Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been arrested

[D34DL1N3R]

Now please arrest Trump. Today he said "I know nothing about WikiLeaks!", in 2016 he said "Oh, we love WikiLeaks!" and praised it 160 TIMES DURING THE 2016 CAMPAIGN. ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TIMES!!! Just like every other time he's backtracked on things he says... including the many times over that he's backtracked on Russia comments. I know them, I don't know them, I've had great meetings with them, I've never met them, I've done plenty of business with them, I've never done business with them....blah blah blah blah blah. Or people who previously worked for him - Oh, he's one of the best! He's a great friend and I've known him for years. Next thing is Who? I don't know him and I've never talked to him before. How do his supporters keep justifying his outright lies and continual backpedaling? Anyone supporting that MAGA loser is every bit as vile, disgusting, and unintelligent as Trump himself is. No wall, no tax break except for the rich, no health plan info until after possibly being reelected, etc. So much winning. Not.

 

[Viri]

Regardless, I doubt he deserves the treatment he's going to get.

If the US gets him, they're going to give him a one way trip to Gitmo. Also, Christ, he looks awful, I guess being stuck in a room for x amount of years does that to you. He gives me Saddam vibes, after they found him.

 

[nando]

So did Snowden. You are talking hundreds of documents to go through redact and see what is safe to not put us in National Security risk. So of course they wont release it all at once.

that was not the reason. that's not why someone goes on talkshows to hype the release of documents to destroy a political party. i'm sorry you bought it, but i don't. his intent was not benevolent for the benefit of the people. and i didn't make any argument for snowden so i don't care if "so did snowden"

 

[kuwanger]

Now many on the left are cheering for his arrest because of the stupid Russia Gate conspiracy theory nonsense. Which has no evidence to support and shown to be false.

While I don't entirely consider myself someone on the left--as I frequently don't agree with the Democrats on things--, I honestly don't care if he did or didn't engage in a conspiracy with Russia to meddle with the election. It's not illegal nor should it be for individuals to meddle in elections, especially foreign ones. If that were the standard to use, we should arrest and convict most multinational corporate CEOs since lobbying for influence is the norm and virtually none are seriously beholden to a single country. More importantly, Assange is specifically not beholden to the US in either citizenship or jurisdiction, and it's patently absurd to apply US law by proxy of treaty in other countries.

Having said that, yes Assange should be arrested and properly punished for skipping bail. At this point, the extradition by Sweden should be null and void even if they attempted to further pursue it as they've demonstrated an unwillingness to pursue it for years without good justification--they could have put it on hold without dismissing it. If the UK wanted to expel him after punishment, that'd also be pretty reasonable.

 

[CORE]

Anything Withheld from the Public is Treason Simple as that!

 

[notimp]

Assange was worth 4.2 billion. In credit.

Not too shabby...

https://www.enca.com/business/imf-approves-42bn-loan-ecuador

 

[notimp]

Democracy Now has Assanges defense team on camera:


They also cite a bunch of cival society figures speaking out on behalf on Assange.

According to the legal team of Assange, Ecuador is in violation of international law, ecuadorian constituttional law, ecuadorian case law...

Also the reason for the extradition request is the international warrant taken out by the US, and not the Sweden case.

Also Snowden has tweeted in full support of Assange (line of questioning previously in this thread). Reporters Without Borders has also spoken out on his behalf.

 

[notimp]

Also in honor of the developments of the day - I think it hasnt been said clearly enough as of now.

Fuck the US.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Also in honor of the developments of the day - I think it hasnt been said clearly enough as of now.

Fuck the US.

Oh, please. Stop acting like your precious little country is pure perfection and that no one there ever does any wrong. Just because there are some bad/unethical people in the US, you're just going to post "Fuck the US" in it's entirety? If that's going to be the case, and solely because of your single post above...

Fuck Japan.

See how incredibly stupid you sound now?

 

[notimp]

Yes especially as I'm not even japanese. People who live to defend national myths are stupid.

And they are openly insane, if they do it in face of outright corruption and injustice.

I stand by my statement.

And today I think it has to stand.

Because otherwise we talk more about the person again, than about the actual violations of law here.

The statement somehow - emotionally - feels right and needed.

Same old story, idiots think politics is a game of faces an he said, she said. Just because you sell more papers/clicks that way. And in all that talk about names, and motivations, you dont care the least about violated legal principals, bribed governments, and UK policemen with a smirk of joy on their face, when they see someone being manhandled.

This has pushed it over the top for me. Video footage of a bobby having an internal orgasm, while someone is dragged into a van. Violating international law. Broadcast all over the world.


To spell this out once more. Assange was given the ecuadorian citizenship. So this is a case of one country being invited, to arrest another countries citizen, in one of their embassies. Thats "never been heard of" quality of reality distortion at play here. And the real trick is, that no one is talking about that.

 

[Xzi]

Was only a matter of time. Frankly I'd rather he be put on trial and charged in the UK, as our nation's top law enforcement official is in the pocket of the president and currently engaged in a cover-up scandal. The only reason for the Trump administration to want him charged here is so that they can give him a sweetheart plea deal, much like they did for Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[Joe88]

To spell this out once more. Assange was given the ecuadorian citizenship. So this is a case of one country being invited, to arrest another countries citizen, in one of their embassies. Thats "never been heard of" quality of reality distortion at play here. And the real trick is, that no one is talking about that.

He was granted asylum status. Then his status was revoked and assange would not leave requiring the use of UK police to remove him from the embassy by force which ecuuador allowed in. According to the ecuadorian embassy tensions were rising within the last few weeks/months between them and assange, he was playing load music all night, playing with a soccerball in the hall ways, roller skating in the building causing damage to to the property, refused to clean up after his cat, becoming paranoid and thought embassy staff were spying for the US and apparently he was mistreating them. Lets just say releasing classified documents on ecuador wasnt helping anything either. He also smeared his own fecal matter all over the walls before he was removed.
Don't bite the hands that feeds you.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...t-follow-new-ecuador-embassy-rules-says-judge

 

[JoeBloggs777]

Corbyn wants to block any extradition because Assange exposed evidence of atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan

 

[Deleted User]

Is this the guy who neglected a cat he received from a family visit?

 

[H1B1Esquire]

How to get exonerated:



Make sure no one remembers what you did.

 

[Xzi]

How to get exonerated:



Make sure no one remembers what you did.

For all we know, there's evidence in the Mueller report that Trump directed Roger Stone to communicate with Assange and Wikileaks. Short of that, however, this is just another one of those lies that most people brush aside as "Trump being Trump." Completely oblivious to the fact that the bar used to be a lot higher for presidents, and one of the articles of impeachment for Nixon was, "lying to the American people."

 

[SG854]

Chelsea Manning is a Hero. She has a conscience risked and herself being persecuted by breaking the stupid law to bring us information about our government.

Julian Assange is a hero. Who cares if he or she broke the law. This takes courage knowing the bad that will come. You people supporting this arrest and punishment are siding with the enemy. Who gives a crap about some stupid law put in there to limit free speech and freedom of the press. We have a right to know what our government is up to, people pay taxes and have a right to know what know what they do. How can anybody support this?

This is a huge hit on our first amendment rights and on whistle blowers. That they can’t take secretive government information that the public should know. That somehow that’s a criminal offense. Don’t talk ill or expose the government or else we’ll persecute you. If the Trump administration goes hard on Assange then they are trash.

 

[Xzi]

Julian Assange is a hero. Who cares if he or she broke the law. This takes courage knowing the bad that will come. You people supporting this arrest and punishment are siding with the enemy. Who gives a crap about some stupid law put in there to limit free speech and freedom of the press. We have a right to know what our government is up to, people pay taxes and have a right to know what know what they do. How can anybody support this?

Assange is a narcissist and an opportunist who helped adversaries of the US compromise the integrity of its presidential election. He stopped being a "hero" the second he decided to push a political agenda rather than continuing to publish all leaks pertaining to illegal/unethical behavior in an independent manner. Wikileaks transitioned from being a reliable source for leaks into just another tabloid rag years ago.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

publish all leaks

Just wanted to clear that up for people who may not know: Assange published documents; people, like C. Manning helped (Assange) with the details.

 

[dAVID_]

Assange is a narcissist and an opportunist who helped adversaries of the US compromise the integrity of its presidential election. He stopped being a "hero" the second he decided to push a political agenda rather than continuing to publish all leaks pertaining to illegal/unethical behavior in an independent manner. Wikileaks transitioned from being a reliable source for leaks into just another tabloid rag years ago.

By releasing the Hillary Clinton e-mail archives?

 

[Xzi]

By releasing the Hillary Clinton e-mail archives?

No, by failing to release leaks that they were known to have in-hand. Leaks pertaining to things that would look bad for Republicans and/or Russian oligarchs, along with other political parties that Assange personally favored around the globe. He was obviously growing more and more self-centered with the goal of Wikileaks as time went on, and the reasons for his being kicked out of the embassy certainly reinforce that in recent years.

I suppose you can make the argument that if Assange had released anything pertaining to the Russian government, he would have been dead in a number of days. I'd agree with that. Maybe the saying is true: you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

 

[Glyptofane]

Was only a matter of time. Frankly I'd rather he be put on trial and charged in the UK, as our nation's top law enforcement official is in the pocket of the president and currently engaged in a cover-up scandal. The only reason for the Trump administration to want him charged here is so that they can give him a sweetheart plea deal, much like they did for Jeffrey Epstein.

I mean, honestly, I am an Assange supporter even years ago when he was considered a leftist MO sort of guy. Still, today's news disgusts and saddens me. This guy's existence is definitely one of the contributing factors that influenced Trump's election, which I now realize is just Kushner and Bibi. They fooled me, Jerry. I don't expect Trump to pardon or make this right or do anything Great really.

Yang and/or Gabbard 2020

 

[Xzi]

I mean, honestly, I am an Assange supporter even years ago when he was considered a leftist MO sort of guy. Still, today's news disgusts and saddens me. This guy's existence is definitely one of the contributing factors that influenced Trump's election, which I now realize is just Kushner and Bibi. They fooled me, Jerry. I don't expect Trump to pardon or make this right or do anything Great really.

Yang and/or Gabbard 2020

I'd be happy to have Yang as the candidate, idk about Gabbard. Lots of good candidates on the Democratic side though TBH. Sanders is promising everything short of a UBI like Yang is. I think Julian Castro is a really good potential candidate that often gets overlooked, as well. He's young but still has quite a bit of relevant experience, much like Yang.