Judge to hold hearing Wednesday into CNN's White House lawsuit

[Attacker3]

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A U.S. federal judge says he will hold a hearing Wednesday on CNN's lawsuit against the Trump administration seeking the speedy reinstatement of press credentials for White House correspondent Jim Acosta, a frequent target of President Donald Trump.

In its lawsuit filed on Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Washington, the cable news network said the White House violated the First Amendment right to free speech as well as the due process clause of the Constitution providing fair treatment through judicial process.


Several journalists and organizations — including the American Society of News Editors, the Associated Press Media Editors and the Online News Association — have demanded Acosta's access be reinstated.

What do you guys think? I find it hilarious that this is going to go to court, just because of the implications. If this is somehow found in violation of the 1st Amendment, then it opens up the floodgate for anyone and everyone to get a press pass. They'll have to give any YouTuber, anyone at all a press pass if this is a right to go to one of these.

CNN is making a mistake. "Alt-Tech" is on the rise, and this will empower them more. Content creators like Styxhexxenhammer666 and any other independent creators will now have the same rights and CNN and other big guys. While I don't agree that this is a 1st Amendment violation, I 100% support this lawsuit, just based on how beneficial it will be for independent news sources and Alt-Tech.

 

[Kioku]

The big news media outlets need to get a grip. They don't get their way and cry about it "violating their rights". Yet, they'll twist stories to fit an agenda and cover up real issues and neglect the good in the world. I hope they get laughed out of court. This shouldn't be happening.

 

[Attacker3]

The big news media outlets need to get a grip. They don't get their way and cry about it "violating their rights". Yet, they'll twist stories to fit an agenda and cover up real issues and neglect the good in the world. I hope they get laughed out of court. This shouldn't be happening.

Especially when CNN could just send another reporter.

 

[the_randomizer]

CNN, what a bunch of whiny bitching crybabies.

Get over it already, CNN, grow up

 

[Attacker3]

CNN, what a bunch of whiny bitching crybabies.

Get over it already, CNN, grow up

This most likely isn't them just being sad that they got kicked out, it's a strategic move to get more attention onto themselves, and thus more viewers on their channel. I don't know if that's worse or better than being sad that their reporter got banned for refusing to listen to White House rules.

 

[the_randomizer]

This most likely isn't them just being sad that they got kicked out, it's a strategic move to get more attention onto themselves, and thus more viewers on their channel. I don't know if that's worse or better than being sad that their reporter got banned for refusing to listen to White House rules.

So they're attention whores, them and every other mainstream media outlet. Time for them to grow a pair.

 

[FAST6191]

I saw the video, I saw the discussions of the video, I looked into his past conduct, I looked into the nature of the event in question, I considered the nature of the press event in general.

From where I sit the press event is a nice perk, however given the recent rulings on similar matters for twitter and the rationales and arguments given I am not sure we would have the same interpretation. Still I would say denying someone individually access is no big deal under the law. Denying some press member access to a council meeting would be a very different matter -- one is a fundamental part of government, the other (the press event) I would consider a perk.
Furthermore if they wanted to spare some aggravation then "we don't like this guy, maybe send another" would have done absolutely fine.

Video wise. That would be a physical block from what I saw. Video wise someone maybe needs to learn how video works better or move to the modern world where such things at not really an issue but doctored such that it tells a different narrative... not so much. Nothing the law would need to get involved with or any normal person would want to be traumatised by but at same time not conduct I would expect in such a situation, and could see a revocation of privileges as a result.

Conduct in the past. Muckraker is a proud tradition in journalism, as is asking hard hitting questions. He seems to be aiming for but doing poorly at both. Being shit at your job is not grounds for dismissal but it makes it harder.

 

[xskibbles]

I’m guessing many people didn’t actually read what’s going on and why . On topic, guessing Fox is supporting CNN due to not wanting the same outcome once the next president is elected (assuming trump isn’t voted in again )

 

[the_randomizer]

I’m guessing many people didn’t actually read what’s going on and why . On topic, guessing Fox is supporting CNN due to not wanting the same outcome once the next president is elected (assuming trump isn’t voted in again )

Talk about stooping low.

 

[CallmeBerto]

His access should be reinstated or at the very least not be lost over something this dumb.

 

[the_randomizer]

His access should be reinstated or at the very least not be lost over something this dumb.

Maybe if CNN weren't such whiny litigious jackasses about it, it'd be reinstated.

 

[Kioku]

His access should be reinstated or at the very least not be lost over something this dumb.

Something.. Our country is turning into a massive meme.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Maybe if CNN weren't such whiny litigious jackasses about it, it'd be reinstated.

Ok, so I don't like Jim or CNN at all. They are full of shit. However, there are better reasons for taking away Jim's access. ( he is a hack)

 

[the_randomizer]

Ok, so I don't like Jim or CNN at all. They are full of shit. However, there are better reasons for taking away Jim's access. ( he is a hack)

Right, but the mainstream media is full of shit.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Something.. Our country is turning into a massive meme.

Too much of the me vs them mentality, which Trump just loves.

 

[the_randomizer]

Too much of the me vs them mentality, which Trump just loves.

The mainstream media aren't exactly innocent, either, they're full of it.

 

[Eddypikachu]

CNN actually has a good foot in court right now since the there is already precedent from a 1977 court decision that the White House must follow a specific process to deny press passes (which the white house didn't follow)
https://openjurist.org/569/f2d/124/sherrill-v-h-knight
"White House press facilities having been made publicly available ... the protection afforded news gathering under the first amendment... requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons."

 

[CallmeBerto]

CNN actually has a good foot in court right now since the there is already precedent from a 1997 court decision that the White House must follow a specific process to deny press passes (which the white house didn't follow)
https://openjurist.org/569/f2d/124/sherrill-v-h-knight
"White House press facilities having been made publicly available ... the protection afforded news gathering under the first amendment... requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons."

Interesting, I guess the question becomes then, was Jim's loss of access a compelling reason? My money is on no.

 

[Kioku]

The mainstream media aren't exactly innocent, either, they're full of it.

Yeah, but Trump fueled that fire like nobody's business.

 

[the_randomizer]

Yeah, but Trump fueled that fire like nobody's business.

Perhaps, *shrug* the entire media is one toxic pile of garbage.