to referee this objectively in their own heads.
 
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I don't actually think you're a pedophile. Did you not understand my point?

I participate in these threads, not for the conservatives I respond to, but for the lurkers who might have agreed with the conservatives. I hope that the foolishness of tabzer on display here has helped some lurkers understand where a path without facts inevitably leads: looking foolish and depending on distractions and deflections. The good thing about the lurkers is, since they have no skin in the game, they're able to referee this objectively in their own heads.
no there define. a pedo somewhere.. and until we investigate this completely to get the proof..until then we have to assume there is
we have to check everything otherwise what are they hiding... I am about sure about70% of the forum already believes it ...so we need to chk
 
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I don't actually think you're a pedophile. Did you not understand my point?
I'm starting to wonder if English isn't his first language, because this isn't the first time he's not understood facetiousness, or the first time he's misconstrued meaning by taking a statement as literal. Either that, or he really is just this uncharitable and disingenuous.
 

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I'm starting to wonder if English isn't his first language, because this isn't the first time he's not understood facetiousness, or the first time he's misconstrued meaning by taking a statement as literal. Either that, or he really is just this uncharitable and disingenuous.
As I stated earlier, I suspect English is not his first language. However, that's not an excuse for any of his behavior, and if it's not his first language, he probably shouldn't argue something he doesn't understand.

I don't feel bad for ripping him a new one.
 

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As I stated earlier, I suspect English is not his first language. However, that's not an excuse for any of his behavior, and if it's not his first language, he probably shouldn't argue something he doesn't understand.

I don't feel bad for ripping him a new one.
I'm not apologizing for his behavior, but if the Japanese flag is to be believed, sarcasm and the like don't really exist within their language or culture, so it tends to fall flat on them. This is why puns are one of their biggest forms of comedy. I'm just explaining the possible misunderstanding. But yeah, you're right that that doesn't excuse his refusal to take responsibility for the burden of proof, or being disingenuous toward the rest.
 

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I'm not apologizing for his behavior, but if the Japanese flag is to be believed, sarcasm and the like don't really exist within their language or culture, so it tends to fall flat on them. This is why puns are one of their biggest forms of comedy. I'm just explaining the possible misunderstanding. But yeah, you're right that that doesn't excuse his refusal to take responsibility for the burden of proof, or being disingenuous toward the rest.
It wasn't even that I was sarcastic, because I wasn't. It was totally lost on him that when I made an unsubstantiated accusation about him, that's the same as what he's doing.
 

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I'm not apologizing for his behavior, but if the Japanese flag is to be believed, sarcasm and the like don't really exist within their language or culture, so it tends to fall flat on them. This is why puns are one of their biggest forms of comedy. I'm just explaining the possible misunderstanding. But yeah, you're right that that doesn't excuse his refusal to take responsibility for the burden of proof, or being disingenuous toward the rest.
He did mention he was Japanese and that Most of Japan understood that the Biden was stealing the election.. he did seem like he was a native English speaker... of Course he can be Japanese and still be a Native speaker.. but noo . my theory of him being an American under witness protection seem the one that makes sense
 

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Then there's no reason to listen to you. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You just sound foolish.

A claim without evidence can be, and often is, accepted without evidence, too. I'm not handfeeding you because I don't want to misrepresent the idea that this forum is even capable of being a central repository of facts when the past 67 pages already establish the contrary. The notion that Trump can still win is no stakes expression of a possibility that is irrelevant and inconsequential to whether or not he does win.

You're making unsubstantiated claims that we shouldn't pay attention to. How is that a problem for me? I'm not the one who sounds foolishly in denial.

My claims are substantiated by many reasons that aren't formatted and submitted in any official way. The claim that you are lying to me simply needed to be reviewed a few posts prior to be substantiated.


  • I didn't say that I didn't edit my post.

The disclaimer, here "I didn't say that I didn't edit my post" is the kind of dishonesty I am talking about.

  • The claim that I edited my post is an intended distraction from your own inability to argue the point you want to argue, particularly when I'm not arguing against my post being edited.

No. It's a real concern that distracted me from having confidence in this conversation as I noticed changes in your text when I was submitting a response. Your responses make me suspicious that you would retro-actively edit posts to make yourself seem more intelligent and aware than you ever really were, perhaps even make me look like a fool in places where I wasn't really being a fool.

  • The point of my post, without or without an edit, remains the same

Contentious.

  • If you're going to say I lied, it's up to you to, at the very least, point out the lie. Sorry, friend.

I did. And as you continue the façade, I can point out more aspects of it.

I don't actually think you're a pedophile. Did you not understand my point?

I saw intimidation in what you suggest you are capable of doing in the case I do not satisfy you.

I participate in these threads, not for the conservatives I respond to, but for the lurkers who might have agreed with the conservatives.

So, you are admitting that you see me as a conservative, and that it was your intended goal to exploit whatever you can to shame others to toe the line. That's a classic puritan tactic. Japanese society uses guilt and shame as conformity tools too. It's something that I disagree with, as I see it a hindrance of self-expression, freedom of thought, and artistic expression--encouraging self-loathing to develop in its place. Maybe that's how you were raised. I don't think it's very honest.
 
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