Hacking Question Can I get Banned If I...

[Ian095]

i'm not trying to pirate games. i bought all the games i wanted honestly, and yes i know there is a 100% possibility of getting banned. what I am saying is what precautions i can take in order to stall that ban or avoid it temporarily. I've seen people going on for almost a year without getting banned while still modding till this day so this is honestly based on the dumb stuffs people do with the switch. I just wanted to homebrew just to backup my saves if anything happens to my switch and curious of the other applications on the homebrew.

You do it once honestly you play yourself. I don't think Nintendo ever give second chances and you mentioned you did indeed pirate games when you were younger which considering the switch came out 2017 and it was just under a year (if I even remember) sigpatches came into existence it wasn't actually that long ago and they had been handing bans out since day 1 involving running unofficial copies of games. Only real way to find out is to go online and hold your breath while doing it. In my opinion the big reason people get caught out unexpectedly is they go online then revert back to a previous NAND that has less error logs which flags up on Nintendos server that its been modified in some way. You don't have any backups though right so that possibility is unlikely. They're more likely to somehow know you ran a game illegitimately.

 

[PatrickD85]

Well in short; we dont know what Nintendo actually can tell telemetry-wise.
Starting Homebrew requires to launch an application on the SD (in most cases) ... does that get logged anywhere at all. No idea.

While as noted it should be seen as low risk ... we just don't know what Nintendo sees, and more important on what they act.
Your mileage can really vary compared to others.

From personal experience and that does include getting banned and superbanned on one Switch; dont even dump your own games to make them easily available to yourself. Also the other obvious things; dont install nsp / xci, do save edits, change profile pics to things that aren't default etc etc.

In short there are no guarantees. Be smart, readup and you should be able to get a lot done.
If you want to do a lot more. Get two Switches ... one unpatched ... on which you do whatever you want. And a patched one ... on which you do everything by the book.

That really is the only real safe way I have found

 

[Alm]

You do it once honestly you play yourself. I don't think Nintendo ever give second chances and you mentioned you did indeed pirate games when you were younger which considering the switch came out 2017 and it was just under a year (if I even remember) sigpatches came into existence it wasn't actually that long ago and they had been handing bans out since day 1 involving running unofficial copies of games. Only real way to find out is to go online and hold your breath while doing it. In my opinion the big reason people get caught out unexpectedly is they go online then revert back to a previous NAND that has less error logs which flags up on Nintendos server that its been modified in some way. You don't have any backups though right so that possibility is unlikely. They're more likely to somehow know you ran a game illegitimately.

I was pirating 3ds games... not switch. Also, its not about second chances when I haven't done anything to my switch yet.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

There is btw also a discord from the atmosphere dev team (reswitched), where you should be able to get more accurate informations about topics like this.
If you join it, keep in mind that the atmosphere team has a very strict no piracy policy, so while the dumping of games is accepted, for example for datamining, everything related to loading backups, even self created ones, leads to a fast ban from the discord. They are also not really fans of sxos, because the sxos team did things like stealing atmosphere code while ignoring the license (not even any credit is given, while they are legally obligated to share the modified code, which they don't) and the inclusion of brick code as a kind of drm protection.

 

[paulzheng]

I mean yeah I COULD but, it isn't if I could or not. The problem is if i were to switch back and fourth, can I still get banned ?

you should make a clean emunand to prevent be banned.

 

[Ericthegreat]

Hello guys,

Its been awhile that I've used this platform due to me being stuck with studies and all. I would like to ask anyone knowledgeable a theory. If i were to launch my switch into sysNAND just to use homebrew and then go back to the regular FW, would I still get banned ?


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The only thing I want to do is to use the homebrew and nothing else. There was a time that I was pirating games since I was really young and there was no way for me to get games due to the lack of means I had. Now that I'm grown, I don't feel the need to pirate games at all and I just want to ticker with some games for my own curiosity.

It's not like a couple generations ago, yea, you can get banned.

 

[Goku1992A]

Just Dualboot bro. We are pretty advanced in the switch scene save yourself the time and headache and Dualboot.

But if you not trying to pirate why get CFW at all? Your saves can be backed up on Nintendo server with the exception of certain games and if you tinker with them they will ban you.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

Just Dualboot bro. We are pretty advanced in the switch scene save yourself the time and headache and Dualboot.

But if you not trying to pirate why get CFW at all? Your saves can be backed up on Nintendo server with the exception of certain games and if you tinker with them they will ban you.

There are other use cases for cfw than piracy, from system module like sys-clock to improve the performance, or modules for streaming the screen to the PC like sys-dvr, through homebrew like emulators, fun homebrew games and ports and media applications, to customisation like themes and romhax.
Also some people like to have backups of saves offline available, to not depend on a cloud service, that will get shutdown one day. And save game modification will only get you banned in some games, like splatoon, and in my experience moving them between switches doesn't count as that.

Also unless you want to do things generally concidered dangerous and not recommended (like nsps or xci installation) , want to be 100% instead of maybe 99% safe, or want to have a lower firmware sysnand for exploits, you don't need to use dual boot , while using atmosphere.

 

[Ian095]

I was pirating 3ds games... not switch. Also, its not about second chances when I haven't done anything to my switch yet.

If it was years ago you have nothing to worry about. They couldn't tell if games were pirated up to a certain firmware version on the 3DS.

My advice is boot up hekate and use emunand offline. I'd make a nand backup first just incase though as a fail safe or if you're extra paranoid about being banned.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

If it was years ago you have nothing to worry about. They couldn't tell if games were pirated up to a certain firmware version on the 3DS.

My advice is boot up hekate and use emunand offline. I'd make a nand backup first just incase though as a fail safe or if you're extra paranoid about being banned.

While it's true, that Nintendo can now detect piracy, he said he was pirating on another console in the past, and doesn't want to do it on the switch, so why is everybody so focused on piracy?

 

[Ian095]

While it's true, that Nintendo can now detect piracy, he said he was pirating on another console in the past, and doesn't want to do it on the switch, so why is everybody so focused on piracy?

OP didn't state it was on another console in their original message. Either way, their 3DS likely didn't flag anything up as it wasn't until a certain firmware version in 2017 (I think) that they made it so they could recognise unofficial copies. Still, using Homebrew isn't something Nintendo allows, therefore, the risk is being run by running it even if they don't intend to pirate.

 

[spotanjo3]

Hello guys,

Its been awhile that I've used this platform due to me being stuck with studies and all. I would like to ask anyone knowledgeable a theory. If i were to launch my switch into sysNAND just to use homebrew and then go back to the regular FW, would I still get banned ?


---- Edit ----

The only thing I want to do is to use the homebrew and nothing else. There was a time that I was pirating games since I was really young and there was no way for me to get games due to the lack of means I had. Now that I'm grown, I don't feel the need to pirate games at all and I just want to ticker with some games for my own curiosity.

One word: YES.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

OP didn't state it was on another console in their original message. Either way, their 3DS likely didn't flag anything up as it wasn't until a certain version in 2017 (I think) that they made it so they could recognise unofficial copies. Still, using Homebrew isn't something Nintendo allows, therefore, the risk is being run by running it even if they don't intend to pirate.

Isn't it still only a ban on the 3ds if you try to download games you don't own, not just playing them online?

 

[Mythical]

Just Dualboot bro. We are pretty advanced in the switch scene save yourself the time and headache and Dualboot.

But if you not trying to pirate why get CFW at all? Your saves can be backed up on Nintendo server with the exception of certain games and if you tinker with them they will ban you.

Emulators ftw (even though you can switchroot for most of em without worrying about a ban)

 

[Ian095]

Isn't it still only a ban on the 3ds if you try to download games you don't own, not just playing them online?

No idea never went online on my 3DS since installing custom firmware and even then I stopped playing mine as soon as the Switch came out and never really picked it back up. All I know is Nintendo couldn't detect people using illegitimate copies of a game unless people were stupid and played games weeks before release then a firmware released that apparently changed all that but I'm way too out of touch with it all.

 

[nachuz]

Hello guys,

Its been awhile that I've used this platform due to me being stuck with studies and all. I would like to ask anyone knowledgeable a theory. If i were to launch my switch into sysNAND just to use homebrew and then go back to the regular FW, would I still get banned ?


---- Edit ----

The only thing I want to do is to use the homebrew and nothing else. There was a time that I was pirating games since I was really young and there was no way for me to get games due to the lack of means I had. Now that I'm grown, I don't feel the need to pirate games at all and I just want to ticker with some games for my own curiosity.

If you modded your switch on any shape or form, you can get banned
The question you meant to ask is "Am I still avoiding a ban?"

 

[Goku1992A]

If you modded your switch on any shape or form, you can get banned
The question you meant to ask is "Am I still avoiding a ban?"

I thought Emummc was pretty safe as long as you dont mess up with the internet settings. I haven't experienced a issue

 

[BaamAlex]

I thought Emummc was pretty safe

Nothing is safe on the switch dude

 

[Alm]

If you modded your switch on any shape or form, you can get banned
The question you meant to ask is "Am I still avoiding a ban?"

You're late, i got the answer I wanted.