Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

[V-Temp]

Interesting. Good to know for future reference.

A lot of people have copped bans from trying this at this point. So, ya, don't do it.

 

[Draxzelex]

It seems like not make any sense to me and most homebrew bans only used access to online (WiFi setting enabled) and eShop simultaneously that wasn’t case for me when I used strictly offline, also I cleared the logs before go to online as you said that clear the logs are dangerous if went online with hack at same time until I unlinked and sold my Switch without any ancknowledge about ban and Nintendo told me that many people tried to unlink had banned Switch. I spent all night to check the ban reports.

I said that homebrew will be used in 3.0.2 to import saves only and remove afterwards, so no hacks will be continued after upgrade to 6.0. Restore clean NAND removes any saves that import?

What about use creport instead of clear logs?

Just combed through them again and you're mostly right; majority of the homebrew only bans were due to connecting online with homebrew (with the exception of 2 with one of them for clearing error logs). Doesn't mean what you're doing is 100% safe but 99% safe is pretty good too I guess.

A clean NAND would wipe out evidence of everything from homebrew to CFW to .NSP.

Creport has replaced nx-dreport. Nx-dreport was deemed so dangerous that it was depreciated by the original author.

 

[JeepX87]

Just combed through them again and you're mostly right; majority of the homebrew only bans were due to connecting online with homebrew (with the exception of 2 with one of them for clearing error logs). Doesn't mean what you're doing is 100% safe but 99% safe is pretty good too I guess.

A clean NAND would wipe out evidence of everything from homebrew to CFW to .NSP.

Creport has replaced nx-dreport. Nx-dreport was deemed so dangerous that it was depreciated by the original author.

It looks like they possibly docked Switch by accident with airplane mode enabled and what's tricky move from Nintendo.

Where I find to enable creport? Is it accessible on Hekate?

 

[Draxzelex]

It looks like they possibly docked Switch by accident with airplane mode enabled and what's tricky move from Nintendo.

Where I find to enable creport? Is it accessible on Hekate?

Creport is a sysmodule reimplemented by Atmosphere that you can download from RajNX, Kosmos, or the official Atmosphere releases.

 

[JeepX87]

Creport is a sysmodule reimplemented by Atmosphere that you can download from RajNX, Kosmos, or the official Atmosphere releases.

Just like nx-dreport did?

 

[Draxzelex]

Just like nx-dreport did?

Yes, dreport wasn't built into Hekate; it had to be compiled separately and then manually added.

 

[CharlesHoy]

This may sound really dumb but can you get banned for changing the colour of your Joy-Cons? I’ve done this but have not used them since I’ve updated.

 

[JeepX87]

Yes, dreport wasn't built into Hekate; it had to be compiled separately and then manually added.

Ok, I have a question.

Can I delete stuffs in creport folder 0100000000000036?

How I can go back to stock firmware OFW after use with CFW? Power Switch off?

 

[Cyber Akuma]

Seems like just about nothing is safe then? I currently have a stock 6.1 Switch, and was planning on using fusee gelee to just simply dump a backup of my keys/nand/fuses before updating it to 6.2 without actually installing any CFW or homebrew or emunand or anything, I figured at least that might be safe but it seems as if not even that is the case?

 

[Freezerbomb]

This may sound really dumb but can you get banned for changing the colour of your Joy-Cons? I’ve done this but have not used them since I’ve updated.

If "changing the colour of your Joy-Cons" means swapping the plastic case out or painting it. Then there's no ban risk for that. Nintendo doesn't care about that kinda thing. They would probably think it's cool.

 

[Draxzelex]

Ok, I have a question.

Can I delete stuffs in creport folder 0100000000000036?

How I can go back to stock firmware OFW after use with CFW? Power Switch off?

Creport is basically the ...36 folder. And to go back to OFW, you have to restart the console.

 

[thorasgar]

Seems like just about nothing is safe then? I currently have a stock 6.1 Switch, and was planning on using fusee gelee to just simply dump a backup of my keys/nand/fuses before updating it to 6.2 without actually installing any CFW or homebrew or emunand or anything, I figured at least that might be safe but it seems as if not even that is the case?

How are you getting that impression? I certainly hope not as I just did that with one of my stock 6.1 Switches. Just running Hekate to dump stuff shouldn’t cause a problem becuase no CFW is run. Though I didn’t get the BIS keys as I beleive CFW has to run for those.

Given the current state of the scene not sure if the backups will be of any use however.

Let’s see what @Draxzelex has to say. Will find out soon enough as I will have to update it to 6.2 sooner rather than later.

 

[Draxzelex]

Everything in RCM is theoretically undetectable (its loaded before the NAND so how would Nintendo detect this?). Hence why I wrote the best way to avoid bans was for people to dump and restore a clean hack-free NAND prior to going online as well as staying offline with all manner of CFW & homebrew. Now supposedly one person made a NAND backup using SX OS and was banned for restoring it after updating their firmware online to 6.2 but the one problem I see here is that the NAND backup was made in SX OS, not Hekate. The main difference between the two is that SX OS does not verify the NAND backup while Hekate does so its impossible SX OS made a botched NAND dump that flagged said user for a ban once he restored it.

So to recap, no one has been banned for making a clean NAND backup in Hekate, staying offline with hacks, and restoring that same NAND backup prior to going online. The same can be applied to whatever else you can dump in RCM; keys, boot0/boot1, fuse info, etc.

 

[Cyber Akuma]

RCM mode does not in any way log anything? I was directed to this topic when someone mentioned to me that it's possible the Switch has some sort of RCM count or something.

 

[Draxzelex]

RCM mode does not in any way log anything? I was directed to this topic when someone mentioned to me that it's possible the Switch has some sort of RCM count or something.

The Switch can log if it was booted via RCM but from what I am told, Hekate resets this flag so the console doesn't know any better. Don't know if the same logic can be applied to SX OS but I'm assuming the other open-source bootloaders (namely ReiNX and Fusee for Atmosphere) do the same reset as Hekate.

 

[CharlesHoy]

If "changing the colour of your Joy-Cons" means swapping the plastic case out or painting it. Then there's no ban risk for that. Nintendo doesn't care about that kinda thing. They would probably think it's cool.

Obviously I know that but there’s the software that changes the joy-con colour code on the chip

 

[Cyber Akuma]

The Switch can log if it was booted via RCM but from what I am told, Hekate resets this flag so the console doesn't know any better. Don't know if the same logic can be applied to SX OS but I'm assuming the other open-source bootloaders (namely ReiNX and Fusee for Atmosphere) do the same reset as Hekate.

I see, I was looking up what that Hekate thing is, and it appears to be a CFW? I was trying to avoid installing anything on my Switch. Are all these warnings about 6.2 something I need to worry about if I am not planning to hack my Switch yet for another year or so? I thought that since my Switch is vulnerable to Fusee I could wait until I was ready to do so and had more or less played the games I wanted so I wouldn't have to worry about screwing it up, but now I heard that apparently I would lose some keys permanently if I don't back then up before updating to 6.2? Are those keys just for downgrading to 6.1 or do they have some other importance that would still matter a year or so from now if I wanted to hack my Switch that's on whatever the latest firmware would be by then?

 

[Draxzelex]

I see, I was looking up what that Hekate thing is, and it appears to be a CFW? I was trying to avoid installing anything on my Switch. Are all these warnings about 6.2 something I need to worry about if I am not planning to hack my Switch yet for another year or so? I thought that since my Switch is vulnerable to Fusee I could wait until I was ready to do so and had more or less played the games I wanted so I wouldn't have to worry about screwing it up, but now I heard that apparently I would lose some keys permanently if I don't back then up before updating to 6.2? Are those keys just for downgrading to 6.1 or do they have some other importance that would still matter a year or so from now if I wanted to hack my Switch that's on whatever the latest firmware would be by then?

Hekate is not a CFW, it is a bootloader aka the tool used to run CFW like Atmosphere, ReiNX, or SX OS.

The issue with firmware 6.2 in a nutshell is that in order to patch the firmware, it needs to be decrypted. These keys were all kept in the bootloader which we had full access to. Now one of the keys is in another chip outside of the bootloader known as the TSEC and we can't access the TSEC without a TSEC exploit. This will be a problem for CFW and piracy down the road if not cracked once games are encrypted with this key because we can't dump anything that uses it.

 

[matte_f]

I've hacked my Switch around... I'd say from May to August. I then stopped because I was scared of getting banned. What's weird is that, many MANY people that have used CFW and then stopped got banned. I guess either I'm lucky or... I honestly don't know lol
Info:
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware?N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? Y
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N
Trimmed .XCI? Y/N
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y, Activated the license
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)?N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? I'd say one of the first, I can't say for sure.
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? Y
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? Y
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu?N
Installed any .NSP? N
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? N
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y I used hekate.
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
AutoRCM? TX
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: 5.o.2
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Console/Account Region(s) Europe, Italy for both
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? RCM Jig and TegraRCM GUI
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? N Bridged 1 and 10
That's all

 

[Draxzelex]

I've hacked my Switch around... I'd say from May to August. I then stopped because I was scared of getting banned. What's weird is that, many MANY people that have used CFW and then stopped got banned. I guess either I'm lucky or... I honestly don't know lol

Yup. Pretty much confirms bans are random. Some people do everything possible and don't get banned while others do the minimum but are not so lucky. Also I find it weird you checked "Yes" to using non-SX OS LayeredFS online but indicated no to using it offline (using it online means you used it offline by default).

Also congratulations on surpassing 500 ban reports!