[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[Doran754]

CNN's poll was definitely less reliable than some of the others with a higher margin of error. However, that's not the only polling data that declared Biden the winner of the debate, which I delved into further detail in this post:

https://gbatemp.net/threads/who-won-the-first-presidential-debate.574711/page-10#post-9219009

If you can find any other polls from reputable pollsters, please be sure to share them to help underscore your counter-argument. The same goes for Biden supporters, as the data becomes more reliable the more we have available.

This poll from Latin channel 'Telemundo' suggests Trump easily won.

I'd like to congratulate the cesspit that is leftytemp not jumping with joy (as of yet) at the news. I'm sure the rabid ones will out themselves soon. As for polls, they're useless. Most are fake, people lie. People tend to say one thing, because they like to jump on the bandwagon and be sheep, then when they're alone in their polling booth they vote for what they really think.

That's the problem with massive liberal bubbles like this site, you tend to believe you're in the right because you see people agreeing with you unaware it's not a real representation of what people think. Of course people will agree with you when you're screaming in their face, threatening to set their building on fire etc etc. So yeah, polls are useless.

 

[KingVamp]

I'm guessing that the non-voters are either purple too, if they had to chose, or neither.

 

[gregory-samba]

This poll from Latin channel 'Telemundo' suggests Trump easily won.

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I'd like to congratulate the cesspit that is leftytemp not jumping with joy (as of yet) at the news. I'm sure the rabid ones will out themselves soon. As for polls, they're useless. Most are fake, people lie. People tend to say one thing, because they like to jump on the bandwagon and be sheep, then when they're alone in their polling booth they vote for what they really think.

That's the problem with massive liberal bubbles like this site, you tend to believe you're in the right because you see people agreeing with you unaware it's not a real representation of what people think. Of course people will agree with you when you're screaming in their face, threatening to set their building on fire etc etc. So yeah, polls are useless.

Your poll results also paints a picture that Latino's favor Trump over the Left, which is the case I've come to find in my local community. Latino's (including Mexicans) are hard working and value family and since the Left doesn't value those things I find that the people that came here legally and prospered favor Capitalism over Socialism. That's especially true for those who had to flee from their originating countries that adopted non-capitalistic systems of Government, especially socialism. The majority of Latinos that are in the country are legal citizens and I do find they mostly support Trump. They are insulted by the fake narrative that he's "racist" as the Left's own labeling and name calling only comes back to bite them in their own asses.

 

[Lacius]

The problem with all of this is the fact there's a lot of people that don't vote that either lean left, right or center. I wonder if you actually took into account the entire population as opposed to those who only voted how your maps would look.

That's why I brought up issue polls, not just elections and election polls.

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Welp, trump fits into 3 high risk categories for covid, obese, elderly, and low income.

This made me laugh because of how true it is. Thank you.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

I'd like to congratulate the cesspit that is leftytemp

You can always count on the left to endlessly spam you with fringe issues that you have no interest in discussing. With the amount of posts referencing things like transgenderism on this forum, you would think over half the US population is transgender instead of less than 1%.

I find sports boring to watch so I already half to ignore like 1/2 of the right wing when people there talk, then with these leftwing people it's even worse with fringe issues that only affect 1% of the population or less always as the topic of discussion. In order for leftists to understand how annoying they are I should just go into every thread on the forum and randomly talk about bass fishing for no reason.

 

[gregory-samba]

You can always count on the left to endlessly spam you with fringe issues that you have no interest in discussing. With the amount of posts referencing things like transgenderism on this forum, you would think over half the US population is transgender instead of less than 1%.

I find sports boring to watch so I already half to ignore like 1/2 of the right wing when people there talk, then with these leftwing people it's even worse with fringe issues that only affect 1% of the population or less always as the topic of discussion. In order for leftists to understand how annoying they are I should just go into every thread on the forum and randomly talk about bass fishing for no reason.

Hey now, minorities and their issues are important as long as you can use them to cause division and spread your lies. They are good to use as political pawns. Could care less about their causes or problems, wouldn't ever lend them a hand, but using them to push an agenda is the way to go!

(Pretending to be Liberal)

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

The lib population will likely be shrinking a lot soon since they're the only ones who will take the shot:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/m...d-vaccine-non-compliance-should-incur-penalty

*Will probably just be a slow kill eugenics vaccine like the SV40 cancer causing viruses in the Polio vaccine that millions of boomers took.

 

[FAST6191]

The problem with all of this is the fact there's a lot of people that don't vote that either lean left, right or center. I wonder if you actually took into account the entire population as opposed to those who only voted how your maps would look.

I am always curious about political demographics and what they might be, and categorisations thereof. The hidden tribes thing in particular being a fascinating one but the general socially conservative, fiscally conservative, breakdowns of interests within parties (pure maths dictates that a voting system like the US has will trend towards two parties as edge case politics become unprofitable so you align with those most close to you).

That said on the assertion that those that don't vote... the onus would presumably be on you to demonstrate either tactical voting, social conformist voting, non voting due to them being black pilled or whatever term we are using there. You might also want to consider what number of present republican voters might be fairweather friends if either the religious stuff somehow managed to reassert itself as a dominant force within the republicans, and/or if the US left stopped pandering to the weirdos decrying everything as racist (except when we are being racist, or would be had we not changed the definition).

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

or if the US left stopped pandering to the weirdos decrying everything as racist

That will happen as soon as enough people laugh in their face anytime they try to do it. All it really is is the standard spoiled child tantrum strategy - throwing a fit trying to make a scene pretending it will help get your way. Or the female bimbo strategy of getting pulled over by the cops for speeding and fake crying to try and get out of it.

Once the entirety of society laughs in these people's faces when they do this, their 10 year old child behavior will have no effect and probably stop. This is why calling people "racist" or "natzee" is basically a compliment now. It just means not childish or mentally unstable:

 

[gregory-samba]

The lib population will likely be shrinking a lot soon since they're the only ones who will take the shot:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/m...d-vaccine-non-compliance-should-incur-penalty

*Will probably just be a slow kill eugenics vaccine like the SV40 cancer causing viruses in the Polio vaccine that millions of boomers took.

I'm not scared of vaccines and will get a COVID-19 one as soon as they are proved to be safe, but I also support anyone that doesn't want to put something in their body they don't want to. As of the laws in the USA now if someone injects you with a drug without your permission, regardless of who they are, you can press assault charges. That entire law would have to become null and void for mandatory vaccinations. So if you don't want a shot you should be able to decline getting one.

 

[Deleted User]

I'm not scared of vaccines and will get a COVID-19 one as soon as they are proved to be safe, but I also support anyone that doesn't want to put something in their body they don't want to. As of the laws in the USA now if someone injects you with a drug without your permission, regardless of who they are, you can press assault charges. That entire law would have to become null and void for mandatory vaccinations. So if you don't want a shot you should be able to decline getting one.

You're post is correct but I wouldn't be surprised if Biden gets in there they may not be able to physically force you down to take the vaccine but they can back you into a wall by other tactics. They could say you're not allowed to leave your house without the vaccine (and that would take some scary tracking system) all jobs require the vaccine etc...

 

[Doran754]

I'm not scared of vaccines and will get a COVID-19 one as soon as they are proved to be safe, but I also support anyone that doesn't want to put something in their body they don't want to. As of the laws in the USA now if someone injects you with a drug without your permission, regardless of who they are, you can press assault charges. That entire law would have to become null and void for mandatory vaccinations. So if you don't want a shot you should be able to decline getting one.

I won't be getting a vaccine for a virus with a 0.06% death rate, however i will hope my mother, uncle nan etc do and anybody i know who's old.

 

[Lacius]

I won't be getting a vaccine for a virus with a 0.06% death rate, however i will hope my mother, uncle nan etc do and anybody i know who's old.

By getting a vaccine, you help protect those who are susceptible.

Vaccines are not 100% effective. Let's say, for example, the COVID vaccine is 70% effective in preventing transmission. If you don't get the vaccine but your mother does, that's a 30% chance she will get it if you come into contact with her and you have it. If you both get the vaccine, there's only a 9% chance of you giving it to her (30% you get it from someone and 30% you give it to her if you do).

Get the vaccine. It could save one or more lives. Also, the death rate is more like 1% overall.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Get the vaccine. It could save one or more lives.

And possibly end your own.

 

[Lacius]

And possibly end your own.

Vaccines are safe and rigorously tested.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Vaccines are safe and rigorously tested.

Unless they're rushed.

 

[Lacius]

Unless they're rushed.

Yeah, if a vaccine were released by, say, election day, that would probably be rushed. That's not what's going to happen.

So I am guessing you don't support Trump since he's wanting and claiming he's going to rush a vaccine?

It should also be pointed out here that there are three choices: social distance and/or shutdown the country, let COVID kill millions of people, or get the vast majority of people to get the vaccine.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Yeah, if a vaccine were released by, say, election day, that would probably be rushed. That's not what's going to happen.

So I am guessing you don't support Trump since he's wanting and claiming he's going to rush a vaccine?

I want the vaccine to be put ASAP, yes, but I'm not gonna take it until years down the line. I just don't want to wear a mask ever again.

It should also be pointed out here that there are three choices: social distance and/or shutdown the country, let COVID kill millions of people, or get the vast majority of people to get the vaccine.

You phrased option #2 to make the idea of freedom above all else sound bad.

 

[Lacius]

I want the vaccine to be put ASAP, yes, but I'm not gonna take it until years down the line. I just don't want to wear a mask ever again.

You phrased option #2 to make the idea of freedom above all else sound bad.

If you don't want to wear a mask, you should be fighting hard for a safe vaccine, and you should take it as soon as a well-tested vaccine is released to the public. Anything else, and your actions increase the amount of time you need to wear masks, etc.

If we don't social distance, etc., and we don't have a vaccine the vast majority of people have taken, then millions of people will likely die. I'm not trying to intentionally make anything, freedom or otherwise, sound bad.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

If you don't want to wear a mask, you should be fighting hard for a safe vaccine, and you should take it as soon as a well-tested vaccine is released to the public. Anything else, and your actions increase the amount of time you need to wear masks, etc.

If we don't social distance, etc., and we don't have a vaccine the vast majority of people have taken, then millions of people will likely die. I'm not trying to intentionally make anything, freedom or otherwise, sound bad.

I said freedom above all else. I don't want to wear a mask, take a rushed vaccine, or stay indoors. That should be my choice. I am not a doctor; your health is not my responsibility.