ub3r1337's first impressions from a direct demo of TX upcoming new hardware mods!

ub3r1337 recently meet with TX to have them demo to him their upcoming new mods for the Switch (patched, mariko and lite). Unfortunately, he didn't get any pictures, but he says they'll be coming later on. Even so, he shared some of this new information at MaxConsole, also shown below:

First Off: It is a hardware mod. TX went back to its roots, and this solution is a device you need to install inside your Switch.

From what we could tell the install looks ultra simple and almost plug and play. When pushed about the install requirements, TX held back from claiming its fully solder-less, stating clearly that this particular design will always benefit from a few simple solder connections, versus the original intent of fully solder-less (at least for the classic model which is the unit we got to inspect).

In other words, a fully solder-less install is potentially possible with the classic models however it is not recommended by TX due to long term reliability concerns (we will cover this more in-depth at a later date, once we have our preview unit in our hands and put it thru some tests)

Second Point: There is one device for Patched and Mariko unit which is probably under production (see point three) and should be available soon They plan to release 2 devices; one for all classic versions (original, patch and mariko) and one for the Switch Lite.

Third Point: I really pushed for a release date, but TX refused to confirm anything during our meeting. From what I understood, even though it seems to be currently under production, because all sorts of things can occur in the factory during production, they will not commit to a date to me or their resellers until they are certain they can deliver on time enough stock to meet the demand.

I guess I can only respect that, this is probably why they did not announce anything yet, and we should know more once it is finally officially announced on their TX website.

At some point ub3r1337 hopes to get some pictures and videos from TX and a review unit, but we have no clue when that will happen. For now we just have to sit and wait for some more news regarding these new TX hardware mods to appear online!

Source: MaxConsole

 

[dpeter]

Release date : June 14th xD

source?

 

[Andalitez]

source?

No source, it's a joke.
June 14 because it's meant to out-do June 15 when Atmosphere drops

 

[Draxzelex]

source?

That joke went over your head didn't it?

 

[dpeter]

That joke went over your head didn't it?

im kinda new, just got a switch and i am learning about the hacking scene, so forgive me for not knowing that

 

[xbLast]

so should we not update our switches?

 

[V-Temp]

I feel like this isn't what a lot of people thought they'd be getting.

This reads like a full on "soft-solder" solution glitcher that is probably considerably safer to actually have soldered directly to the board, and... probably their original product before RCM went public from f0f and shofel. And even when I say "safer", its still a hard mod with all of its potential risks and such long-term.

It also explains why the demo is the old Switch, which has been known to be glitchable for some time, and not Lite/Mariko (why are these still being split? Literally the same hardware), which is why there's a lack of any actual visual evidence for the latter and PoC (hidden) on the former. Wouldn't be surprised if the current form of this thing is an ungodly mess which is why there's no pictures right now.

A glitching attack vector wouldn't be concerned with iPatches either, so this is also likely their year-long promised solution they've likely been trying to make sellable at not an obscene price.

Edit: This quote makes no fucking sense:

Second Point: There is one device for Patched and Mariko unit which is probably under production (see point three) and should be available soon They plan to release 2 devices; one for all classic versions (original, patch and mariko) and one for the Switch Lite.

One hardware mod for two different pieces of hardware, but two different hardware mods for the same hardware.

Nanithefuck?

 

[dpeter]

I feel like this isn't what a lot of people thought they'd be getting.

This reads like a full on "soft-solder" solution glitcher that is probably considerably safer to actually have soldered directly to the board, and... probably their original product before RCM went public from f0f and shofel. And even when I say "safer", its still a hard mod with all of its potential risks and such long-term.

It also explains why the demo is the old Switch, which has been known to be glitchable for some time, and not Lite/Mariko (why are these still being split? Literally the same hardware), which is why there's a lack of any actual visual evidence for the latter and PoC (hidden) on the former. Wouldn't be surprised if the current form of this thing is an ungodly mess which is why there's no pictures right now.

A glitching attack vector wouldn't be concerned with iPatches either, so this is also likely their year-long promised solution they've likely been trying to make sellable at not an obscene price.

Edit: This quote makes no fucking sense:


One hardware mod for two different pieces of hardware, but two different hardware mods for the same hardware.

Nanithefuck?

Couldnt it be because the lite is smaller so the boards arrengements inside the device is different? Making a device with a different size/shape needed?

 

[V-Temp]

Couldnt it be because the lite is smaller so the boards arrengements inside the device is different? Making a device with a different size/shape needed?

The only differences would come down the length of some wires, the overall hardware of the Lite and the Mariko-Switch that you'd be attacking is identical.

I mean, think about the meaning of that quote: a hardware mod works on two very different pieces of hardware no problem, but doesn't work on the same hardware which is only differentiated by minor form factor differences? Doesn't that sound odd to you?

Unless they are asking you to solder a brick to the back of your device (or less dramatically stated: something so large that it has to factor in form factor in how it is installed), the form factor shouldn't matter.

 

[dpeter]

The only differences would come down the length of some wires, the overall hardware of the Lite and the Mariko-Switch that you'd be attacking is identical.

I mean, think about the meaning of that quote: a hardware mod works on two very different pieces of hardware no problem, but doesn't work on the same hardware which is only differentiated by minor form factor differences? Doesn't that sound odd to you?

Unless they are asking you to solder a brick to the back of your device (or less dramatically stated: something so large that it has to factor in form factor in how it is installed), the form factor shouldn't matter.

Or they are trying a perfect fit in each device, since they claim it works solderless but its not recommended

 

[V-Temp]

Or they are trying a perfect fit in each device, since they claim it works solderless but its not recommended

Something being "solderless" but not recommended tells you don't install it without solder, tbqh. Solderless usually means crimp connections or loop-pins which are prone to failure and, in result, prone to breaking the thing you connected them to when the wiring fails and you randomly bridge some other connection point.

Also why would it being solderless matter? Solder is about connecting some wires/pins to some other wires/pins, again form factor would only define the length of some wires. Wires do not take a lot space.

Also if its solderless, then it can't be a very 'fine' match of connection points because those an incongruous concepts.

The other issue is the working on old vs. new unit designs, they aren't the same so the point you're raising is already sort of defeated by it somehow apparently functioning on very different hardware to begin with. Can't be a perfect fit for two very different pieces of hardware.

 

[SXAintSoBad]

tldr; version of this thread and the last thread on the same topic for the time-poor.

You can hack older original Switches.
You can't hack patched or Lite Switches.
TX may or may not have a solution.
Atmosphere users do not have a solution.

Much bickering ensues.
Atmo crowd says TX is evil and makes Jesus cry.
TX crowd says: Don't care and Atmo users are basically all just pirates like us.

Repeat ad infinitum until (or if) a real product appears. Then shift the goalposts and bicker about something else TX related.

 

[dpeter]

tldr; version of this thread and the last thread on the same topic for the time-poor.

You can hack older original Switches.
You can't hack patched or Lite Switches.
TX may or may not have a solution.
Atmosphere users do not have a solution.

Much bickering ensues.
Atmo crowd says TX is evil and makes Jesus cry.
TX crowd says: Don't care and Atmo users are basically all just pirates like us.

Repeat ad infinitum until (or if) a real product appears. Then shift the goalposts and bicker about something else TX related.

sounds about right

 

[EricX]

Many thanks to TX!

 

[DeoNaught]

The only differences would come down the length of some wires, the overall hardware of the Lite and the Mariko-Switch that you'd be attacking is identical.

Not necessarily, Same hardware mod chip, different implementation.
if this is a good mod chip, all you need to do is push the mod chip to the board, and solder the connections, Like a PCB sandwich

Now "Solder-less" mod chip scares me, using pressure/tape/adhesive/whatever as a substitute for soldering scares me, because loose connection isn't fun. it COULD be pogo-pins, that'd be cool, but kind of hard for hardware that you don't own.

 

[evertonstz]

Now "Solder-less" mod chip scares me, using pressure/tape/adhesive/whatever as a substitute for soldering scares me, because loose connection isn't fun. it COULD be pogo-pins, that'd be cool, but kind of hard for hardware that you don't own.

You tell that to my to hot glue pistol. If this is a solder-less chip I'm gonna shooting hot glue in my switch like there's no tomorrow. Hope it's not, tho, just got some quality flux and am looking for some excuse to use it.

 

[DeoNaught]

You tell that to my to hot glue pistol. If this is a solder-less chip I'm gonna shooting hot glue in my switch like there's no tomorrow. Hope it's not, tho, just got some quality flux and am looking for some excuse to use it.

I love Flux man, Kester is majic juice

But hot glue in electronics is no no pls

 

[thesjaakspoiler]

Or they are trying a perfect fit in each device, since they claim it works solderless but its not recommended

The big difference between the orignal Switch and the Lite model is that on the original Switch both the NAND and the game cart reader are on seperate boards. The Lite has everything soldered to the mainboard.

My wild guess is that the TX guys have figured out a way to do some sort man-in-the-middle attack with the game carts.
If they would have figured out the game cart encryption system, then they would most likely be releasing something like a R4 cart.
I presume they modify some system library so that the Switch always generates to same security key to communicate with the game cart. Then they can inject their own signed code.
But we'll see.
For now, I get myself another bucket of popcorn to enjoy the trolling and flamebaits.

 

[kamesenin888]

What we should do is tag all the haters if the product is real, I think admins won't mind people telling them in notifications

 

[Andalitez]

What we should do is tag all the haters if the product is real, I think admins won't mind people telling them in notifications

The argument is, who is considered a hater?

 

[larrypretty]

I'm not familiar with modchip at all, will it be more expensive than SX Pro? I see the listed seller-Mod3dscard and many other sites sold it at 10+ US dollars, is that the final price?