Hacking Discussion Where is SX OS and 7.0-1 Support?

[Rasa39]

i think you will find its always the other way around, its the haters that start posting their hate. most of the time they are first to post their hate in the very first post of a SX thread.

then they start posting their lies that a free CFW is better or has more features than SX. which is a lie.

I had a GW card from the start to, from what i remember it was a while before free CFW was released. my kids still use their GW card in the 3ds now. no doubt I'll get GW haters telling me that i wasted money there to after many years of use

Well most "hate" starts as criticism, which turns to hate when consumers begin to get butthurt over said criticisms, not saying that is you, but they are definitely people who take it as a personal attack when someone is sceptical or critical about a product they consume/endorse.

But the point I was making is why care, so many people hated on GW (especially at launch when it could only have 1 game per sd card), and I would have rather shit in my hands and clap than take to my keyboard to defend GW from all the lies and truths that criticised the product. If you're not associated with the company then why bother getting riled up over competition and/or lies.

Just enjoy what you spent your money on and let everyone else bitch about it if they feel the need. Either way both sides of any argument on this forum about paid vs free always boils down to nothing and in the end it's just two dudes loyally battling it out on why the product they backed is still the best, while everyone else moves on to greener pastures.

 

[blahblah]

I dont think so , If TX sort the 7.X problem out, I would still recommend people i know to buy a SX pro, because as a package it works well , i know i've used it for 8 months. the people i know who have switches could manage cut and pasting XCI files, using a jig and a dongle. but I know if they were to use a mobile. usb cable and install NSP files they would get problems.

There is no level of technical illiteracy that includes being competent enough to use SX OS but also too incompetent to use Atmosphere/Hekate/ReiNX. You are fanboying SX OS again.

Using an RCMLoader to boot CFW takes the USB cable/mobile part out.

Cut and pasting an NSP is the same as cut and pasting an XCI.

The only additional step is clicking 'Goldleaf' when you open Gallery (and you can even set things up so that Goldleaf would be the only option when the gallery is opened, reducing the risk of the user forgetting what to do in the future) and selecting the game for install as opposed to selecting the game from the SX OS menu for mounting. That's it. That is not an additional level of difficulty. If anything, it is slightly easier in the long run - the user doesn't have to mount the game each time they want to play it. They can spend life in the normal, official Nintendo interface for all operations other than installing new games.

 

[Rasa39]

Anyone still using gateway for their 3ds at this point is just computer illiterate..

I really wanted to for the cheat engine, I know there are cheat plugins but I never saw an actual live ram editor like GW had. Just waiting for that 11.9 emunand that will come some day, then I can finally make use of it again, it'll happen soon™ though so I'm not worried about it.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

You're out and about. Your switch locked up, and because you are running SX OS, it can't auto-inject the payload upon a crash like Atmo and Hekate can. You need to inject the payload. But, crap, your SX dongle is dead! Hope you got a micro USB charger....

In other words, it's a crappy user experience. Stop fanboying for your $20 purchase. No need to get all defensive.

sorry the switch has been out with the kids in the car, they've taken it out on days out, its even been to the other side of the world, if the SX pro dongle is flat it charges in seconds. after 8 months of use I've not had a problem.

the switch has never locked up, the only time i've used the dongle is if i take the sd card out or turned it off. 99% of the time it's in standby

 

[Deleted User]

I really wanted to for the cheat engine, I know there are cheat plugins but I never saw an actual live ram editor like GW had. Just waiting for that 11.9 emunand that will come some day, then I can finally make use of it again, it'll happen soon™ though so I'm not worried about it.

That's fair, the cheat engine for the 3ds isn't super great, but emunand is essentially worthless now

 

[Lacius]

There is no level of technical illiteracy that includes being competent enough to use SX OS but also too incompetent to use Atmosphere/Hekate/ReiNX. You are fanboying SX OS again.

Using an RCMLoader to boot CFW takes the USB cable/mobile part out.

Cut and pasting an NSP is the same as cut and pasting an XCI.

The only additional step is clicking 'Goldleaf' when you open Gallery (and you can even set things up so that Goldleaf would be the only option when the gallery is opened, reducing the risk of the user forgetting what to do in the future) and selecting the game for install as opposed to selecting the game from mount in the SX OS menu. That's it. That is not an additional level of difficulty.

Installing an NSP using a USB connection is analogous to having to move the XCI to the SD card anyway. In fact, the former is simpler.

 

[blahblah]

sorry the switch has been out with the kids in the car, they've taken it out on days out, its even been to the other side of the world, if the SX pro dongle is flat it charges in seconds. after 8 months of use I've not had a problem.

the switch has never locked up, the only time i've used the dongle is if i take the sd card out or turned it off. 99% of the time it's in standby

Yes, but the SX dongle cannot charge from a Switch that is in RCM mode. That's the problem. It sucks.

The Switch sometimes locks up. It's a thing that happens. Computers do that sometimes.

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Installing an NSP using a USB connection is analogous to having to move the XCI to the SD card anyway. In fact, the former is simpler.

Particurally because you do not have to mount the NSP each time you want to play the game. It's a one time process, rather than having to dick around in the SX menu each time you want to switch a game.

 

[josete2k]

You're out and about. Your switch locked up, and because you are running SX OS, it can't auto-inject the payload upon a crash like Atmo and Hekate can. You need to inject the payload. But, crap, your SX dongle is dead! Hope you got a micro USB charger....

In other words, it's a crappy user experience. Stop fanboying for your $20 purchase. No need to get all defensive.

I have modchip with SXOS (hekate and AMS can run too).

I play online with my sysnand and backups with emunand with only a few clicks. Can you play online with your switch?

 

[Rasa39]

That's fair, the cheat engine for the 3ds isn't super great, but emunand is essentially worthless now

Yeah I was being sarcastic about that emunand part lol. Not that I use it much now, but I love being able to do everything on sysnand without breaking anything at all.

 

[blahblah]

I have modchip with SXOS (hekate and AMS can run too).

I play online with my sysnand and backups with emunand with only a few clicks. Can you play online with your switch?

That is a genuine SX advantage at the moment, and the only reason I ever boot into SX OS myself. This isn't SX OS vs Atmosphere, it is bullshit versus reality. JoeBloggs is posting bullshit.

(I, personally, can play online, but that has nothing to do with SX itself. Stuff I did that i'm not going to post about yet)

 

[Lacius]

Particurally because you do not have to mount the NSP each time you want to play the game. It's a one time process, rather than having to dick around in the SX menu each time you want to switch a game.

And I don't have to power off my system, remove my SD card, put the XCI on, mount the SD card, and launch CFW using a jig/dongle each time I want to add a game.

All I have to do is, with my Switch still on, plug it into my computer and install the game.

 

[Essasetic]

Jesus Christ this thread has derailed hard.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

Reasons to change it:

Being able to install modern games without relying on random dudes on warez sites to repack them so that Gateway will take them

Being able to play online

Being able to run current firmware

eShop stuff works correctly, legitimately downloaded free/paid content from the eShop will actually run

Not having to boot with a DRM dongle

Did I mention that online play works?

Games haven't worked for a long, long time without being repacked for Gateway. Around the time A9LH became a thing, if memory serves. When A9LH dropped, there was really no excuse to stay on Gateway. The only nicety left was being able to mount a cartridge from microSD, but the trade off in having to play a risky game with certificate injection in order to play online made it not worth it. Now Gateway is completely dead and has been for much longer than the Switch has been out. And Nintendo added that thing where you have to be on up-to-date firmware in order to play online, and it's been a rather long time since Gateway has been up to date.

yes but my kids have moved on and they don't want to play online games, even now.
yes i see the advantages of what you post but they dont use the 3ds much, maybe just to play their few fav games now and again.

well you would be surprised how many games would still work on, i think their 3ds emunand was on 9.X , i know you can still update the firmware using S/W from other sources. but everyone has moved on. for a few games that dont work its not worth my time .

but thanks for the info.

 

[Rasa39]

Also where are the off-topic police? Cos op asked about SXOS hurrying their ass up to support the latest fw. Not who's dongle is smaller than who's, or any of the stuff I mentioned tbf but hey, it's off-topic.

 

[josete2k]

And I don't have to power off my system, remove my SD card, put the XCI on, mount the SD card, and launch CFW using a jig/dongle each time I want to add a game.

All I have to do is, with my Switch still on, plug it into my computer and install the game.

You can install nsp with SXOS too.

 

[blahblah]

yes but my kids have moved on and they don't want to play online games, even now.
yes i see the advantages of what you post but they dont use the 3ds much, maybe just to play their few fav games now and again.

well you would be surprised how many games would still work on, i think their 3ds emunand was on 9.X , i know you can still update the firmware using S/W from other sources. but everyone has moved on. for a few games that dont work its not worth my time .

but thanks for the info.

Gateway was dead something like 3 years ago. The moment A9LH came out, and arguably before. Online games aren't the only advantage, it's just a ton of stuff. Games working all the time, no hunting for weird Gateway versions, official game updates from Nintendo working, eShop content working, current firmware working, no bullshit, no emuNAND crap to deal with (slow speed, linking, OFW updates breaking stuff all the time, etc)

JESUS. An emuNAND? On the 3DS? You're really hopeless, just addicted to commercial piracy solutions and opposed to anything actually reliable or objectively better or free. God, how long has it been since anyone should have a 3DS emunand? January 2016, right?

 

[Lacius]

You can install nsp with SXOS too.

You seem to have missed the point of the conversation. The argument that was presented was that XCI files are easy to use and worth the price of SX OS. My argument was they aren't significantly easier to use than NSP files, and they aren't worth the price tag.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

There is no level of technical illiteracy that includes being competent enough to use SX OS but also too incompetent to use Atmosphere/Hekate/ReiNX. You are fanboying SX OS again.

Using an RCMLoader to boot CFW takes the USB cable/mobile part out.

Cut and pasting an NSP is the same as cut and pasting an XCI.

The only additional step is clicking 'Goldleaf' when you open Gallery (and you can even set things up so that Goldleaf would be the only option when the gallery is opened, reducing the risk of the user forgetting what to do in the future) and selecting the game for install as opposed to selecting the game from the SX OS menu for mounting. That's it. That is not an additional level of difficulty. If anything, it is slightly easier in the long run - the user doesn't have to mount the game each time they want to play it. They can spend life in the normal, official Nintendo interface for all operations other than installing new games.

thanks for the info,
it looks like things have moved on alot in the scene since SX came out. maybe i'll try Atmos for my friends, but for now I'm sticking with SX. I don't have a problem with Atmos, but just the haters of SX who post BS.

 

[josete2k]

You seem to have missed the point of the conversation. The argument that was presented was that XCI files are easy to use and worth the price of SX OS. My argument was they aren't significantly easier to use than NSP files, and they aren't worth the price tag.

Well, I prefer copy/paste and not installing games.

 

[Lacius]

Well, I prefer copy/paste and not installing games.

You can see my earlier post about how it's easier and requires fewer steps to install NSP files over a USB connection than it is to add XCI files to your SD card.