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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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2000 Elections - Part 2 is likely to happen.
It's really not, though. In 2000, the contention was over a gap of just a few hundred votes, not a few thousand. Bush's brother had also established butterfly ballots in Florida, which led to many voters casting votes for the person they didn't actually want. The only state that will likely have a recount is Georgia, but again, the gap is so wide that it's highly unlikely to cause the state to flip back. The Trump administration is failing, quite miserably might I add, to provide a single iota of evidence of widespread fraud taking place, thus having all of their suits thrown out. Honestly, the courts should go ahead and label them a vexatious litigant. This is when a litigant continuously files bad faith lawsuits with no evidence as a means to harass or subdue their adversary. This label would effectively stop them from filing suits, and would open the way for counter-suits.

Also, here's a useful video from an actual lawyer:
 

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It's really not, though. In 2000, the contention was over a gap of just a few hundred votes, not a few thousand. Bush's brother had also established butterfly ballots in Florida, which led to many voters casting votes for the person they didn't actually want. The only state that will likely have a recount is Georgia, but again, the gap is so wide that it's highly unlikely to cause the state to flip back. The Trump administration is failing, quite miserably might I add, to provide a single iota of evidence of widespread fraud taking place, thus having all of their suits thrown out. Honestly, the courts should go ahead and label them a vexatious litigant. This is when a litigant continuously files bad faith lawsuits with no evidence as a means to harass or subdue their adversary. This label would effectively stop them from filing suits, and would open the way for counter-suits.

Also, here's a useful video from an actual lawyer:

I couldn't have put it better myself. This was not a close election.
 

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To say that same-sex marriage is unnatural is not to know about nature itself. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time and in all species.
 

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To say that same-sex marriage is unnatural is not to know about nature itself. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time and in all species.
Also it is beneficial in some animal groups. For example, in penguin communities, male/male mates will often "adopt" chicks that have been abandoned by their parents.
 
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Also it is beneficial in some animal groups. For example, in penguin communities, male/male mates will often "adopt" chicks that have been abandoned by their parents.
TIL. That's a nice palette cleanser for this thread.

Anyway, back to the clownery. Giuliani featured a convicted sex offender at the Four Seasons press conference. I just feel embarrassed for the Republicans at this point.
https://www.politico.com/states/new...ni-press-conference-is-a-sex-offender-1335241
Brooks was incarcerated in the 1990s on charges of sexual assault, lewdness and endangering the welfare of a minor for exposing himself to two girls ages 7 and 11, according to news accounts.

I love how they pretend that their party isn't teeming with pedophiles, and that "creepy Uncle Joe" is their favorite meme.
 
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The Trump administration is failing, quite miserably might I add, to provide a single iota of evidence of widespread fraud taking place, thus having all of their suits thrown out.

They are clearly just throwing crap lawsuits around hoping to appeal them up to the supreme court, which they've pre-rigged....

Rudy wants them to throw 120 thousand votes out that were counted when nobody was supposedly looking.
I'm not entirely sure that the "we were a long way away and it looked like the same pen" argument stacks up, but then I'm not invested in throwing the votes out.
 
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They are clearly just throwing crap lawsuits around hoping to appeal them up to the supreme court, which they've pre-rigged....
Their main argument is in defense of armed and violent protesters that tried to swarm voting locations that the police had to hold back. These are the "poll watchers" they're referring to. They had to board up and cover windows to keep these people out. The legal Republican watchers were in the building with the Democrat watchers. Nobody prevented them from watching, they just prevented the mobs from overtaking the buildings. So, to assert that nobody was watching at any one point is demonstrably untrue.
 

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The legal Republican watchers were in the building with the Democrat watchers.

Well supposedly one didn't make it in and the rest were kept away because the counters didn't want covid infected republicans breathing over them. I find rudy's explanation that they would have a democrat and republican arguing over which votes looked real kinda laughable. They wouldn't be finished counting by January for a start. Secondly it's unlikely they would remember the hand writing of every single ballot.

I reckon they are putting the emphasis on the mail in votes so that people don't look too closely at the in person votes that put Trump in front. Classic misdirection
 
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I'm kind of surprised how confident everyone is this time around, and people are using the same sources that royally failed the first time Trump was elected.
 

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I'm kind of surprised how confident everyone is this time around, and people are using the same sources that royally failed the first time Trump was elected.
What sources? If you mean the pre-election polls, those are a bit of a non-sequitur at this point. Those are what won 2016 for Trump, because people blindly followed aggregates and thought it was going to be in the bag for Hillary. Because of this, nobody bothered to go vote. People think differently this time because it's rather obvious that's not what happened for this election as demonstrated by the turnout. That isn't to say the aggregates weren't wrong in a lot of ways. They were massively off for Florida, and a bunch of states that went to Biden are considerably closer than what they were predicting.
 

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it's not about confidence; Joe Biden won the election. Confidence is what people had before November 7.

The election process isn't concluded, and the title of this thread is that Joe Biden becomes the 46th president of the United States. This sensation is pretty familiar.
 
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE WALL WE WERE PROMISED?

You know what a lot of people don't understand about that wall is, it isn't to keep mexicans out. It's to keep people from ass-fuck countries like El Salvador and other central america countries that harbor criminals that commit crimes such as feminicide out of the USA. It isn't an "anti-Mexican" wall at all.

Also, with this sleepy Joe president don't be surprised if he has to step down due to mental issues and suddenly you have a Black female president. Make of it what you will but I don't like the idea of people from Oakland, CA being in power. I don't care what color of skin they have, that place has the most idiotic people in the state of California living in it. I have spent a number of years working in that city. It is a dump.
 

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The election process isn't concluded, and the title of this thread is that Joe Biden becomes the 46th president of the United States. This sensation is pretty familiar.
Joe Biden is the presumptive President-elect of the United States.

The election process has, in fact, concluded. The only exceptions are a small number of votes that still need to be counted and some recounts, and it's impossible for either of these to change the results of the election. Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States come January 20.

Now, you are correct the Electoral College hasn't met yet, but that's not the "election process" as it's colloquially used. Come December 14, the Electoral College will certify that Joe Biden is the President-elect of the United States.

If you want to compare this to 2016, compare your response to the few people who were in denial about Hillary Clinton's loss, talked about recounts and faithless electors in the Electoral College, etc. (Fun fact: The Supreme Court ruled recently against faithless electors).
 

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The election process isn't concluded
It would be if Trump weren't a disingenuous narcissist that would concede.
You know what a lot of people don't understand about that wall is, it isn't to keep mexicans out. It's to keep people from ass-fuck countries like El Salvador and other central america countries that harbor criminals that commit crimes such as feminicide out of the USA. It isn't an "anti-Mexican" wall at all.
Except it would fail in keeping literally anyone out because the people who are illegally crossing the border don't do it by scaling a fucking wall. Also, the wind keeps blowing it over because it's made out of sheet metal, so good job.

suddenly you have a Black female president
The horror.
 
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